New Elevation Tour - N.A.C.P.B.A. ???

[Bob101]

I read about this in before things and players money it all is and not working will it be with unknown runners too doing it. Trust not with them to have money from friend players to pay them.

 

[ShootingArts]

21-1

teasers :

"There are 211 known games of pool with actual written rules. The game we will play is one of these.

The secret is in the numbers"

They are going to play 21-1 straight pool. 21 ball rack plus the break ball; 211 or to be more accurate 21-1.

This will be played on seven, eight, and nine foot tables. After this they plan to play one pocket but again there will be a difference. The rack will be in the normal foot position but the two money pockets will be the head corners. I would tell you what they have planned for eight and ten ball but everyone needs a little suspense in their life.

Hu

PS This was just the wildest BS I could dream up on short notice to feed the rumor mill! I hope there is actually some substance to this tour. Most things sound positive but saying 22 million is no problem and starting by putting up a mickey mouse website is a little scary.

 

[JCIN]

First, if they actually pull it off, more power to 'them'.

With that said, after reading their web site, it seems they really tend to stress professionalism, and a 'new face' for pool. Yet their site really isn't very professional at all.???Too many unanswered questions to feel very good about it. If this is an example of their sales technique to the public, they don't have much of a chance of succeeding.

They mention pro tour cards- what cards?? Anybody know of any besides the IPT? They mention you have to be a top member of one of their leagues- what leagues? And to qualify for a pro event you have to be in a bar league if your an amateur? Many top players that no longer play will have nothing to do with an amateur league, and I don't blame them. They are about as unprofessional as it gets.

And referees are only picked from league players?? What is the matter with the Nationaly Certified referees??

I guess it's wait and see time. But at least the IPT looked good up front.

The more you look the more funny things you find. Like those weird stock images on the side of some of the pages. What does a dude at a desk have to do with pro pool? All the cheesy flash and animated gifs. Just odd.

I hope this is just a first draft, maybe a brainstorming type thing that will be refined. Maybe they just threw this out there to get a response to some ideas. I know putting a site together isn't easy but if they are gonna front $66 Million (22 a year for 3 years) I hope they can do better than the current site. I mean which is harder ? Organizing pool players and getting the logistics in order for 22 tour stops or a website?

People I have talked to say they are dead serious and have the resources to back it up so we will see. I hope it works.

 

[JCIN]

I read about this in before things and players money it all is and not working will it be with unknown runners too doing it. Trust not with them to have money from friend players to pay them.

You have the most appropriate avatar on the forum.

 

[Tim5000]

The more you look the more funny things you find. Like those weird stock images on the side of some of the pages. What does a dude at a desk have to do with pro pool? All the cheesy flash and animated gifs. Just odd.

Their site is a cheap, generic template. These templates are available online for about $30 - $60 they have all the stock images, gifs, paragraph structure, etc.. You just fill in the blanks. Makes me quite suspicious.

 

[junior718]

drug testing is a great idea. every professional sport has it. why should some people have a advantage over others who dont use drugs. i hate playing bathroom champs.

 

[frankwhite]

I was thinking the same thing! I'm sure as hell that that won't go over at all!

Well, smoke n pack or whatver his name is dosent think that was a liable quote!!! LOL
He is from Europe, maybe he has not visited the states......

So w/ that bing said, whats up "DoleFace"??? Tony just called me, he talked to the other side....Call me tomorrow I will explain!
Frankie

 

[frankwhite]

These odds just went up at the Mirage concerning this tour:

odds of a single event ever happening 11-1
odds that Kevin Trudeau is behind this tour 3-1
odds that some moron will actually pay the $2500 before the first event 1-5
odds that Deno Andrews will submit an application for employment 1-3
odds that NAACP sues the tour for initial infringements 2-1

LOL Hilarious LOL

 

[frankwhite]

Let's just say that I hope those who have to take pain pills for their aches and pains can provide a prescription.

Beer isn't a problem because it doesn't stay in your system after 24 hours.

Cannabis consumption could present a problem for those who indulge because it can remain in one's system for up to 30 days.

