New Hollywood pool movie trailer released (actually really good)

Yes, I did read your other posts on this thread. I have read every post on this thread. I thought you would get the gist of my point with what I wrote. I apologize if it was too vague for you, I will be more specific. There was drug use in TCoM. Vincent was shown drinking shots and cheating people out of money. There is no 'clean' pool movie that is a drama. It is as simple as that. It is the lack of 'clean' that largely makes it dramatic.

I understand you talked to one person who formed an opinion of what a pool hall is based on tv and movies and it is a negative opinion. One person is a pretty small sample size with which to make a generalization. If this person actually holds an office I would actively work to get them out of it. Anyone who thinks that they are knowledgable about something in real life because they saw something about it in a movie or tv show should not be making any decisions affecting the public. Did you ask him if he also believes that every bar has a fat guy named Norm and a postal carrier hanging out 12 hours a day? There are morons everywhere and you are not going to change that by having movies only show pool in a positive, wholesome environment. This is a movie. It is make believe. There are plenty of people who like dramas and like gritty material so why be negative about something that is entertainment for adults?

To the gentleman who thought I was arguing the trailer wasn't full of cliches, that wasn't what I was trying to say. It obviously is full of them as basically every pool movie is. Same thing with poker movies. It always comes down to a big dramatic showdown where a seemingly unbeatable hand gets beat by a straight/royal flush.
My experience was not unique, if you have tried to open a pool room in most any city you run up against the same thing, preconceived ideas.

Some cities have even gone to efforts to make it all but imposable for a pool room to open. Setting unrealistic parking requirements for billiard rooms and mentioning them specifically while something like a restaurant has different requirements. I even had a landlord tell me his insurance company would not cover a pool room in the building after I had already given a large deposit and began getting the licensing. This goes way beyond me running into someone who told me to my face it is the perception they all have and it comes from the movies and TV. That is just a fact.

I rented a building once and everything was going smooth till the agent called me to tell me the deal was off. The owner who was very religious would not have a pool room in his building. I have been around pool for some 45 years and have owned a few pools rooms and bars. This perception is real and where it comes from is real.
I am not wanting to belabor the point or debate but I just wanted to say this for the record. I am not just some naysayer.

I have suffered from it as have you without realizing it. How many people on her complain about not having a place to play or live in a town with zero pool rooms. There are a lot of reasons there are such few pool rooms and it is not always a lack of business. Towns don't want them and they make no bones about letting you know. You know how many years it was before anyone under 21 could go in a pool room in many states? I am not talking about a bar just pool. Mean time an 8 year old could go bowling with his family and have mixed drinks served right at the lane by a waitress. And this will be my last comment on the subject but thanks for listening. As you can tell this is a sore spot for me.
 
JoeyA, you get my vote!

Macguy,
Do you have any idea what movie goers want to see? Have you paid any attention to what's on television today.

While I love Ralf Souquet to death and he is one of my favorite players, I don't think anyone's going to a movie to pay ten bucks to watch him run ball after ball and be the perfect gentleman.

Me, I can't wait for this season's True Blood. This is the kind of sick stuff that people like these days. I liked the comic books when I was a kid, you know the fantasy stuff, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern etc....

This is the MOVIE BUSINESS we're talking about, not some namby pamby PTA meeting where we can BS ourselves about what a nice society our children are growing up in and how we are making our mark as to what kind of world our children are going to grow up in. It's FANTASY, with all of the excitement of the actual pool world that we already live in. Want to make a positive statement about pool, go make a documentary. Want to make a few million dollars? Go make an exciting fantasy filled pool movie like "Ride the 9".

People make movies to make money, not to shape the world.
JoeyA

Not having a pool hall is not going to make kids grow up being good! And movies have to appeal to the general public, not just bad people. Any action packed movie that makes money has killing, drinking, fighting, and a list of other things in it to be successful! The truth hurts a lot of good and bad people.....
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
I was sure I would hate whatever it is before I watched it but the quality and sound of the trailer is better than anything I have seen since COM. Story could go either way of course but so far it doesn't suck.

