Notice to Diamond of no longer delivering pool tables.

I don't know what I'm going to do later at this point, all I know for sure right now is I'm going to finish what I've started. I've never quit at anything in my life, I don't like starting that now. I just know I don't BELONG to ANYONE, and I'm not an OWNED billiards technician, and I can think outside of the box:D and every "last" pool table I've worked on is always the best table I've ever done, and I'm not about to change that now, nor would I ever;) I've just wanted a truck that has some room in it to build in a sleeper so I have somewhere to live while I do my job...working for the customer;) and be able to afford to do that job, and not have to wonder where I'm going to be broke down at next. I love what I do, and wouldn't change it for the world. I have other things I do, which has nothing to do with Diamond or recovering pool tables, which is separate from this job, those things I do to make money. This job is what I do for a living, a reason for getting up in the morning if you will, late as it may be at times:D As I've said many times in the past, you have to live this live to do this kind of work, and in order to live it, you have to love it, and I do. But fair is fair, and in my way of thinking, fair is at the 50 yard line, not in the bleachers, sitting back watching the game being played out;)

Glen
 
First off good luck to all parties involved.

Interesting reading for sure. Many times nothing happens until the final
straw is laid down. I think this is that time. I don't believe that Glen has not talked with Diamond about this at all and then posted this here. However, there are always two sides.

In business two parties don't have to like each other or be best friends. Business is about making money. I don't see a reason why the parties can't work this out even after this public notice.

If fuel and costs keep rising many businesses will suffer and things will have to stop going up and just stop. We have gotten a little spoiled with new technology and the transportation age.
Soon our physical world will be closing in faster than it already has been.

Glen,
Are you still doing to tables here in SoCal sometime in May?? I hope so.
I went by there last week. Its coming along. Only wish he was putting in
all Diamond Bar Tables.
 
realkingcobra said:
I don't know what I'm going to do later at this point, all I know for sure right now is I'm going to finish what I've started. I've never quit at anything in my life, I don't like starting that now. I just know I don't BELONG to ANYONE, and I'm not an OWNED billiards technician, and I can think outside of the box:D and every "last" pool table I've worked on is always the best table I've ever done, and I'm not about to change that now, nor would I ever;) I've just wanted a truck that has some room in it to build in a sleeper so I have somewhere to live while I do my job...working for the customer;) and be able to afford to do that job, and not have to wonder where I'm going to be broke down at next. I love what I do, and wouldn't change it for the world. I have other things I do, which has nothing to do with Diamond or recovering pool tables, which is separate from this job, those things I do to make money. This job is what I do for a living, a reason for getting up in the morning if you will, late as it may be at times:D As I've said many times in the past, you have to live this live to do this kind of work, and in order to live it, you have to love it, and I do. But fair is fair, and in my way of thinking, fair is at the 50 yard line, not in the bleachers, sitting back watching the game being played out;)

Glen


Glen,

Charge more for your sevices and buy your own equipment...
 
ribdoner said:
Glen,

Charge more for your sevices and buy your own equipment...
Only problem with that, is that Diamond is not the paying party, the customer buying is, that is who pays me, not Diamond;) If it WERE Diamond, that would be a horse of a different color:D

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
Only problem with that, is that Diamond is not the paying party, the customer buying is, that is who pays me, not Diamond;) If it WERE Diamond, that would be a horse of a different color:D

Glen


It seems to me, you make a lot of sales for Diamond tables. You could set up a contract with Diamond where anyone that requests your services for a table would need to provide Diamond with your ID. For all of these requests, you would get a bonus or sales commission.
 
Helicopter=table delivery & setup, zip, zip ,zip, but Can It Core A Apple

Well, I've read all 165 posts and I've made up my mind.
I am NOT going to drive/lease a truck and become a table 'technician'.

Doug
( With Google Earth and GPS, I have just two words for you............ HELICOPTER............. Big, mother-load humpin helicopter )
 
realkingcobra said:
Dear Greg, Chad, and Mark.

I feel it's only fair that I regretfully inform all of you that as of June 1st or there abouts, once I have finished delivering the tables I am committed to deliver, I'll no longer be delivering anymore of Diamonds pool tables. Due to irreconcilable differences, being this Diamond truck I lease from Diamond to deliver these Diamond tables, and the requests for something newer to deliver your pool tables with for the last 6 months, I can no longer do my job efficiently and cost effective as a sub-contractor as the cost of operating this vehicle is just to outrageous.

Once I've completed the last of my deliveries, I'll drop your truck off at the Diamond factory, then purchase something used to tow my trailer and belongings back to Washington State, where I'll resume my profession as a Billiards technician once again.

I have no hard feelings toward Diamond, or their employees, I've had a long relationship with most of you, dating back to March of 2000. I just feel that at this time, this is the best thing for all of us.

I have tried on several occasions to speak with all three of you about this situation, but over the last 6 months, I feel my concerns for better, more reliable transportation have fallen on the unimportant list, as in not a priority at the moment. A lot of moments have passed in the last 6 months.

Rather than part on bad terms, I feel it's only fair to inform you this way, as then I know you'll hear me, and my message.

To anyone that was planning on having me deliver your pool tables in the near future, I'm sure Diamond will make arrangements to still make that happen, just not with me.


Sincerely, Glen...the Realkingcobra.

This is entirely a letter of resignation. It says you are quitting and it says why. Nowhere does it leave room for "I'll stay on if you fix my truck situation".

So what is there really for Diamond to say except "Good luck in your future endeavors"?
 
Isn't this a little late for an

April Fool's Joke

you had some of us going.....

just wanted to break up the rythme little....


Craig
 
Smorgass Bored said:
Well, I've read all 165 posts and I've made up my mind.
I am NOT going to drive/lease a truck and become a table 'technician'.

