MBTaylor said:Need to add "can't beat the ghost to save my life..."
Maybe a less than 50% on a one ball ghost?
Official AZ Player "Ghost Rating" Thread
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Maybe a less than 50% on a one ball ghost?
Well I could beat the 7 ball ghost race to 5 last week, but this week I'm down to the 5 ball ghost at best. I hate losing progress.
On another note... Fatboy can I work for you when I get out of the military? I'd like to be one of your 6 figure programmers
On another note... Fatboy can I work for you when I get out of the military? I'd like to be one of your 6 figure programmers
Yes, but you know, I spend more time with drills, I dont play the ghost often, when I do its useualy 7 ball.. This is great roational run out practice, and I personaly get much more predictable breaks, and can string more racks together consistantly than nine ball, thus is why I play it.... Now I play if you miss you loose. Im not sure how you guy's or gals play the ghost but this is the way I play..
SPINDOKTOR
James said:
I don't get these stats. So many people have listed themselves as being able to beat the 10 ball ghost, while the best pros in the world have a 9 ball run out rate of around 30% (or so I hear). Am I missing something here or does BIH really matter that much?
On another note, how do these stats compare on a 7' table?
On another note, how do these stats compare on a 7' table?
well
id say i play the 7 ball ghost pretty even on a crown 4 with shimmed pockets and you guys who play the 10 ball ghost even you can try it on the table in our local room for 50 a game
id say i play the 7 ball ghost pretty even on a crown 4 with shimmed pockets and you guys who play the 10 ball ghost even you can try it on the table in our local room for 50 a game
I should beat the nine ball ghost if I'm playing well on an easy table, but I put down the 8-ball ghost because if $$ was on the line, I'm chicken enough to want the extra edge.
Every ball past nine-ball ghost is a huge difference to me. I was playing ok and beating the nine ball ghost one day so I thought I'd try 12-ball ghost that pros beat when they're in stroke.
Lost 10-2 and 10-4, not even close. Those extra balls are a b!tch.
Every ball past nine-ball ghost is a huge difference to me. I was playing ok and beating the nine ball ghost one day so I thought I'd try 12-ball ghost that pros beat when they're in stroke.
Lost 10-2 and 10-4, not even close. Those extra balls are a b!tch.
This doesn't test defense
I'm usually playing against myself and I am either one of the best defensive players in the world or worst offensive players. I have my suspicions which it is but I will remain mum. Did you have to start off with the three ball ghost?
Hu
jsp said:.....Bump.....
I won't gamble against anyone who listed themselves as a G3. You are all liars.
I'm usually playing against myself and I am either one of the best defensive players in the world or worst offensive players. I have my suspicions which it is but I will remain mum. Did you have to start off with the three ball ghost?
Hu
James said:
I picked the 10-ball ghost because it is pretty much the only ghost I play. Plus if you go by the original posters criteria (which I have quoted in this post) it is not that hard to beat the 10-ball ghost half the time in a race to 5 taking BIH after the break IMHO...
-Andy
jsp said:
TATE said:
Awwww...............shucks............
Here's some info for folks that may not understand how well people can actually play this game.
Several pro player buddies of mine play the 11, 12, and 13 balls ghosts
Some of them will beat the 11 ball ghost routinely and a few have beaten the 12 ball ghost, but as far as I know, nobody is beating the 13 ball ghost, yet. These guys are top 5-10 players in the USA.
Just in case you all need the rack diagrams, here they are:
11-Ball
12-Ball
13-Ball
Well, I don't play 9 ball but I thought I would try this ghost since I saw this thread on my GC3. I played 10 sets 9ball races to 5 and won 3 sets of the 10, went hill/hill on 4 other sets. Played it spotting the 9 if it went on the break and taking BIH after the break. Is that the way to play? So do I suck? LOL
jsp said:Hmm...considering the low turnout of this public poll, we must have lots of hardcore gamblers on this forum.
You can always grossly underestimate your ghost rating, like I did (I wish
Well, I woulda grossly underestimated mine, but you don't have the 1 ball ghost as an option!!
trueblu8 said:Me too dude. Lol.
33.3% can beat the 10 ball ghost in a race to five on a regular basis?! Lol. I think if the other poller's are like me they didn't read your post about the race to five part until after they submitted their answers.
At least Travis Trotter voted accurately.
Here is a quote from yours truly from the other ghost thread:
That would be a good universal way to rate players. One guy could say he can beat the 6ball ghost on a 9 footer and another guy might say that he can consistently beat the 4 ball ghost and thats it.
Then if some hack says he consistently beats the 7 ball ghost you could say, "Okay I'll bet $20 on the ghost in a race to 7 against you. Show me."
As Hannibal from the A-team use to say, "I love it when a plan comes together."
That would be a good universal way to rate players. One guy could say he can beat the 6ball ghost on a 9 footer and another guy might say that he can consistently beat the 4 ball ghost and thats it.
Then if some hack says he consistently beats the 7 ball ghost you could say, "Okay I'll bet $20 on the ghost in a race to 7 against you. Show me."
As Hannibal from the A-team use to say, "I love it when a plan comes together."
Interestingly I have been rated a 6 in the tap league for a few years and after extensive testing I am a G6 as well.
What a great way to gauge your improvement and as I've said on here before it es excellent practice because you are breaking a lot and you are totally focused on every shot because you actually feel like you lost when you miss and feel great when you finally beat a ghost you've never beaten.
Awesome thread. This is such a better 9 ball rating system than a, b, c, d
The only problem is too many people are guesstimating. Get on the table.
What a great way to gauge your improvement and as I've said on here before it es excellent practice because you are breaking a lot and you are totally focused on every shot because you actually feel like you lost when you miss and feel great when you finally beat a ghost you've never beaten.
Awesome thread. This is such a better 9 ball rating system than a, b, c, d
The only problem is too many people are guesstimating. Get on the table.
Anyone else notice that cubc listed himself as playing the 9-ball ghost even? LOL
jsp said:The other "How do you play?" thread got me thinking about the subjective rating systems that we've always been using (A, B, C, APA6, SL4, etc.). As another poster described, such rating systems are rather meaningless since we have our own definitions of what a B player or APA5 should be. Why can't we all use a rating system that is much more OBJECTIVE?
I think there is no better objective way to gauge your speed as a player than by giving the particular rotation ghost with which you play more or less even, say for a race to 5. The only subjective aspect of this rating system is what type of equipment you use to determine your rating. For consistency sake, let's assume a fairly tight table with 4.5'' corner pockets as the standard for the "ghost rating".
For example, I currently play the 5-ball ghost fairly even (I beat it roughly half the time, while losing roughly half the time) in a race to 5, using a Diamond Pro with pro-cut pockets. So my ghost rating would be G5, for ghost 5.
So, what is your ghost rating?
(Warning, this is a public poll, so don't answer if you don't want to knock your action. Or at least lie.)
This isnt accurate to judge someones speed. A good defensive player has a big advantage in 10ball then just running out. Just cause a guy cant beat the 10ball ghost doesnt have to make him a underdog against someone who can.