OB Cues break cue and shaft
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I've been using the break shaft since about Dec 08 and i've changed in the last month or so to the full OB Cues break cue. Its a great cue, the shaft itself is perfect but i really wanted a full purpose built break cue.
The butt is very plain and simple but the hit is what matters, and that i cant fault, i can hit the pack with power and control i would highly recommend this product to anyone!!!!!! By the way i actually do like the look of the the butt it has a similar design to the 108 cue but wrapless.
I know Royce posts on here as RBC so hopefully he will be able to help you by posting pics.......
The butt is very plain and simple but the hit is what matters, and that i cant fault, i can hit the pack with power and control i would highly recommend this product to anyone!!!!!! By the way i actually do like the look of the the butt it has a similar design to the 108 cue but wrapless.
I know Royce posts on here as RBC so hopefully he will be able to help you by posting pics.......
RBC
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Dave,
Thanks for the post!
Yes, the Break Cue is just about here! Of all the things we have done, this one has been the most difficult, and possibly the most rewarding. Its not easy building a quality cue that not only performs well, but also is price competitive with the imports. I am not knocking the imports as there are some great break cues out there, but being price competitive with them is not an easy task when your cue is made 100% in the USA!
I don't have any pictures right now, I had camera problems and should be getting a new one today, but I will post them here as soon as I can. The cue is very simple. The handle is made from 4 squares of laminated maple in a configuration we call "Quad Lam" construction. We use a compound taper that provides more thickness in the middle of the handle. A 5/16x14 joint with black collars and a black butt cap round it off. The handle is stained dark grey, and some come out almost black. We use the same weight system as our playing cues, and the weight ranges from around 17 up to around 20.5 ounces.
The OB Break Shaft is basically a beefed up version of our OB-1. It is 13mm at the tip with a stiffer taper, but not so big that it jams in your bridge. We use a thicker carbon fiber pad under the new Samsara Break Tip. The Samsara tip is all leather so it is legal under the new BCA rules.
A new concept is that we are offering the Break Shaft as a replacement shaft for other cues as well as on our Break Cue. The Break Shaft will be available soon in 5 different joints as well as a partial. We may add more joints as we go forward, it just depends on the demand.
The concept behind our Break Cues and Break Shafts is that Low Cue Ball Deflection, or Squirt, is good for the break. Let's face it, when you hit the ball hard, as you do on the break, you are more likely to miss the center of the cue ball. With most break cues the cue ball squirts off to the side on a miss hit cue ball, and you have a weak break. With the OB Break Cue and Break Shaft, you don't get as much Squirt, so you hit the front of the pack more square and with more power. Also, the softer hit of the OB Shaft and the leather tip help you with control of the cue ball. When people try it out, you just don't see the cue ball flying around near as much as you normally would.
Stay tuned, we hope to launch both of these products to our dealers early next week. They should have them to sell within a week or so from then. The numbers will be limited at first, but we are steadily building the inventory. If you are interested, call your favorite dealer and ask them about it. They may not have it yet, but they will need to get there orders in quickly when they are available.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
Thanks for the post!
Yes, the Break Cue is just about here! Of all the things we have done, this one has been the most difficult, and possibly the most rewarding. Its not easy building a quality cue that not only performs well, but also is price competitive with the imports. I am not knocking the imports as there are some great break cues out there, but being price competitive with them is not an easy task when your cue is made 100% in the USA!
I don't have any pictures right now, I had camera problems and should be getting a new one today, but I will post them here as soon as I can. The cue is very simple. The handle is made from 4 squares of laminated maple in a configuration we call "Quad Lam" construction. We use a compound taper that provides more thickness in the middle of the handle. A 5/16x14 joint with black collars and a black butt cap round it off. The handle is stained dark grey, and some come out almost black. We use the same weight system as our playing cues, and the weight ranges from around 17 up to around 20.5 ounces.
The OB Break Shaft is basically a beefed up version of our OB-1. It is 13mm at the tip with a stiffer taper, but not so big that it jams in your bridge. We use a thicker carbon fiber pad under the new Samsara Break Tip. The Samsara tip is all leather so it is legal under the new BCA rules.
A new concept is that we are offering the Break Shaft as a replacement shaft for other cues as well as on our Break Cue. The Break Shaft will be available soon in 5 different joints as well as a partial. We may add more joints as we go forward, it just depends on the demand.