JAM

LOL Thank you for your input, even though some thought it was a dumb question.....LOL
Frankie

 

[frankwhite]

The new tour is for real and we are meeting with them soon. AZB will put up whatever info they allow about their efforts next week. Kevin Trudeau is not involved in any way. Be patient and stay tuned to the AZB front page. We have had initial contacts and can tell you that formal announcements will come soon and that the men with whom we have spoken are sincere and very serious about growing the game.

That is great to hear, thank you Jerry................
Frankie

 

[smokeandapancak]

Well, smoke n pack or whatver his name is dosent think that was a liable quote!!! LOL
He is from Europe, maybe he has not visited the states......

So w/ that bing said, whats up "DoleFace"??? Tony just called me, he talked to the other side....Call me tomorrow I will explain!
Frankie

Not real sure what liable quote is ..but hey whatever.......

If pool is ever gonna make it, and making it is the goal of this tour, then it has to been somewhat clean.. at least play the game by trying to look clean.

Nobody wants to watch an post match interview with some tweaker all G'ed up... pathetic....

Oh yeah ... last but not least.....not from Europe, guy..... I was born and raised in Macon Ga....

 

[JAM]

LOL Thank you for your input, even though some thought it was a dumb question.....LOL
Frankie

It is a legitimate inquiry, Frankie. There is no secret that prescription drugs is now an epidemic in the United States.

The problem is not just contained to the pool world. It is a societal norm to pop a pill for any little ache and pain today. Some doctors prescribe these addictive narcotics, and some patients have a tendency to abuse them, unfortunately.

Marijuana, though illegal in the United States, stays in one's system for up to 30 days. However, if a pro player is intent on pursuing his/her career and is a pot smoker, I would like to think they would not have a problem with abstaining, but it ain't no secret that some do not deem marijuana as the root to all evils that others do.

Though cocaine used to be the epidemic drug, I think it has been replaced with prescription drug abuse today.

On a good note, most, quote/unquote, "sports" figures today are drug-tested for steroids. I don't think we will ever have that problem with pool players.

Oh, Frankie, the picture is in the mail. You should receive it today, I hope!

JAM

 

[JAM]

Your right, billiards has always needed ONE Controlling Authority. All sports at the professional level need ONE Controlling Authority to prosper as long as that ONE in power will do what is good for the sport and not what is good for themselves first. It has to be a WIN WIN situation but the sport must be on the high end of the deal for it to prosper and grow!! This is very interesting and I think we all hope this is legit!! We'll see!

I definitely agree with you, JGPool. However, you may remember when the IPT came to the fore, the WPA requested that the IPT sanction the IPT events with the WPA, to which the IPT refused.

If this new tour is the ONE controlling authority, will they sanction with the WPA? Will the WPBA allow their members to compete on the new tour? Will the new tour allow its members to compete on the WPBA? These are the questions that I had in my mind.

Of course, it is early in the tour development now, but these are questions which will have to be addressed at some point.

I heard recently that the UPA is going overseas to the ASEAN countries for future events. If this is true, then this new tour is coming at the right time for American male pros.

I read recently that the WPA expelled the Pan-American Pool Federation, and there was no reason given, other than the WPA did not like the way the Pan-American Pool Federation conducted itself, or words to that effect. It was a stock bureaucratic mumbo jumbo explanation, with no meat to it.

Is the WPA, in fact, the controlling authority of pool in the world?

JAM

 

[frankwhite]

It is a legitimate inquiry, Frankie. There is no secret that prescription drugs is now an epidemic in the United States.

The problem is not just contained to the pool world. It is a societal norm to pop a pill for any little ache and pain today. Some doctors prescribe these addictive narcotics, and some patients have a tendency to abuse them, unfortunately.

Marijuana, though illegal in the United States, stays in one's system for up to 30 days. However, if a pro player is intent on pursuing his/her career and is a pot smoker, I would like to think they would not have a problem with abstaining, but it ain't no secret that some do not deem marijuana as the root to all evils that others do.

Though cocaine used to be the epidemic drug, I think it has been replaced with prescription drug abuse today.

