New Varney with blk G10 Radial

class act said:
Hey man, nice work! Be careful though... Even a scrub like me can tell that the pin in this cue is NOT a "Radial" pin. You have a ball-nose pin, and you should be VERY careful when stating anything otherwise. Especially when posting on a public forum. You would not be the first (or the last I'm sure :rolleyes: ) to get sued over this. "Radial" is a trademarked name.

BTW did you use a permanent marker, or aniline dye?:D ?!
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that sure as hell looks like a radial. ;)
 
class act said:
Looks can be deceiving to the uninformed.
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Paul Costain has introduced the G10 Black Radial Pin so what makes you think that this one is not? Is Atlas being fooled?

Just wondering.......

Chris
 
Poulos Cues said:
Paul Costain has introduced the G10 Black Radial Pin so what makes you think that this one is not? Is Atlas being fooled?

Just wondering.......

Chris
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Maybe it's made of nylon.
 
My mother always told me that if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. So with that in mind, here are my comments on this cue:

















-Brian
 
pharaoh68 said:
My mother always told me that if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. So with that in mind, here are my comments on this cue:
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Below is a breakdown of this thread, up until you posted; notice how everyone enjoyed the cue & offered positive thoughts on it until you slithered in to insidiously further your agenda of discredting Mr. Varney.

If I've used any words you don't recognize or if you need me to simplify things for you, just drop me a PM & I'll try to regurgitate it all in a form you will be able to understand; please allow a couple days as I may have to refresh my knowledge of the cadence of "Sesame Street" but, you know, sometimes you have to make special considerations for special people.

Response 1/RascalDoc: Positive
Response 2/Irish634: Positive
Response 3/pooltableproCP: Positive
Response 4/JimS: Positive
Response 5/Varney Cues: Grateful
Response 6/Realizm: Positive
Response 7/Burtus: Positive
Response 8/class act: Positive/Informative
Response 9/Varney Cues: Informative
Response 10/MGMAURER: Positive
Response 11/Craig Fales: Informative
Response 12/Varney Cues: Informative
Response 13/No Illusions: Positive
Response 14/poolplayer2093: Positive
Response 15/Mystick Cue Fan: Informative
Response 16/class act: Informative
Response 17/Poulos Cues: Informative
Response 18/Joey In Cali: Informative
Response 19/pharaoh68: Childish/Negative
 
MattRDavis said:
Below is a breakdown of this thread, up until you posted; notice how everyone enjoyed the cue & offered positive thoughts on it until you slithered in to insidiously further your agenda of discredting Mr. Varney.

If I've used any words you don't recognize or if you need me to simplify things for you, just drop me a PM & I'll try to regurgitate it all in a form you will be able to understand; please allow a couple days as I may have to refresh my knowledge of the cadence of "Sesame Street" but, you know, sometimes you have to make special considerations for special people.

Response 1/RascalDoc: Positive
Response 2/Irish634: Positive
Response 3/pooltableproCP: Positive
Response 4/JimS: Positive
Response 5/Varney Cues: Grateful
Response 6/Realizm: Positive
Response 7/Burtus: Positive
Response 8/class act: Positive/Informative
Response 9/Varney Cues: Informative
Response 10/MGMAURER: Positive
Response 11/Craig Fales: Informative
Response 12/Varney Cues: Informative
Response 13/No Illusions: Positive
Response 14/poolplayer2093: Positive
Response 15/Mystick Cue Fan: Informative
Response 16/class act: Informative
Response 17/Poulos Cues: Informative
Response 18/Joey In Cali: Informative
Response 19/pharaoh68: Childish/Negative
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Don't forget these!!!!!

Response 20/MattRDavis: A waste of his own time and energy because pharaoh68 doesn't give a sh*t what he thinks.
Response 21/pharaoh68: A statement saying that he doesn't give a sh*t what MattRDavis thinks.
 
pharaoh68 said:
Don't forget these!!!!!

Response 20/MattRDavis: A waste of his own time and energy because pharaoh68 doesn't give a sh*t what he thinks.
Response 21/pharaoh68: A statement saying that he doesn't give a sh*t what MattRDavis thinks.
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All I have is time & an overabundance of energy. What you fail to realize is this:

I'm not interested in your opinion in regards to my thoughts about you. What I'm interested in is how this forum sees you; I wouldn't want anyone to get the misguided impression that you are an intelligent & appreciated contributor to this forum.
 