Doug
( With Google Earth and GPS, I have just two words for you............ HELICOPTER............. Big, mother-load humpin helicopter )
I guess that could bring a new meaning to "Dropping" off someones pool table:D

Glen
 
Glenn,

Sorry to hear things have come to this. I could not be happier with the setup of the Diamond Table you put in my house. I am glad to hear you are going to continue to be a table tech. as I am going to be ready to have my Diamond Pro Am recovered this fall. I'll be in touch!
 
Glen - Where are you right now? ... and do you have my Pro Am in your truck?

Just a reminder... I fly out of town tomorrow (Wed.) and return home on Sunday (4/20). Hopefully, I will see you early next week. :)

Best regards, Dave.
 
cigardave said:
Glen - Where are you right now? ... and do you have my Pro Am in your truck?

Just a reminder... I fly out of town tomorrow (Wed.) and return home on Sunday (4/20). Hopefully, I will see you early next week. :)

Best regards, Dave.
It'll have to be next week Dave, as I'm still battling with these 10 foot billiards tables:D

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
So, let me get this straight. You think I should be begging Diamond for work? As in kissing the ground they stand on, because they "Leased" me a truck for delivering their pool tables with, that started out already having more than 275thousand miles on it? And Diamond...if they showed me "Charity" and "restraint"...should have to think twice about my working for them...because I might HOLD them HOSTAGE again...for a new truck at a later date....again??????????...Is that what you're saying?:confused: Because if it is, you haven't read a single thing I've posted;)

Glen
Nope. Not what I said at all. Sorry if it was confusing.

-td
 
I also just read this whole thread. I don't blame Glenn for posting it here at all. Just going from his side, which is all we have, Diamond was ignoring him. You have to vent somewhere, and if he's always on the road, then we might be 'family'.

My question is- since diamond leases the truck, with the stipulation they pay the big repair bills. Wouldn't it make sense and be cheaper for them to just lease another truck and sell the money-pit truck? They aren't paying the lease, Glenn is. I see nothing but savings for Diamond, with the possible exception of a possibly higher insurance cost. Whcih would apparently more than be offset by the lack of repair bills.

Also, someone mentioned that Diamond is a 'big' company. From everything I have read on these forums, which is my sole source of info on them, they seem to be a big name, but not a big company. It sounds like they are becoming one though. But it doesn't say much for the company when someone overseas wants a ton of tables and can't even get a response. They can't be too big a company if they don't even have anyone answering phones or e-mail.

Good luck to you Glenn. At least you had a job you enjoy for a while. That's something many never get.
 
Neil said:
I also just read this whole thread. I don't blame Glenn for posting it here at all. Just going from his side, which is all we have, Diamond was ignoring him. You have to vent somewhere, and if he's always on the road, then we might be 'family'.

My question is- since diamond leases the truck, with the stipulation they pay the big repair bills. Wouldn't it make sense and be cheaper for them to just lease another truck and sell the money-pit truck? They aren't paying the lease, Glenn is. I see nothing but savings for Diamond, with the possible exception of a possibly higher insurance cost. Whcih would apparently more than be offset by the lack of repair bills.

Also, someone mentioned that Diamond is a 'big' company. From everything I have read on these forums, which is my sole source of info on them, they seem to be a big name, but not a big company. It sounds like they are becoming one though. But it doesn't say much for the company when someone overseas wants a ton of tables and can't even get a response. They can't be too big a company if they don't even have anyone answering phones or e-mail.

Good luck to you Glenn. At least you had a job you enjoy for a while. That's something many never get.

Well I called them yesterday and talked to a very pleasant woman who transferred my call to Aaron with whom I've been coressponding(sp?) with. I left a phone message and he called me back today.

Most of my e-mails have been promptly responded to...and I'm just looking at buying one table.

So far my experience with them has been very good. I just wish shipping was cheaper to Edmonton, Alberta Canada! :) Still cheaper to buy a Diamond than buy a GC V from my local dealer.

Unfortunately I'll have to get a local mechanic to set up my table instead of a Diamond Mech. ($800 with Diamond due to the long drive up to Edmonton vs $330 local)
 
Dartman said:
My DVD backorders are over 1000 - I expect a big discount, lol :D

Anyway -
If I was to lay down many G's for a diamond table I'd be wayy more impressed
if the delivery guy showed up in this -
glensnewtruck1.jpg


rather then this -
glensoldtruck1.jpg


I think someone in Jeffersonville is missing a major marketing opportunity here.

what looks like a good deal (new truck, etc.) won't work. a rig that size is not even allowed in most residential areas. some customers who are shelling out the big bucks for a diamond live in gated communities and have to sign covenants disallowing such rigs access.

the box van like he has now would be allowed access. but, he needs a new truck and some time off.

I've driven trucks most of my life; those box vans are a ***** to drive when they get lots of miles on them. they eat up tires and gas, just for starters. the big rigs actually get better mileage than a box van loaded down with dtuff.

............d (totally sympatheyic with the cobra)
 
Neil said:
Also, someone mentioned that Diamond is a 'big' company. From everything I have read on these forums, which is my sole source of info on them, they seem to be a big name, but not a big company. It sounds like they are becoming one though.

Agree - big name and top notch product.
Big company comes when you extend your distribution to a network
of dealers and/or warehouses around the country. Maybe Diamond
hasn't figured that part out yet.
 
d_flash said:
a rig that size is not even allowed in most residential areas. some customers who are shelling out the big bucks for a diamond live in gated communities and have to sign covenants disallowing such rigs access.

So when I move into (or out of) my 15000 sq ft home in a gated community I reckon I'll have to
hire a platoon of peons to tote each box and piece of furniture in from the semi parked at the front gate? :rolleyes:
 
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