Official AZ Player "Ghost Rating" Thread

What Ghost do you play even?

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But really what could possibly be more accurate than this for a 9 ball rating? I think that 90% of the good players out there are able to beat say the 9 ball ghost all have about the same rating for the defensive part of their game as well.

And most of the players that can only beat the 4 ball ghost probably have simalarly weak defensive games.

You might find 10% of the players who have an AMAZING defensive game but can't run out as well.

Just my personal opinion.
 
What is the more standard way to break ghost racks less than 9? Rack 9 and remove balls after the break, or simply rack that number from the get go? I prefer racking 9-ball and then removing balls from the table after the break, because you get practice breaking a 9-ball rack in the process. But if that's the way... assuming you're playing the 6-ball ghost, for example... say you make a ball on the break... do you always remove 3 balls after the break, or do you always leave 6 balls?

I guess it doesn't matter for me since I don't know which ghost I beat anyway.... I just know I always lose my races with the 9-ball ghost. :o Just wondering how AZ wants to define it. :)
 
You just made all us G2's feel like idiots leaving our speed off the list :P

J/K, not even I'm that bad. I can hang with the 4 ball ghost and probably win most of the time. The 5 ball ghost is tougher for me. I don't get a lot of time to practice though, an hour or two per week and I've only been playing a year and a half. This stat will seriously increase when the RKC finally gets here with my table.

I also agree with whoever said always break 9-ball but remove however many balls afterwards to match your handicap. I do 10-ball most of the time but it's good to get the break practice on these games. I always leave the same amount of balls on the table, even if I make one on the break I still remove enough to match the handicap every time.
 
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how exactly does one rack the 7 ball rack? I know the shape of it but not the way it's positioned exactly.
 
Take the rack, leave out the head ball. Put the one to the left on the second row. Counting that as #1, the ball nest to it is #2. In the nest row, which is three balls, but the 7 in the middle, or the #4 spot. Then put the other two balls in the last row. Then just turn the rack while holding the balls in place, and adjust it to have the one on the spot.
 
I'm with you James! :D I'd bet the farm, the condo, AND the ranch in Montana! :eek: :D I think the real problem is when people have done it once (beat the ghost), and think they can do it again, at will, under pressure. In most cases...not much chance. :rolleyes: :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

James said:
I would bet the farm against likely 1/2 of the people on the 9-ball and 10-ball ghost lists.
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Scott Lee said:
I'm with you James! :D I'd bet the farm, the condo, AND the ranch in Montana! :eek: :D I think the real problem is when people have done it once (beat the ghost), and think they can do it again, at will, under pressure. In most cases...not much chance. :rolleyes: :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Im with the both of yall on this scott. People are always better looking and better pool players on the internet.
 
Yesterday I beat the 10-ball ghost 10-7 on a stupid Gandy with jumpy rails. I played a while before starting the race so I could get the speed down because I'm used to playing on the diamonds and brunswicks at Q-Masters. When this poll came out I could only beat the 7-ball ghost consistently. I'm not saying I can beat the 10-ball ghost consistently but the 9-ball ghost is probably easily within reach.
 
So, who on the `beats the 10 ball ghost` list will put up unedited proof on YouTube?? :) ;)

Brian
 
D_Lewis said:
How do you play the ghost?
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Go to "Search", then type in "ghost". Only like 3,000 hits will come up, and half of those will answer you question.

OR...

You could go back and read the rest of the thread.

:D :D :D

Russ
 
Believe me, I'm all about practice and drills, but does anyone else feel that playing the ghost is not that helpful to normal play? Nothing terribly major, and I'm not out to start a flame war, but to me it's just that it's a different rhythm playing 100% offense and it seems you're really not practicing being in control. No disrespect the far more skilled players who practice this, but isn't it kind of like practicing making shots without practicing choosing them?
 
Da Poet said:
Believe me, I'm all about practice and drills, but does anyone else feel that playing the ghost is not that helpful to normal play? Nothing terribly major, and I'm not out to start a flame war, but to me it's just that it's a different rhythm playing 100% offense and it seems you're really not practicing being in control. No disrespect the far more skilled players who practice this, but isn't it kind of like practicing making shots without practicing choosing them?
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Well I have a theory that the most important thing is that the practice even happens at all. If I were an instructor I would gladly send a student off with the challenge of beating the next level ghost because I would believe that he would be likely to have fun being challenged by the ghost and would actually do the practice.

If I sent him with some safety drills I would have some doubt as to whether it would actually happen.

I just finished playing the 7 ball ghost and it was hill hill 6-6 and I cut the 7 and left it hanging. That entire hour I was intensely focused. I can't wait to beat that 7 ghost tomorrow for my first time.
 
I beat the 10 ball ghost by swinging at the cheese:D:D:D

I did it once and will never try it again. I would, however, take even money on the 7 ball ghost.
 
APA7 said:
So, who on the `beats the 10 ball ghost` list will put up unedited proof on YouTube?? :) ;)

Brian
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Don't tell anybody ;) but I'm getting my wife a sony handycam for her birthday on the 22nd... :D This would be a good use :p
 
Who Beats The 10 Ball Ghost???

This iz who I think can N CAN'T post up unedited YouTube proof of beating the 10 ball ghost:

can:

CrownCityCorey,jamesroberts, Steve Lipsky, Joe T, unknownpro

CAN'T:

Blackjack, Jaden, travis trotter

I don't know about the rest. ;) :eek:

Brian
 
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Da Poet said:
Believe me, I'm all about practice and drills, but does anyone else feel that playing the ghost is not that helpful to normal play? Nothing terribly major, and I'm not out to start a flame war, but to me it's just that it's a different rhythm playing 100% offense and it seems you're really not practicing being in control. No disrespect the far more skilled players who practice this, but isn't it kind of like practicing making shots without practicing choosing them?
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I use it as a drill. Many times in 9-ball you have a potential out, but fail to attain it because you got out of position and end up playing safe. You tend not to think about your shortcoming on position play because you got a good safe.

Playing the ghost, you pay dearly for getting out of line. It also teaches you to maintain focus throughout the whole game. It does increase your run-out percentage if you take it seriously. And it shows you where you need work on position play.

To keep from getting stuck in pure offensive mode, every now and then I shoot a rack of nothing but safties. And a rack of kick and bank shots.
 
APA7 said:
This iz who I think can N CAN'T post up unedited YouTube proof of beating the 10 ball ghost:

can:

CrownCityCorey,jamesroberts, Steve Lipsky,

CAN'T:

Blackjack, Jaden, travis trotter

I don't know about the rest. ;) :eek:

Brian
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It almost seems like you are taking this personal that they claim to be able to beat the 10 ball ghost. You are already an APA 7, you have nothing left to prove.
 
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