Varney Cues said:
Thank you but that pin was in fact sold to me as a Radial pin. No marker or dye...its black G10 glass epoxy. :rolleyes:
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So, this is basically some kind of resin? Is this reinforced by any kind of fiber which extends over the length?

I am somewhat amazed - afaik, fibre resins withstand a lot of pull-force, but don't like to be compressed or stressed in any other direction. Are there already a lot of G10-joints which endured some years of real playing?

Anyway, optically this looks very nice, and I am a big fan of all "reddish" woods, so I like this cue's handle particularly. The wood colours fit well together.

Regards,

Detlev
 
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Detlev Rackow said:
I am somewhat amazed - afaik, fibre resins withstand a lot of pull-force, but don't like to be compressed or stressed in any other direction. Are there already a lot of G10-joints which endured some years of real playing?
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I know Cognoscenti has been using G-10 pins for years now & has had very few problems.

There are quite a few different variations on G-10 & I can't claim to know a whole lot about them, but according to rplastics.com, it is "a continuous glass woven fabric base impregnated with an epoxy resin binder".

Hope that answers some of your questions.
 
MattRDavis said:
I know Cognoscenti has been using G-10 pins for years now & has had very few problems.

There are quite a few different variations on G-10 & I can't claim to know a whole lot about them, but according to rplastics.com, it is "a continuous glass woven fabric base impregnated with an epoxy resin binder".

Hope that answers some of your questions.
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Another very, very fine cuemaker who has used the G-10 glass epoxy pin for a long time is Richard Chudy. When makers like Gold and Chudy use it, I figure it is good pin material.
 
MattRDavis said:
All I have is time & an overabundance of energy. What you fail to realize is this:

I'm not interested in your opinion in regards to my thoughts about you. What I'm interested in is how this forum sees you; I wouldn't want anyone to get the misguided impression that you are an intelligent & appreciated contributor to this forum.
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Matt-
Perhaps you're right. Maybe when I first started contributing to this site approximately two and a half years ago, I had some useful and insightful things to say. And I whole-heartedly agree that the majority of my posts today are useless, pointless, immature rants that are meant to do nothing other than piss people off and stir up trouble.

Perhpas this is because the quality of posting on this site has dropped off quite a bit in the past few years. The mods seem to do little to correct some of the primary flaws here, and most of the people posting here nowadays have chased off some truly respectable members and basically just watered the site down. And I can honeslty say that if YOU are the barometer of what is considered a good, "intelligent, & appreciated contributor" to this forum, then I like where I'm sitting just fine.

I can tell by your taste (or lack thereof) in cues that you have little sense and that your opinions are both misguided and inconsequential. There is one primary rule that I try to follow when visiting these online forums Matt. NEVER listen to an ass who has no clue what he's talking about (that would be you)... but do not hesitate to give him sh!t for it!!!

Take it easy bud!
-Brian
 
Great looking cue. I am a big fan of the no wrap cue. I profess my ignorance. But what are the advantages of the G10 radial pin?
 
> The material in these pins was originally used by NASA,and for a long while,Joe Gold was the only one getting it directly from them. The material is 1/10 the weight of a stainless version of the same pin,and for all practical purposes,every bit as strong. It's basically the strongest epoxy known to man,combined with pure glass cloth,much the same way phenolics are linen and epoxy. I've never seen one broken,but when they do break,it's almost always at the undercut portion right above the locating barrel. The only way you can break it is to TRY and break it. The color seems to have changed slightly. The ones shown here seem to be a LOT greener than what was originally available. The first ones I saw on Joe's cues almost looked like nylon or raw fiberglass. I think it kicks ass that Uni-Loc is finally making them out of G-10,and the black to boot. Tommy D.
 
Tommy-D said:
> The material in these pins was originally used by NASA,and for a long while,Joe Gold was the only one getting it directly from them. The material is 1/10 the weight of a stainless version of the same pin,and for all practical purposes,every bit as strong. It's basically the strongest epoxy known to man,combined with pure glass cloth,much the same way phenolics are linen and epoxy. I've never seen one broken,but when they do break,it's almost always at the undercut portion right above the locating barrel. The only way you can break it is to TRY and break it. The color seems to have changed slightly. The ones shown here seem to be a LOT greener than what was originally available. The first ones I saw on Joe's cues almost looked like nylon or raw fiberglass. I think it kicks ass that Uni-Loc is finally making them out of G-10,and the black to boot. Tommy D.
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I'd like to add that the G-10 pin flexes more like wood, giving uninterrupted feedback.
 