Personally the focus on trick shots in a supposed gambling environment is goofy to me but I know what they are going for so it doesnt put me off too much. They did it much better than most others I have seen.

The biggest technical error is obvious. I saw the main character wearing a tie and didn't see any sweat pants anywhere in the trailer. We all know that is completely impossible in the real world.

As for the drug use, the coke is dramatic and showing a guy eating Adderall like Skittles just doesn't have the same cinematic effect. I don't know any real pool players that can afford a coke habit anyway. Besides coke is so 90's. Just movie stuff, no big deal.

I'll watch it.
 
The Tom Cruise character of Vincent was not whacked out on drugs.


Nope , but Julian was out of his skull on powder !

And Fast Eddie was a purveyor of illicit alcohol (remember the labels ?)

"Family Billiard Centers" are a very nice idea at 7:30pm . Most turn into poolhalls around 11:30pm* . . . .

Ah , there's TROUBLE - with a capital T that rhymes with P and stands for pool !
I believe "The Music Man" did more to destroy pools image than all the pool movies ever made !



*note to Robroy - close Nehemiah's at 11pm so this doesn't happen !:cool:
 
Ah , there's TROUBLE - with a capital T that rhymes with P and stands for pool !
I believe "The Music Man" did more to destroy pools image than all the pool movies ever made !

This is about the most ridiculous remark I have heard recently.

Dave Nelson
 
You're posting right now, and clearly you're not having much of an 'impact'. Well, unless you consider inappropriately bringing 'circle jerks' into the conversation as some sort of valid contribution.

Seriously, grow up man. The only person who said this movie would be huge for pool is you. And you've said it sarcastically twice now.

Oops, I forgot I'm not supposed to mess with the clique. I was responding to your statement that "This is the first quality pool production in nearly a decade". As I'm sure you know, with a decent camera and a lick of talent, you can make anything look like a "quality production".

Seriously, no one but you thinks that anything I say on these boards are meant to be even remotely impactful or useful. And if you don't think that bringing up circle jerks is appropriate for this thread, clearly you haven't read this thread.

Edit: Really guy, you actually gave me a red rep for bringing up circle jerks? Well I'm gonna have to go and cry in mom's basement. Oh wait, unlike some people, I don't actually live in mom's basement.
 
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Edit: Really guy, you actually gave me a red rep for bringing up circle jerks? Well I'm gonna have to go and cry in mom's basement. Oh wait, unlike some people, I don't actually live in mom's basement.

No, I gave you red rep for intentionally trying to stir up trouble out of obvious amusement.

I have yet to read a single respectful post from you. After all, you're the guy who's consciously trying to earn a reputation by blogging with the intent of disrespecting and discrediting some of the industries most notable people. To make matters worse, you do it anonymously out of cowardice.

Plain and simple. You think it's funny. I think it's pathetic.

My verdict? Red rep.

PS. I look forward to reading your little blog in the upcoming weeks to see what petty efforts you conceive to discredit me now.
 
The trailer looks promising production value seems to be good. The one guy needs to wipe his nose when he is beating up the main character. Replace the Mustang with an RX-8 for the newer generation an we set...:thumbup:
 
All Of Them

I've seen them all, including a few foreign pool movies.

This looks interesting. Small target audience, but I think it's on target.
 
Hey it looks pretty cool to me. The main character can even legally jump a full ball.
 
This movie looks pretty interesting. Wasn't able to get any information about a potential release date though. Certainly something I'd be interested into watching, as I've not seen very many moves portray the life of a real hustler. That being, someone who does it as a profession, their being able to eat and have shelter depending on their ability to play, and con.
 
Have you ever hung out with any of the worlds top players? Or know much about their backgrounds? A lot of these guys have been in jail for some pretty shady stuff. On top of that, it's pretty much customary to get out of control at the bar, not just after an event, but each night during it.

I'm not talking about one bad apple here either. I could riddle off ten names of the best players in the world within a single minute that clearly do not match how you clearly envision 'professional pool'.

