Its nice to know i'm not the only one who feels this way. It's just disgusting to see a great player turn his nose at what most of us would consider an extremely large bet and well worth our time and effort.
beav99_4life said:The other night I was sitting and chatting with a great player, whose name would be easily recognized by all if mentioned. He lives locally and came into the pool hall to catch up and BS. While talking, he mentioned if I knew of any action he might be able to get into. I told him about a guy that was a decent B player, but who liked to match up with better players for the right spot and would be willing to drop $2000 without thinking about it. The player kind of laughed a little and then had the nerve to say "I'm not looking for $2000, i'm looking for $20,000." Now we're not talking about him having to fly to the other side of the country, we're talking about a 20 minute drive across town to win $2000 OR more, and he shrugged it off as if it were nothing. If pool has come down to you either put up 5 digits or more, or its not even worth considering, then I guess all the complaining these same players are doing about tournament payouts arent justified. I immediately said something back to the effect that there are fathers out there busting their asses for $9/hr to feed their families who work for a month to see less than $2000. He once again shrugged it off, and he is not the only one. I have seen this attitude becoming more and more common among the pros and top road players. Its called GRINDING, and most people have to do it their whole lives. Why dont some of you players try it and learn some humility so you can be thankful for what you have. Sorry for the length, I just had to get this off my chest.
beav99_4life said:The other night I was sitting and chatting with a great player, whose name would be easily recognized by all if mentioned. He lives locally and came into the pool hall to catch up and BS. While talking, he mentioned if I knew of any action he might be able to get into. I told him about a guy that was a decent B player, but who liked to match up with better players for the right spot and would be willing to drop $2000 without thinking about it. The player kind of laughed a little and then had the nerve to say "I'm not looking for $2000, i'm looking for $20,000." Now we're not talking about him having to fly to the other side of the country, we're talking about a 20 minute drive across town to win $2000 OR more, and he shrugged it off as if it were nothing. If pool has come down to you either put up 5 digits or more, or its not even worth considering, then I guess all the complaining these same players are doing about tournament payouts arent justified. I immediately said something back to the effect that there are fathers out there busting their asses for $9/hr to feed their families who work for a month to see less than $2000. He once again shrugged it off, and he is not the only one. I have seen this attitude becoming more and more common among the pros and top road players. Its called GRINDING, and most people have to do it their whole lives. Why dont some of you players try it and learn some humility so you can be thankful for what you have. Sorry for the length, I just had to get this off my chest.
beav99_4life said:Sorry Gary, I would never post his name or even send it in a PM. The pool world is a small one and I would never knowingly do anything to put a negative conotation on anyone's name, even though I thoroughly disagreed with his attitude and statement. As far as him not being able to give the player weight, he could easily give this guy 10-7 to 10-6 and probably walk away with the jack. I just have alot of respect for players who are willing to grind it out for their living. I know Chris Bartrum pretty well and he is my definition of a grinder. He will jump on a $500 set and try to take it as serious as a $5000 set. He understands that its his profession and takes it seriously.
beav99_4life said:The other night I was sitting and chatting with a great player, whose name would be easily recognized by all if mentioned. He lives locally and came into the pool hall to catch up and BS. While talking, he mentioned if I knew of any action he might be able to get into. I told him about a guy that was a decent B player, but who liked to match up with better players for the right spot and would be willing to drop $2000 without thinking about it. The player kind of laughed a little and then had the nerve to say "I'm not looking for $2000, i'm looking for $20,000." Now we're not talking about him having to fly to the other side of the country, we're talking about a 20 minute drive across town to win $2000 OR more, and he shrugged it off as if it were nothing. If pool has come down to you either put up 5 digits or more, or its not even worth considering, then I guess all the complaining these same players are doing about tournament payouts arent justified. I immediately said something back to the effect that there are fathers out there busting their asses for $9/hr to feed their families who work for a month to see less than $2000. He once again shrugged it off, and he is not the only one. I have seen this attitude becoming more and more common among the pros and top road players. Its called GRINDING, and most people have to do it their whole lives. Why dont some of you players try it and learn some humility so you can be thankful for what you have. Sorry for the length, I just had to get this off my chest.
