could this technology, incorporated into a cue's joint design, decrease deflection?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WvdJn9e60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WvdJn9e60
New joint design... Decreased deflection?
- Thread starter PhilosopherKing
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All I got from the link was a Gillette Razor Commercial ?
Definitely not. Neither a joint design nor a razor can affect squirt (AKA "cue ball deflection") ... unless the "joint" is from Colorado. :grin:
The only thing known to reduce squirt is reduced "end mass."
Regards,
Dave
A wiggling joint might well decrease deflection by getting the tip (end mass) away from the CB quicker.
But I'd venture to say that it would wreck havoc with your aim
I see what you're saying... I suppose it could work if the cue was traveling on its own, or if the sensitivity was just right.
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A wiggling joint might well decrease deflection by getting the tip (end mass) away from the CB quicker.
But I'd venture to say that it would wreck havoc with your aim
What if the "wiggle" took place in the ferrule or some point ahead of the bridge-hand?
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Oh yea.............. wow.... you could shoot around corners...... if there were corners....
Why not just use a rubber stick...................????
great idea
Ki9m
I've thought about rubber, too.
1. So, does the following suggest that when you apply a small amount of spin, that the cue ball does move away from the tip faster than when you apply extreme spin?
2. AND does that mean that there is less cue ball deflection with extreme spin than with a small amount of spin?? (exception double-hits and excepting swerve).
"Another potential issue with carbon-fiber shafts is that they don't flex as much during and after a hit, so when you apply extreme spin (side, bottom or top), where the CB doesn't move away from the tip as quickly, there is a chance for a double-hit (which won't be directly noticeable, but the CB will appear to deflect or squirt more than expected)"
JoeyA
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Meucci Power Piston
See Meucci Power Piston ferrule design in "Ask the Cuemaker" forum. Picture in post #2.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=63978&highlight=power+piston
See Meucci Power Piston ferrule design in "Ask the Cuemaker" forum. Picture in post #2.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=63978&highlight=power+piston
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You actually do get less deflection when you use more than max English.
You get a decent amount of squirt/deflection using 1 tip of English, even more with 2 tips (which is usually max English), and you get the least deflection using more than max (you called it extreme spin) English.
Also note that if you're using extreme spin, you will swerve off the opposite direction you hit the CB in (right English sends the CB left, blahblahblah) - but at slower speeds you will swerve back in the original direction. So, at a slow speed you'll squirt off line, then swerve back on.
-Richard
Well said :thumbup:
And sometimes a little "end mass" is nice, if you know what I mean. :yeah:
A wiggling joint might well decrease deflection by getting the tip (end mass) away from the CB quicker.
But I'd venture to say that it would wreck havoc with your aim
if you use an open bridge, and the joint's movement is limited to side-to-side, does it still have to "wreck havoc" with aim?
I do not see so much as 1 little reason why you would want a movable joint.
post #4 in this thread.
So you can smoke it anywhere ?
You'd want the opposite.
You want a solid joint so the front end can deflect more off the cueball.
Straightest shooting cues I've shot with have stiff forearm.
Yes, the CB moves away from the tip faster with no spin (or a small amount of spin) than it does with an extreme english shot. That's because with larger tip offsets from center, more cue energy goes into spinning the CB, and less goes into pushing the CB forward (as compared to a shot with less tip offset).
No. Squirt does not depend on shot speed. For more info, see the squirt speed effects resource page. Now, "excepting swerve" really doesn't apply at a pool table because the cue almost always has slight elevation, which causes swerve. Swerve cancels some of the squirt, create less net cue ball deflection. And with more spin and less speed, the swerve will happen sooner and will be greater; and with enough cue elevation, the swerve effect will be greater than the squirt effect, creating negative net CB deflection. For more info and demonstrations, see the squerve resource page.
Regards,
Dave
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Got it all, I think. :smile: Thanks.
I'll try to say it another way, just to be sure for myself and maybe for others who might want to understand this better.
Often when you hit the cue ball faster/harder/with more speed, it just looks like there is more squirt than when you hit the cue ball at a slower speed.
So the actual amount of squirt is not reduced when the cue ball is traveling at a slower speed but the swerve curves the cue ball in the opposite direction of the squirt, thereby making it appear that there is less squirt because the cue ball attempts to swerve earlier rather than later, when it slows down.
JoeyA
Bingo.
Also, with slower shots, especially follow shots, the swerve can happen practically immediately (see squirt follow/draw effects); so in these cases, the amount of squirt seems less, but it is not. This has been proven with horizontal-cue tests, where swerve is not a factor and squirt is the same at all speeds (see the articles on the squirt speed effects page if you want to see the proof).
Catch you later,
Dave