Old Guy KO At The Pool Hall

Actually the most damaging part of that beatdown was his head bouncing off the floor. Which is usually what kills people in a fist fight. This is why you extract yourself from situations like this. The guy that got hit may have have instigated the fight....but the old boxer will have no leg to stand on in criminal or civil court....and believe me his boxing past will be seriously bite him in his ass and his wallet.

I hope the instigator is at the emergency room getting checked out thoroughly....I wouldn't be suprised if he has at least a concussion and possibly some form of brain bleeding/trauma. If that crowd of people would of been peacemakers....nothing would of happened. Unfortunately they clearly influenced the old boxer into hitting the instigator. This was really a pathetic situation...........

100% correct...
 
We can agree to disagree:)

If anything, the management should fire the staff for letting this escalate as much as it did.

I think thats what is being debated some here, the room shows its class by this video. Perhaps it a one time thing, but I got the feeling its the norm there not the exception.
 
what I saw. . .

The big guy who is wearing the red shirt and leaning back on the pool table at the beginning of the video is the same one who 'assists' the injured fellow away from there at the end. If he's an employee, he should be canned for egging it on rather than stepping in to prevent it.

Whatever the issue was between these guys, there obviously was some heat and the puncher is clearly heard warning the other guy about putting his hands on him.

The guy with his hands behind his back seems to be getting in the puncher's personal space and jawing with him pretty good and then he brings his hands down to his side and if you look at his right hand, you will see, unequivocally, he makes a fist and his accompanying body language looks like he might be getting ready to go (moving toward the puncher).

The boxer wasn't having it.

There were a few references on this thread about the injured guy extending his hand for a handshake only to be sucker punched.

Can anyone tell me where in this video that occurred?

All I saw was his hands behind his back then him balling up his right hand into a fist as he moved forward. No handshake attempt.

The knuckleheads in the room were obviously just looking for some cheap entertainment and they got it. :rolleyes:

best,
brian kc
 
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The big guy who is wearing the orange shirt and leaning back on the pool table at the beginning of the video is the same one who 'assists' the injured fellow away from there at the end. If he's an employee, he should be canned for egging it on rather than stepping in to prevent it.

Whatever the issue was between these guys, there obviously was some heat and the puncher is clearly heard referring to the other guy as having had put his hands on him.

The guy with his hands behind his back seems to be getting in the puncher's personal space and jawing with him pretty good but then he brings his hands down to his side and if you look at his right hand, you will see, unequivocally, he makes a fist and his accompanying body language looks like he might be getting ready to go.

The boxer wasn't gonna let that happen.

There were a few references on this thread about the injured guy extending his hand for a handshake only to be suckerpunched.

Can anyone tell me where in this video that happened?

All I saw was his hands behind his back then him balling up his right hand into a fist. No handshake attempt that I could see.

The knuckleheads in the room were obviously just looking for some cheap entertainment and they got it.

best,
brian kc

It was almost like they were kicking the guy out, not really helping him. Helping would have been getting him to a seat, and perhaps a tissue to wipe the blood away.
 
I see Brickedout got the ban-hammer. I wonder why. I searched his posting history (26 posts) and didn't see anything out of line and actually were very civil.. Must have been someone that was previously banned.

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What's with the incredulous WTF????-? Are you waiting for everyone to bum rush my comment and agree with you ? It means what i said .

I think most everyone else was saying the same thing in their head. I know I was. Your post made it sound like you wanted the guy to come back with a machine gun and go mass murder on everyone.

The dude who got hit decided it would be a good idea to get into a verbal altercation with an ex-boxer, then get into his face while making threatening gestures and body language (like balling up his fist as Kickin Chicken pointed out), and he caught a beatdown for it. Actually, it wasn't even a beatdown, he got punched twice. And because of this, you want him to come back and kill everyone in the room?

That's a bit much. Mentalities like that is a big part of what's wrong today. You stepped up, and you got your ass beat. Deal with it like a man.
 
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I think most everyone else was saying the same thing in their head. I know I was. Your post made it sound like you wanted the guy to come back with a machine gun and go mass murder on everyone.

The dude who got hit decided it would be a good idea to get into a verbal altercation with an ex-boxer, then get into his face while making threatening gestures and body language (like balling up his fist as Kickin Chicken pointed out), and he caught a beatdown for it. Actually, it wasn't even a beatdown, he got punched twice. And because of this, you want him to come back and kill everyone in the room?

That's a bit much. Mentalities like that is a big part of what's wrong today. You stepped up, and you got your ass beat. Deal with it like a man.




Not sure anybody really knows what started this all , but McKeesport says he knows puncher and that he is a non drinker so he's not drunk , he looks about half a head taller than the drunk punchee . He is setting his feet up for the roundhouse or right hook , what ever you want to call it .

If this guy is an ex boxer he should know have some defensive skills . Stepping up and being a man means not punching someone that is drunk when your sober , he let the black guys egg him on . Reminded me of a strip joint bouncer , looking for an opportunity to hit someone to show off in front of the dancers.


The guy clowning for the camera with the countdown needs a beatdown.
 
Any lawyer would take the case I would bet. Video evidence? :thumbup:

First thing you do is go to an ER then get a referral to a plastic surgeon.

Face? :thumbup:

If there is even the slightest scar any lawyer will be drooling. Facial injuries that you can sue for are golden.

Concussion? Yup. He was out. That's a brain injury by definition.

I want a neuro consult too.

