People make movies to make money, not to shape the world.[/B]
JoeyA
I like it.. Well said, I have to agree.
People make movies to make money, not to shape the world.[/B]
JoeyA
My experience was not unique, if you have tried to open a pool room in most any city you run up against the same thing, preconceived ideas.Yes, I did read your other posts on this thread. I have read every post on this thread. I thought you would get the gist of my point with what I wrote. I apologize if it was too vague for you, I will be more specific. There was drug use in TCoM. Vincent was shown drinking shots and cheating people out of money. There is no 'clean' pool movie that is a drama. It is as simple as that. It is the lack of 'clean' that largely makes it dramatic.
I understand you talked to one person who formed an opinion of what a pool hall is based on tv and movies and it is a negative opinion. One person is a pretty small sample size with which to make a generalization. If this person actually holds an office I would actively work to get them out of it. Anyone who thinks that they are knowledgable about something in real life because they saw something about it in a movie or tv show should not be making any decisions affecting the public. Did you ask him if he also believes that every bar has a fat guy named Norm and a postal carrier hanging out 12 hours a day? There are morons everywhere and you are not going to change that by having movies only show pool in a positive, wholesome environment. This is a movie. It is make believe. There are plenty of people who like dramas and like gritty material so why be negative about something that is entertainment for adults?
To the gentleman who thought I was arguing the trailer wasn't full of cliches, that wasn't what I was trying to say. It obviously is full of them as basically every pool movie is. Same thing with poker movies. It always comes down to a big dramatic showdown where a seemingly unbeatable hand gets beat by a straight/royal flush.
Macguy,
Do you have any idea what movie goers want to see? Have you paid any attention to what's on television today.
While I love Ralf Souquet to death and he is one of my favorite players, I don't think anyone's going to a movie to pay ten bucks to watch him run ball after ball and be the perfect gentleman.
Me, I can't wait for this season's True Blood. This is the kind of sick stuff that people like these days. I liked the comic books when I was a kid, you know the fantasy stuff, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern etc....
This is the MOVIE BUSINESS we're talking about, not some namby pamby PTA meeting where we can BS ourselves about what a nice society our children are growing up in and how we are making our mark as to what kind of world our children are going to grow up in. It's FANTASY, with all of the excitement of the actual pool world that we already live in. Want to make a positive statement about pool, go make a documentary. Want to make a few million dollars? Go make an exciting fantasy filled pool movie like "Ride the 9".
People make movies to make money, not to shape the world.
JoeyA
The Tom Cruise character of Vincent was not whacked out on drugs.
You're posting right now, and clearly you're not having much of an 'impact'. Well, unless you consider inappropriately bringing 'circle jerks' into the conversation as some sort of valid contribution.
Seriously, grow up man. The only person who said this movie would be huge for pool is you. And you've said it sarcastically twice now.
Edit: Really guy, you actually gave me a red rep for bringing up circle jerks? Well I'm gonna have to go and cry in mom's basement. Oh wait, unlike some people, I don't actually live in mom's basement.
Have you ever hung out with any of the worlds top players? Or know much about their backgrounds? A lot of these guys have been in jail for some pretty shady stuff. On top of that, it's pretty much customary to get out of control at the bar, not just after an event, but each night during it.
I'm not talking about one bad apple here either. I could riddle off ten names of the best players in the world within a single minute that clearly do not match how you clearly envision 'professional pool'.
It would require a completely fictitious and unrealistic representation of pool to make a movie without anything shady in it.
You're posting right now, and clearly you're not having much of an 'impact'. Well, unless you consider inappropriately bringing 'circle jerks' into the conversation as some sort of valid contribution.
Seriously, grow up man. The only person who said this movie would be huge for pool is you. And you've said it sarcastically twice now.
PS. I look forward to reading your little blog in the upcoming weeks to see what petty efforts you conceive to discredit me now.
It looks like a great movie and I will look forward to watching/buying it when it comes out.
Look at it this way. Every movie that comes out these days, whether it be a comedy, drama, mystery etc, has people getting their heads blown off, drugs, gratuitous sex in it. Its not going to go away. They make movies that people are going to watch.
Not trying to be a dick Mac, but if Disney Pictures ever decides to make a
Pool movie starring the Jungle Book characters versus Winnie the Pooh characters called the Pooh Tournament, it will be good for the kids but this is what sells these days.
I can't wait to see this one. People are not going to look down on pool just because it includes all the fun things in life.
Seriously, if anything from what I've seen in the trailer, people will be going to the pool halls to get try and live vicariously thru this movie just like they did after the COM.
Doing rails off of the rails. Boinking girls on the rails. I'm in.
Replace the Mustang with an RX-8 for the newer generation an we set...:thumbup: