nine ball ghost

I think a high B player is even money to do it depending on the equipment,when your the favorite and will put cash on beating the ghost then your an A player in my book.
 
even on a standard cut ninefooter....

even on a standard cut ninefooter if a player can beat the nineball ghost, then they are an A player. You don't even have a chance to beat the nineball ghost until you're an A-. Hell you're likely to lose 5-0 if you're not bordering on being an A.
 
Depends on the rules you play it too...if you allow combos and nine on the break is a win, then in a short race to 5...yes a B player can win. In a longer race, its possible, but alot tougher. If someone can beat it in an ahead set...then they are definitely an A player. JMO.

Southpaw
 
Barbox youd win, 8 footer even, 9 footer small chance, 9 footer tight pockets u get spanked. the ABC ranking system is very different just about each player you talk to................
 
Last weekend at Grady's I let Larry Nevel try it on the tight 9 foot table. He lost 5-1. The equipment makes all the difference.
 
easy-e said:
Last weekend at Grady's I let Larry Nevel try it on the tight 9 foot table. He lost 5-1. The equipment makes all the difference.

Yeah I was there. I saw it. You didn't have to say, "Give me my money biatch!"... Larry lost 9-1 to Mike Davis directly after you destroyed his confidence. Wait a second... We bought Mike Davis in the calcutta didn't we? That was the idea all along wasn't it? Way to go.
 
Depends on the break.

There are some B players that are excellent shot makers but can not navigate complicated racks / clusters very well...(which is the reason they are a B player)

A B player with a good spread and ball in hand....Yes
A B player with a average break and ball in hand...Maybe
A B player with a crappy break and ball in hand....Not a chance
 
Depends on your definition

I view an A player as a pro or touring road player that will match up even

There are probably 1,000 guys I know who can beat the ghost on all but very tight nine footers. I would consider these guys B players.

If you allow combos I know guys I consider to be C players that can win.

It really depends on your definition.
 
indymike said:
what is your opinon on race to five if the player is high b low a player do u think he will outrun it
The length of the race is not important, except maybe psychologically. If the player is better than 50% to win each game, he is favored at all lengths of set. If he is less than 50% to win each game, he is the underdog at all lengths of set. I suppose you could argue that the human player gets tired in long sets but he also might learn the table or how to break as the set wears on. With such arguments on both sides of the probability equation, it's best to ignore all of them unless they somehow move beyond opinion.

To answer your question, it depends on the table. On Table 4 where I play, it's not clear that an A player is favored to beat the ghost.
 
iba7467 said:
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If you allow combos I know guys I consider to be C players that can win.



There is no way any "C" player is ever beating the ghost. Not even on a bar box with buckets. They would not be a "C" player if they could beat it. I think a "C" player can beat somewhere between the 3-5 ball ghost, but no better.
 
mantis99 said:
iba7467 said:
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If you allow combos I know guys I consider to be C players that can win.



There is no way any "C" player is ever beating the ghost. Not even on a bar box with buckets. They would not be a "C" player if they could beat it. I think a "C" player can beat somewhere between the 3-5 ball ghost, but no better.
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy... Don't sell us "C" players short... I was able to beat the 6 ball ghost consistently when I played a lot. The 7 ball ghost was an entirely different story (the break was much harder).
 
By "6 ball ghost" do you mean breaking a rack of 9 balls and being spotted the 6 by the ghost, or you break and run a rack of 6 balls?
 
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