Official AZ Player "Ghost Rating" Thread

What Ghost do you play even?

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easy-e said:
It almost seems like you are taking this personal that they claim to be able to beat the 10 ball ghost. You are already an APA 7, you have nothing left to prove.
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Not taking it personal my friend, Im from Missouri, SHOW ME :p ;)

Brian
 
G3.

I don't know why people have such a hard time posting thier real speed. You are what you are.

Lately, I throw out three balls, take BIH, and try to run out on my 8'er with tight pockets. I'm getting pretty good at it. G4 is over my head, but I can runout more and more, no real consistancy. It's a real good pratice drill.
 
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Da Poet said:
Believe me, I'm all about practice and drills, but does anyone else feel that playing the ghost is not that helpful to normal play? ...?
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It teaches the single most important aspect of successful pool, that is: RUN OUT.

Safes are important, but not if you aren't going to RUN OUT. You are unlikely to get more than 1 BIH every couple of games playing a top 5,000 player.

I look at it like a ring game, you RUN OUT and maintain your status as shooter...you get big bucks for it. Do you want to fire that bank in and RUN OUT or do you want to play a safe and hope none of the other 4 guys playing win that game, and the next? and the next? and the next? and the next?

I pick RUN OUT. And do it again.
 
The ghost is one of the best ways to practice imo. It is one of the best ways to get yourself under pressure and to learn to raise the intensity of your concentration level while practicing solo.
 
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Scott Lee said:
I'm with you James! :D I'd bet the farm, the condo, AND the ranch in Montana! :eek: :D I think the real problem is when people have done it once (beat the ghost), and think they can do it again, at will, under pressure. In most cases...not much chance. :rolleyes: :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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I think I chose G5 (it was a couple days ago, I don't really remember)

3-4 years ago I was approaching 70% against the 6 ball ghost (I actually kept stats on myself), I just don't have that kind of practice time anymore.

I was leveling out after a few years of steady improvement and started to lose focus. Oh yea, also came across one of them women thingys.

If I can ever ditch the GF, err... umm... find more time to play, I think I'll have to seek instruction to help myself stay with it. I always wanted to (get educated), my free time just dried up whenI finally felt I was ready for it.

-Jon
just a silly league player (APA 5)
 
fine you can think what you want....

APA7 said:
This iz who I think can N CAN'T post up unedited YouTube proof of beating the 10 ball ghost:

can:

CrownCityCorey,jamesroberts, Steve Lipsky,

CAN'T:

Blackjack, Jaden, travis trotter

I don't know about the rest. ;) :eek:

Brian
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Besides which the poll wasn't who can beat what ghost, the poll was for what ghost you break even with. I'll be happy to post a youtube video of me playing the ghost. whether I win or lose I'll post it up, and whether I win or lose I'm sure that no one will ever question my game again.

Jaden.

I don't know how long it will be considering that I work full time, go to school full time etc.etc.
 
karma said:
Here's an old vid of me playing the 9ball ghost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tWCh3KYYK8&feature=PlayList&p=F9F182FE368F532F&index=0&playnext=1

It's a playlist, so it will play the 10 vids one after another without the need to click them separately.

Since you asked for 10ball I'll try to record a set on the weekend and edit it in as large chunks as possible.
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Nice shooting sir!

You're the first to actually back up what you claim with video evidence. Sure you only played the 9-ball ghost in the vid, but considering you beat it 9-1...I won't hesitate at all to believe you're a G10.
 
Black-Balled said:
It teaches the single most important aspect of successful pool, that is: RUN OUT.

Safes are important, but not if you aren't going to RUN OUT. You are unlikely to get more than 1 BIH every couple of games playing a top 5,000 player.

I look at it like a ring game, you RUN OUT and maintain your status as shooter...you get big bucks for it. Do you want to fire that bank in and RUN OUT or do you want to play a safe and hope none of the other 4 guys playing win that game, and the next? and the next? and the next? and the next?

I pick RUN OUT. And do it again.
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I hear you.