beav99_4life said:Sorry Gary, I would never post his name or even send it in a PM. The pool world is a small one and I would never knowingly do anything to put a negative conotation on anyone's name, even though I thoroughly disagreed with his attitude and statement. As far as him not being able to give the player weight, he could easily give this guy 10-7 to 10-6 and probably walk away with the jack. I just have alot of respect for players who are willing to grind it out for their living. I know Chris Bartrum pretty well and he is my definition of a grinder. He will jump on a $500 set and try to take it as serious as a $5000 set. He understands that its his profession and takes it seriously.
The Saw said:Steve,
You probably should have written the original post differently, in a manner where it wouldn't leave the the players identity open for conjecture. Everyone has read "He lives locally", "a 20 minute drive across town" and can easily see in the right hand corner of your post that you live in "Location: Columbus, Ohio". Since Cory moved to Fla. that only leaves 4 players "whose name would be easily recognized by all if mentioned" that you can possibly be talking about. As you know, I am very good friends with all of them. My whole point in posting is that most here can easily guess who three of the four are, the fourth would be recognizable but most wouldn't associate his name with Columbus. Peoples heads out there are spinning wondering who the player you are talking about is. Now, since you brought it to everyones attention, you may as well "out" whoever it is and save the other three from looking like greedy, pompous dirtbags! Piss one off and vindicate the three others.....
Kirk
dimes33 said:just a little side note as discussed yesterday,straight from larry "i have offered stevie the 8 on the big table,yea i would like to play stevie". there ya go for all who where interested.
im not sure how you would get that bet down if you will not be there but im sure you can get action if you could stop in long enough to post up and then go do what you needed to do until later.corvette1340 said:If he gives Stevie the 8 in Athens this weekend then I will bet at least $1000 even though I won't even be there to sweat all of the set.
dimes33 said:im not sure how you would get that bet down if you will not be there but im sure you can get action if you could stop in long enough to post up and then go do what you needed to do until later.
The Saw said:Steve,
You probably should have written the original post differently, in a manner where it wouldn't leave the the players identity open for conjecture. Everyone has read "He lives locally", "a 20 minute drive across town" and can easily see in the right hand corner of your post that you live in "Location: Columbus, Ohio". Since Cory moved to Fla. that only leaves 4 players "whose name would be easily recognized by all if mentioned" that you can possibly be talking about. As you know, I am very good friends with all of them. My whole point in posting is that most here can easily guess who three of the four are, the fourth would be recognizable but most wouldn't associate his name with Columbus. Peoples heads out there are spinning wondering who the player you are talking about is. Now, since you brought it to everyones attention, you may as well "out" whoever it is and save the other three from looking like greedy, pompous dirtbags! Piss one off and vindicate the three others.....
Kirk
Does it really matter who it was. I've heard players talk like this for years. I don't know why everyone acts so surprised. Just because someone plays well, it doesn't mean they are not full of B.S. The guy obviously had no intention of playing, and when he was told there was a possible 2K score in the house, he acted like he was above playing for that. The fact is he probobly did not have 2K on him.The Saw said:Steve,
You probably should have written the original post differently, in a manner where it wouldn't leave the the players identity open for conjecture. Everyone has read "He lives locally", "a 20 minute drive across town" and can easily see in the right hand corner of your post that you live in "Location: Columbus, Ohio". Since Cory moved to Fla. that only leaves 4 players "whose name would be easily recognized by all if mentioned" that you can possibly be talking about. As you know, I am very good friends with all of them. My whole point in posting is that most here can easily guess who three of the four are, the fourth would be recognizable but most wouldn't associate his name with Columbus. Peoples heads out there are spinning wondering who the player you are talking about is. Now, since you brought it to everyones attention, you may as well "out" whoever it is and save the other three from looking like greedy, pompous dirtbags! Piss one off and vindicate the three others.....
Kirk