The concept behind our Break Cues and Break Shafts is that Low Cue Ball Deflection, or Squirt, is good for the break. Let's face it, when you hit the ball hard, as you do on the break, you are more likely to miss the center of the cue ball. With most break cues the cue ball squirts off to the side on a miss hit cue ball, and you have a weak break. With the OB Break Cue and Break Shaft, you don't get as much Squirt, so you hit the front of the pack more square and with more power. Also, the softer hit of the OB Shaft and the leather tip help you with control of the cue ball. When people try it out, you just don't see the cue ball flying around near as much as you normally would.
Stay tuned, we hope to launch both of these products to our dealers early next week. They should have them to sell within a week or so from then. The numbers will be limited at first, but we are steadily building the inventory. If you are interested, call your favorite dealer and ask them about it. They may not have it yet, but they will need to get there orders in quickly when they are available.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
Royce,
Would you like me to put a picture of mine on here over the weekend?
And while your here can i say thankyou i love the cue!!!!!
Dave
Would you like me to put a picture of mine on here over the weekend?
And while your here can i say thankyou i love the cue!!!!!
Dave
I can't wait to see what you have to offer, Royce. I'm confident it will be another great product.
Also, I applaud you for making the shaft available seperately. Very wise choice! You were a shaft company first and shouldn't all of a sudden mandate that the user must buy a break shaft AND butt to get the technology. A competitor of your's didn't see it that way and I believe it cost them MANY sales.
Also, I applaud you for making the shaft available seperately. Very wise choice! You were a shaft company first and shouldn't all of a sudden mandate that the user must buy a break shaft AND butt to get the technology. A competitor of your's didn't see it that way and I believe it cost them MANY sales.
RBC
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Well,
Here is the first pic of the full butt.
Basically, it is stained grey with black collars and a butt cap. Very simple.
I know it's really hard to tell from here, but you can see some of the lamination lines when you look close. This is a no frills, purpose only cue!
Also, if you look closely, you can see that the butt has a compound taper. What that means is that it does not have a straight taper from the butt cap to the joint collar. The handle area stays thick for about 13 inches, only narrowing slightly, before it tapers down to the joint diameter. The main purpose for this is added stiffness and handle size uniformity. The cue won't feel thin for players with shorter spans and fat for players with longer spans.
I will shoot some pics of the joint and the shaft here shortly.
Thanks
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
Here is the first pic of the full butt.
Basically, it is stained grey with black collars and a butt cap. Very simple.
I know it's really hard to tell from here, but you can see some of the lamination lines when you look close. This is a no frills, purpose only cue!
Also, if you look closely, you can see that the butt has a compound taper. What that means is that it does not have a straight taper from the butt cap to the joint collar. The handle area stays thick for about 13 inches, only narrowing slightly, before it tapers down to the joint diameter. The main purpose for this is added stiffness and handle size uniformity. The cue won't feel thin for players with shorter spans and fat for players with longer spans.
I will shoot some pics of the joint and the shaft here shortly.
Thanks
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
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RBC
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Here are a few more shots!
First, this is of the joint end of the butt, and both ends of the cue shaft. As you can see, we use phenolic joint collars with a 5/16x14 joint screw. The tip is the Samsara Break tip, and it has our Carbon Fiber pad, but it is double the normal thickness at .0625"
Next is a look at the Quad Lam construction. This is the butt end after the tenon and threads were cut for the butt cap. We have not bored and threaded for the weight system yet. This Quad Lam runs the entire length of the butt. It is very stiff and very stable. As you can see, it is 4 sections of flat laminated maple oriented with the laminations opposed to the corresponding layers on either side.
First, this is of the joint end of the butt, and both ends of the cue shaft. As you can see, we use phenolic joint collars with a 5/16x14 joint screw. The tip is the Samsara Break tip, and it has our Carbon Fiber pad, but it is double the normal thickness at .0625"
Next is a look at the Quad Lam construction. This is the butt end after the tenon and threads were cut for the butt cap. We have not bored and threaded for the weight system yet. This Quad Lam runs the entire length of the butt. It is very stiff and very stable. As you can see, it is 4 sections of flat laminated maple oriented with the laminations opposed to the corresponding layers on either side.
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The OB Break cue was used by Glen Atwell when he took 2,1,2 in the Reno Open as I recall (Royce could verify that). Glen goes thru break cues more than anybody I know but he will not part the the OB Break cue he has and is still using it today.
The OB Break cue was used by Glen Atwell when he took 2,1,2 in the Reno Open as I recall (Royce could verify that). Glen goes thru break cues more than anybody I know but he will not part the the OB Break cue he has and is still using it today.
RBC
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Bob,
Yes, Glen used our break cue when doing so well at the Reno tournament, Thanks!