Tommy-D said:
> The material in these pins was originally used by NASA,and for a long while,Joe Gold was the only one getting it directly from them. The material is 1/10 the weight of a stainless version of the same pin,and for all practical purposes,every bit as strong. It's basically the strongest epoxy known to man,combined with pure glass cloth,much the same way phenolics are linen and epoxy. I've never seen one broken,but when they do break,it's almost always at the undercut portion right above the locating barrel. The only way you can break it is to TRY and break it. The color seems to have changed slightly. The ones shown here seem to be a LOT greener than what was originally available. The first ones I saw on Joe's cues almost looked like nylon or raw fiberglass. I think it kicks ass that Uni-Loc is finally making them out of G-10,and the black to boot. Tommy D.
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Sorry for moving off topic (the cue), but G10 (FR-4) is in the circuit boards of the computer you are using to read all of this too. Unless of course the circuit is made out of material from Rogers corp (ceramic). Nowadays, I think you can get them in almost any color. I agree that this stuff is very difficult to break. In my old job, we used it for PCBs but for engineering projects, we mostly used this in sheet form, but we also used it in block forms too.

Craig
 
So, what you are saying is that by YOUR barometer, the sites posts have gone down in quality and that is your excuse for making bad posts?

I can see all kinds of logic in that. If other people aren't posting what you want to read, then why not drag the whole thing down?

Mike

pharaoh68 said:
Matt-
Perhaps you're right. Maybe when I first started contributing to this site approximately two and a half years ago, I had some useful and insightful things to say. And I whole-heartedly agree that the majority of my posts today are useless, pointless, immature rants that are meant to do nothing other than piss people off and stir up trouble.

Perhpas this is because the quality of posting on this site has dropped off quite a bit in the past few years. The mods seem to do little to correct some of the primary flaws here, and most of the people posting here nowadays have chased off some truly respectable members and basically just watered the site down. And I can honeslty say that if YOU are the barometer of what is considered a good, "intelligent, & appreciated contributor" to this forum, then I like where I'm sitting just fine.

I can tell by your taste (or lack thereof) in cues that you have little sense and that your opinions are both misguided and inconsequential. There is one primary rule that I try to follow when visiting these online forums Matt. NEVER listen to an ass who has no clue what he's talking about (that would be you)... but do not hesitate to give him sh!t for it!!!

Take it easy bud!
-Brian
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AzHousePro said:
So, what you are saying is that by YOUR barometer, the sites posts have gone down in quality and that is your excuse for making bad posts?

I can see all kinds of logic in that. If other people aren't posting what you want to read, then why not drag the whole thing down?

Mike
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Mike-

Say what you will. Think what you will. I could truly care less about most of the people on this forum. There are several people that I do respect and several people that I consider friends. The rest, as far as I'm concerned, have shown themselves to be unintelligent and uninformed. You can disagree if you so desire. I'll lose little sleep over it either way.

One of the primary points that seems to continually escape people's attention here is that opinions are not always positive. But everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to share it. I have been over your forum rules several times and no where in there did I see anything that says you can only voice an opinion if you are singing someone or something's praise. So here, i shared my opinion and Matt objected. Now, between you, me, Matt, and a hole in the wall, I could give a damn what Matt thinks of me and my opinions. Much the same way I care less about his opinions. But we all have a right to express them. So I shared mine and Matt objected.

If you want to talk logic, try this on for size. Over the last year, many of your longtime posters/members have expressed disappointment with the way things are being run here and that the quality of the site is going down. Yet you and Dave have done very little (if anything) to address the issue. So I guess all I can say is: right back at you Mike: I can see all kinds of logic in that!!

-Brian
 
Varney Cues said:
Thats one of the biggest features.:)
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I believe another plus for the G-10 pin is that it allows cuemakers who use it to balance the cue without beginning with the extra weight in the middle of the cue. JMO.
 
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