It would require a completely fictitious and unrealistic representation of pool to make a movie without anything shady in it. :p



You're posting right now, and clearly you're not having much of an 'impact'. Well, unless you consider inappropriately bringing 'circle jerks' into the conversation as some sort of valid contribution.

Seriously, grow up man. The only person who said this movie would be huge for pool is you. And you've said it sarcastically twice now.


Ralf is pretty gangsta. I heard Wu Chia Ching was involved with the Taiwanese mob and threatend by his own government so he fled to Singapore to start a new.

I made this up.....I think......
 
PS. I look forward to reading your little blog in the upcoming weeks to see what petty efforts you conceive to discredit me now.

Please. If you actually read my blog, you'd see that for years I've had nothing but nice things to say about one of your friends. As for writing about you, once you do something of note, I'll be happy to give you some virtual ink, be it positive or negative. Take off hoser.
 
I smirked at the cliche in-game trick shots and the mob beating in the alley, but that is what the general public expects and wants in a pool movie. In keeping with Hollywood today, the seedier stuff will be laid on extra thick. I'll see it regardless. I'll feel spite for it when people react negatively to learning that I play pool, but the DVD will remain in my media case alongside PHJ, BB, and all the others that I'll only ever watch with a pool buddy or by myself.

BTW, Stickmen is from New Zealand.
 
It looks like a great movie and I will look forward to watching/buying it when it comes out.

Look at it this way. Every movie that comes out these days, whether it be a comedy, drama, mystery etc, has people getting their heads blown off, drugs, gratuitous sex in it. Its not going to go away. They make movies that people are going to watch.

Not trying to be a dick Mac, but if Disney Pictures ever decides to make a
Pool movie starring the Jungle Book characters versus Winnie the Pooh characters called the Pooh Tournament, it will be good for the kids but this is what sells these days.

I can't wait to see this one. People are not going to look down on pool just because it includes all the fun things in life.
Seriously, if anything from what I've seen in the trailer, people will be going to the pool halls to get try and live vicariously thru this movie just like they did after the COM.

Doing rails off of the rails. Boinking girls on the rails. I'm in.

Gotta say Disney did make a great movie called " The Greatest Game ever Played ". It was a movie about the youngest amateur golfer to win a U.S. Open. If pool had movies like that it might get more positive results. Every movie I have ever seen with a pool theme is the same. Hopefully you are wrong
 
When I typed, All the fun things in life and Doing rails off of rails and boinking girls on the rails, I was being facetious.

When I feel like watching a comedy, thats what I watch, same with an action movie.
I think most of us have pretty regimented lives, maybe some more exciting than others (thinking Fatboy here). When we want to escape the mediocrity of our everyday existence, we throw in a movie and probably most of us are Walter Mitty's
for the duration of the movie. Its make believe.

Its a target audience and I doubt any Baptist ministers are going to be playing the movie for the congregation.

Didn't someone mention that TCOM did more for pool at the time it came out?
Kids are exposed to drugs and sex more so than ever before. They are better educated and are able to make good choices.

I think the trick shots and fancy shooting is what the young kids will think is cool and they might show up in a pool hall and try and emulate the players that way more than anything else.

I agree, if Disney or DreamWorks did a movie about pool in the same way as the golf movie, it would probably turn out great.
Take a look at the theme of Pool Hall Junkies. A young pool prodigy who dreams of the Pro Pool Circuit. His dream is squashed when his backer throws the letter from Toupee Jay inviting him to the Pros, in the garbage can. If he had given the letter to Johnny, it might have been the shortest pool movie ever made.

Terry= Who still wears rose colored glasses once in a while. Also believes there should be more shoot em up Westerns made too.
 
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Replace the Mustang with an RX-8 for the newer generation an we set...:thumbup:

How are you going to stuff somebody in the trunk of an RX8? Besides, vintage 'Stangs are classier...
For that matter, new 'stangs are classier. ;)
 
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