Pain and suffering? Add onto that lifelong bouts with headaches and neck pain, maybe someday he gets seizures or Alszheimers. Post Traumatic? Lots of therapy and medication for years.

Very life altering and expensive.

I am betting they wouldn't just sue the guy throwing the punch...but also the establishment...the guy with the camera...the person that uploaded the video...anybody and everybody possible.

The best one would be the establishment because they have insurance.


Yup.....and the merit of the case does not matter either. They'll be happy enough to settle out of court.

Pretty simple really.


Criminal? Oh yeah...that too. Pretty certain.

"Your Honor, he put his hand on me so I bashed his face in and injured his brain. That's how it works right? I get to do whatever I want to him short of killing him if he bothered me." Yeah....that will go over real well. :grin:



I think any half decent lawyer could make his mortgage payment, Mercedes payment, boat payment, and take a short vacation on this one without ever stepping into a court room.


But that's just what I think....
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AGREE 100% and if the guys in red-t's work for the place.. then he now owns a pool room...
 
And some wonder why pool has a bad image & can't get 'real' money from TV networks, etc, etc. & why parents don't even want their 18,19, 20, etc. year olds going to pool halls.

That guy should have a 'Banned' poster of him e-mailed, faxed, snail mailed, hand delivered etc. to every pool hall in America.

Until the good people of the game clean it up, the 'public' image will stay in the gutter with the people that take it down there with them.
 
I will be very happy to cross this one off the list...
oh forgot to tell ya the guy that was sucker punched pulled out his 40cal. and took him out ,this is the new norm today be careful who u f with!!!
 
The big guy who is wearing the red shirt and leaning back on the pool table at the beginning of the video is the same one who 'assists' the injured fellow away from there at the end. If he's an employee, he should be canned for egging it on rather than stepping in to prevent it.

Whatever the issue was between these guys, there obviously was some heat and the puncher is clearly heard warning the other guy about putting his hands on him.

The guy with his hands behind his back seems to be getting in the puncher's personal space and jawing with him pretty good and then he brings his hands down to his side and if you look at his right hand, you will see, unequivocally, he makes a fist and his accompanying body language looks like he might be getting ready to go (moving toward the puncher).

The boxer wasn't having it.

There were a few references on this thread about the injured guy extending his hand for a handshake only to be sucker punched.

Can anyone tell me where in this video that occurred?

All I saw was his hands behind his back then him balling up his right hand into a fist as he moved forward. No handshake attempt.

The knuckleheads in the room were obviously just looking for some cheap entertainment and they got it. :rolleyes:

best,
brian kc

It was the puncher who extended his hand.
 
There were a few references on this thread about the injured guy extending his hand for a handshake only to be sucker punched.

Can anyone tell me where in this video that occurred?

All I saw was his hands behind his back then him balling up his right hand into a fist as he moved forward. No handshake attempt.

No, they were saying that the puncher offered a handshake and then hit instead. But that was slightly incorrect.

Cue it to 35sec and it happens at 38 sec- the puncher extends his empty left hand out, palm up, as if handing something over. He even moves his head down and looks at his own palm as though to get the other guy to look at the empty palm, too (punchee does not look down).

Then, while faking all attention to his left palm, puncher leans back slightly with the right shoulder and arm to get momentum, and only just before striking with his right does he look back at punchee's face for aim.

Somewhat similarly, I am focusing attention on puncher and his actions because the entire room's behavior makes my heart and stomach hurt the most.
 
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It was the puncher who extended his hand.

Hi Lee;

I don't think he was extending his hand to offer a handshake. It was the wrong hand.

Looked to me more like it was the puncher's body language as if to say, 'wtf, are you really coming toward me with a fist?'

The small guy really never stood a chance and he went ahead and pushed too far.

Clearly, the puncher could have ended it without throwing a punch but between the little guy agressing, and the idiots antagonizing the situation, he got caught up in the moment.

best,
brian kc
 
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The only good thing

The only good thing I see in the video is that the place was packed. Glad to see the place is making money. Don't know if is packed with the kind of people he wants but it had more people than I've seen lately at the places I go.
 
No, they were saying that the puncher offered a handshake and then hit instead. But that was slightly incorrect.

Cue it to 35sec and it happens at 38 sec- the puncher extends his empty left hand out, palm up, as if handing something over. He even moves his head down and looks at his own palm as though to get the other guy to look at the empty palm, too (punchee does not look down).

Then, while faking all attention to his left palm, puncher leans back slightly with the right shoulder and arm to get momentum, and only just before striking with his right does he look back at punchee's face for aim.

Somewhat similarly, I am focusing attention on puncher and his actions because the entire room's behavior makes my heart and stomach hurt the most.

While that could be the case, I truly think the puncher just put his left hand out as if to say, 'what in the hell; are you really coming at me?'

Not a distraction technique though it def could have had the same result.

best,
brian kc
 
This was the result of 4 straight days of constant badgering, belittling and disrespect to most of the peopple that were standing around in that video especially to man who punched. The guy who got punched was warned by the first guy in the grey and then multiple times that night by the man who punched him.

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While that could be the case, I truly think the puncher just put his left hand out as if to say, 'what in the hell; are you really coming at me?'

Not a distraction technique though it def could have had the same result.

best,
brian kc

At 27 puncher backs up and shakes his head slightly. He's now realizing that this can't end in words. By 29 he has made his decision to hit and has become still. That's the real dangerous moment- the stillness.

We can agree to disagree.
 
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