On a good note, most, quote/unquote, "sports" figures today are drug-tested for steroids. I don't think we will ever have that problem with pool players.

Oh, Frankie, the picture is in the mail. You should receive it today, I hope!

JAM

Your the best, Oh! Have I said that before.......LOL

 

[frankwhite]

Not real sure what liable quote is ..but hey whatever.......

If pool is ever gonna make it, and making it is the goal of this tour, then it has to been somewhat clean.. at least play the game by trying to look clean.

Nobody wants to watch an post match interview with some tweaker all G'ed up... pathetic....

Oh yeah ... last but not least.....not from Europe, guy..... I was born and raised in Macon Ga....

Well, really wasnt sure what you ment, "GUY". I happen to agree w/ you "GUY". I was one of those players w/ the pill problem, "GUY". This is why I asked what I asked, "GUY". And I had asked it to a very special friend of mine(Jam), "GUY".......Thanks for your input "GUY"...
Frankie

 

[smokeandapancak]

No problem ,guy..........

 

[randyg]

When I read, I check on ways they plan to pull a profit.
They list venues with 2500 seats for fans what area other than Asian countries would pull that many fans to watch pro's play? Can anyone give us a number of the amount of spectators at the WPC? Even the IPT with one hell of an arena didnt fill seating. They show multiple cameras for an interactive arena, this could possibly cut into people showing up at venues if they can watch from home and no longer need to pay for the hotel/travel fees for the price of an online ticket. I would be first in line to buy dvd's that acted as an interactive dvd on each match. Imagine the ability to switch camera angles while watching to see the shot from the view you want. I would pay for the online ticket to be able to watch the entire event from here in Japan and switch between matches or tables at will online. If the events are all held in the US I can't see them pulling a profit in 3 years. If they venue around the world the players can still meet the 41% tournament entry requirement and have the value of the Asian fanfare incomes. Community service question, can you get a tax break for performing community service based on the number of hours? One player 80 hours xtimesx number of players...? Drug free organization I am for because it is what we would need to meet the Olympic requirements. The no gambling...Can Shane still have his Action Challenges? This would be my deal breaker..No Shane no Deal!

Hi Rob...randyg

 

[jgpool]

Correct thinking

I definitely agree with you, JGPool. However, you may remember when the IPT came to the fore, the WPA requested that the IPT sanction the IPT events with the WPA, to which the IPT refused.

If this new tour is the ONE controlling authority, will they sanction with the WPA? Will the WPBA allow their members to compete on the new tour? Will the new tour allow its members to compete on the WPBA? These are the questions that I had in my mind.

Of course, it is early in the tour development now, but these are questions which will have to be addressed at some point.

I heard recently that the UPA is going overseas to the ASEAN countries for future events. If this is true, then this new tour is coming at the right time for American male pros.

I read recently that the WPA expelled the Pan-American Pool Federation, and there was no reason given, other than the WPA did not like the way the Pan-American Pool Federation conducted itself, or words to that effect. It was a stock bureaucratic mumbo jumbo explanation, with no meat to it.

Is the WPA, in fact, the controlling authority of pool in the world?

JAM

Yes, JAM and Shootingarts. If this new tour wants to eliminate the previous majors, then there is a hurdle to overcome. I hope that is not their intentions. But on the other hand if they are going to provide the best product for the pool world, what's the answer. Hopefully we will find out that they have pool as the priority in this endeavor. We can only keep our fingers crossed.

 

[ScottW]

Despite assurances by other posters, this smacks of IPT 2.0 to me. Guess we'll see.

 

[lodini]

Yes, JAM and Shootingarts. If this new tour wants to eliminate the previous majors, then there is a hurdle to overcome. I hope that is not their intentions. But on the other hand if they are going to provide the best product for the pool world, what's the answer. Hopefully we will find out that they have pool as the priority in this endeavor. We can only keep our fingers crossed.

Makes me wonder how the regional events would be handled too... like right now, you can enter a regional event and almost be assured to be alongside a pro or two. If they can't play in those, do you guys think that would be good or bad for the regional tours?