I'm a big believer in fight like you train and train like you fight. I think the natural tendency for me and others when fatigued or in a high pressure situation, is to unconciously revert to whatever habits are the most natural. My experience has been that if I spend too much time choosing shots in a simulated game that I wouldn't choose in a real match, my instincts become trained into those shot selections anyways, and that just confuses things for me.

It's a fine line and I agree that some practice is better than no practice, and it's a legitimate way to occasionally check on your runout progress, but respectfully, whether you can run out after getting ball in hand more often than not seems irrelevant to the main objective which is doing something that will help you win matches in high pressure situations. My philosphy is there are hidden strategic dangers and jewels in every table layout and the more you ignore them while you're training, the more you'll ignore them when you're fighting. :eek: :D
 
Da Poet said:
...there are hidden strategic dangers and jewels in every table layout and the more you ignore them while you're training, the more you'll ignore them when you're fighting. :eek: :D
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Methinks you thinks too much. There are no dangers or jewels. Only balls that belong in holes: No more, no less.;)

Be dum, get happy.
 
APA7 said:
This iz who I think can N CAN'T post up unedited YouTube proof of beating the 10 ball ghost:

can:

CrownCityCorey,jamesroberts, Steve Lipsky, Joe T, unknownpro

CAN'T:

Blackjack, Jaden, travis trotter

I don't know about the rest. ;) :eek:

Brian
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Since nobody will put up You tube proof, I want 2 change my pick to `i beat the 10 ball ghost` :o :rolleyes:

Brian
 
I just reread the initial proposition and see that fairly tight pockets are a requirement. If I were in dead stroke I might be more confident in my ability to beat the 10-ball ghost in such conditions, but right now, I'm not sure.

I'm not playing the 9-ball league at Amsterdam this season, which served as my one match a week of that hideous game ;). So to stay in rotation-stroke I've been playing the ghost a bit. Hadn't done it in awhile and had forgotten that it's such good practice. Playing on normal-sized pockets it was taking me about 19 or 21 games to beat the 9-ball ghost 7-ahead, which was pretty annoying because I used to be better than that, lol. But I'm just not playing much rotation these days.

So, in the heyday, maybe 10-ball on tight pockets. Right now, probably not, though maybe I'll try it on normal pockets this weekend and make sure I still play at least even with it.

Just wanted to clarify...

- Steve
 
APA7 said:
Since nobody will put up You tube proof, I want 2 change my pick to `i beat the 10 ball ghost` :o :rolleyes:

Brian
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I will email you proof. I never voted for this yet, but I can beat the 10 ball. I will play same rules as 9 ball with ball in after break, scratch or not.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
I will email you proof. I never voted for this yet, but I can beat the 10 ball. I will play same rules as 9 ball with ball in after break, scratch or not.
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U R a player, Jason. I don`t think there iz N E doubt that U can do it. ;) :cool:

Brian
 
Gregg said:
G3.

I don't know why people have such a hard time posting thier real speed. You are what you are.

Lately, I throw out three balls, take BIH, and try to run out on my 8'er with tight pockets. I'm getting pretty good at it. G4 is over my head, but I can runout more and more, no real consistancy. It's a real good pratice drill.
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Gregg,

This is one of my favorite drills. I became obsessed with this drill about 8 years ago. I used to do sets of 50 "3 ball outs". I averaged about 47 out of 50. I've done this drill for 10 hours straight several times. It took me several hundred sets (yes that many!) before I finally scored that elusive 50 out of 50.

I did not allow myself to ever start a set over if I missed early.

It is an excellent drill to improve your position play. And concentration too - at least when you get to where you get out over 90% of the time. I usually missed for no specific strategy reason. If I ever wavered on what to do, I'd write down the layout and try it 20 times a couple different ways til I convinced myself which was the easiest way out.

When I was first learning, I used to 2 ball outs. You've really got to focus to get 100 out of 100 when you're just becoming a run-out player.

Andy
 
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