The break cue has been a long time coming. It is worth it though, as it plays so well. The Break Shafts should also be very popular as they are one of the few shafts offered just for the break.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
Yes, Glen used our break cue when doing so well at the Reno tournament, Thanks!
The break cue has been a long time coming. It is worth it though, as it plays so well. The Break Shafts should also be very popular as they are one of the few shafts offered just for the break.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
This is along the lines of what I was wondering as well.
Stain options or no staining at all?
RBC
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Fore,
The list price is $383.00, but they should be available as low as $325.00.
As far as the color goes, some of them are almost completely black while others are more dark gray. I am sure that we could make them black with no problem though.
I only have a couple of dozen right now, so I would need to hook you up with one of our dealers, that is where these are all going. I do expect to have more done by the end of June, and we should have production going full steam by the end of July.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
The list price is $383.00, but they should be available as low as $325.00.
As far as the color goes, some of them are almost completely black while others are more dark gray. I am sure that we could make them black with no problem though.
I only have a couple of dozen right now, so I would need to hook you up with one of our dealers, that is where these are all going. I do expect to have more done by the end of June, and we should have production going full steam by the end of July.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
RBC
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McChen,
Currently our cue is a Break Cue only. Our testing found that Break/Jump cues are a compromise. They are good at one or the other, not both.
Low Squirt, or deflection, is huge on the break. The cue ball doesn't jump up as much, and you hit the front of the pack more full a higher percentage of the time. Most jump break combos are high deflection, which makes them jump very well, but makes them hard to control on the break. Don't get me wrong, when you hit them perfect, they break great. The problem is how often do you hit them perfect?
We do have a jump cue in the prototype stages and it works very well. Oddly enough we have a method of making it Low Deflection or squirt, and it still jumps very easily. However, I don't think we can use those same methods in a break cue.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
Currently our cue is a Break Cue only. Our testing found that Break/Jump cues are a compromise. They are good at one or the other, not both.
Low Squirt, or deflection, is huge on the break. The cue ball doesn't jump up as much, and you hit the front of the pack more full a higher percentage of the time. Most jump break combos are high deflection, which makes them jump very well, but makes them hard to control on the break. Don't get me wrong, when you hit them perfect, they break great. The problem is how often do you hit them perfect?
We do have a jump cue in the prototype stages and it works very well. Oddly enough we have a method of making it Low Deflection or squirt, and it still jumps very easily. However, I don't think we can use those same methods in a break cue.
Thanks!
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
Royce, what's the collar diameter of the break shaft?
RBC
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Thunder,
The joint diameter depends on which joint you have. Our OB Break Cue is 5/16x14, so it is .840". The others are as follows:
5/16x18 .830"
3/8x10 .850"
Radial .842"
UniLoc .842"
All shafts are standard 29" long, and the Partials are long enough for 30", and .890" at the joint (unfinished at the joint end)
Of course, we can build others too. I am currently working on the insert for the J&J cues (also the Bunjee).
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
The joint diameter depends on which joint you have. Our OB Break Cue is 5/16x14, so it is .840". The others are as follows:
5/16x18 .830"
3/8x10 .850"
Radial .842"
UniLoc .842"
All shafts are standard 29" long, and the Partials are long enough for 30", and .890" at the joint (unfinished at the joint end)
Of course, we can build others too. I am currently working on the insert for the J&J cues (also the Bunjee).
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
I've heard that high deflection is good for jumping too. However, I had my BK2 cut into a jump break and it jumps very well. Mine also does not have the phenolic tip, I put on a very hard soaked and pressed water buffalo tip and it still jumps great. From what I've experienced, you just really need a stiff shaft, hard ferrule and hard tip to jump?
definitely agree with you on LD for breaking, it helps so much!
Folks,
I've said this before in previous threads, but this shaft rocks! It's a super solid hit and feels very good when you hit the cue ball. Playing on a team, I have let all my previous team mates and some friends break with the stick and nearly all of the had great things to say and most are going to buy it when it goes production.
I know you don't know me outside of the forums, but you will not be disappointed with this break stick/shaft.
Cheers,
Dan
I've said this before in previous threads, but this shaft rocks! It's a super solid hit and feels very good when you hit the cue ball. Playing on a team, I have let all my previous team mates and some friends break with the stick and nearly all of the had great things to say and most are going to buy it when it goes production.
I know you don't know me outside of the forums, but you will not be disappointed with this break stick/shaft.
Cheers,
Dan
Thanks Royce, I'm going to be first in line when the shafts arrive at Seybert's :thumbup:
