BPG24 said:
BP,
The numbers being discussed so far are 500 in the world, and 100 in Florida. We have seen no lists from backers with cash. I suspect no one with money feels it is a good wager.
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BP,
The numbers being discussed so far are 500 in the world, and 100 in Florida. We have seen no lists from backers with cash. I suspect no one with money feels it is a good wager.
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Williebetmore said:
I have been saying 100 in the world, the whole time. Not just this thread but in every thread about this same thing.
I have also said it MUST be a long race.
Some people are calling me crazy because they think Allison/Karen would beat many of the top 100 men. I disagree with them wholeheartedly
I have no idea how 500 came up, but there are a bunch of AZers who think 100 in the world is too many.
BPG24 said:
BP,
The number 500 was the topic of discussion by the initiator of this thread (see first post in thread). While everyone is entitled to their opinion, he was fairly strident in ridiculing those with opposing opinions (and so far has not been willing to risk any cash on his opinion in contrast to JB).
If you are interested, the Action Report guys may be interested in televising a match if you come up with the 10 grand and a list. We'll have no trouble raising 10 grand on Allison (of course, convincing her to play would be a different story
). I'm sure that the top 100 men in the world all have a chance to beat her; I'm not convinced about the top 500.
the whole general list discussion is arbitrary and most likely will never be proven right or wrong one way or the other. I think that the number of people in the world that will consistently beat Kelly or Allison or Karen in a long ahead set lies somewhere between 250-500. I can name probably 100 or so in the US off the top of my head. Also, where in the thread did anyone mention making a list for someone to pick from and bet 10K? I must have missed that. I thought the game in question over the last few pages was Brian vs. Kelly Fisher. If anyone wants a five figure piece of that in a 20 ahead set then PM me and we can escrow it. I feel certain that we can get this down within hours if someone likes Kelly.
JB Cases said:
Well, you think Kelly is the favorite over Brian, why don't you give him the 7 ball LOCK ARTIST??? Do you know how ignorant you sound on here?
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Williebetmore said:BP,
The number 500 was the topic of discussion by the initiator of this thread (see first post in thread). While everyone is entitled to their opinion, he was fairly strident in ridiculing those with opposing opinions (and so far has not been willing to risk any cash on his opinion in contrast to JB).
If you are interested, the Action Report guys may be interested in televising a match if you come up with the 10 grand and a list. We'll have no trouble raising 10 grand on Allison (of course, convincing her to play would be a different story
Why would I come up with 10k and a list? I said I believe the number is at least 100. Not 500. No one is gonna get 500 men together to play Allison, and even if they did, Allison doesn't gamble.. So what is the point?
My thing is, I don't understand how people think that there are less than 100 men that can beat Allison or whoever. maybe it's due them them not understanding the situation. i don't know.
BPG24 said:
some of the people on here only see the players that are at the biggest tournaments and narrow that down to being the 50-100 best players and the only ones that can play I guess. They don't understand that there are hundreds of players that play A speed that hardly ever play in tournaments or only regional tournaments. I just spoke to Brian and he is at the hospital having his second child (congrats) but he said that some guy named Brady (whom I had never heard of and I know a lot of pool players) beat Kelly in a 8 or 9 ahead set. I dont think people realize just how many good players are out there and the disparity between the sexes. It's like I said in an earlier post, I can shoot under par from 6200 yards and there are thousands of people in the US that can beat me at golf, maybe closer to 10,000. Just think about that for a minute. If I can shoot par on a course comparable to that the ladies tour plays on, then think about the disparity between the two tours. It's overwhelming , and its the same in pool.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=82295 In this thread are 117 names in the U.S. I am not saying I would back every one of them, but certainly most. Also add the following 34 names of which I would wager on every one (and I am sure there are countless others worldwide that I have never seen):
Alcano
Appleton
Bustamante
Chamat
Chang
Chao
Chen
Crosby
De Luna
Drago
Engert
Fiejen
Foldes
Gabica
Hohmann
Hundal
Immonen
Kiamco
Kuo
Luat
Manalo
Orcullo
Ortmann
Pagulayan
Reyes
Saez
Sambajon
Salvas
San Souci
Souqet
Van Corteza
Van Den Berg
Wu
Yang
Alcano
Appleton
Bustamante
Chamat
Chang
Chao
Chen
Crosby
De Luna
Drago
Engert
Fiejen
Foldes
Gabica
Hohmann
Hundal
Immonen
Kiamco
Kuo
Luat
Manalo
Orcullo
Ortmann
Pagulayan
Reyes
Saez
Sambajon
Salvas
San Souci
Souqet
Van Corteza
Van Den Berg
Wu
Yang
crawfish said:
yeah, he has to be able to play to beat Kelly, but thats what I'm saying. A guy from Charlotte that most haven't heard of outside the region and that I myself haven't heard of beats her in a 9 ahead set.
iba7467 said:
Iba, impressive list. Those are only the 150 most well known with another 50 that we could name if we thought about it. Add to that a couple of hundred that play Bruce Berrongs speed and then add another couple of hundred that play just below Bruce that would still be the favorite over her. Its astonishing to think about the number of good players out there and I think that is what the naysayers here are missing.
That's what I was thinking as well.jayburger said:
Well, I am truly sorry if I got such a shit storm started. I was simply trying to defend all the great players out there. For the record, I think that there are many great woman players out there. I was just simply trying to convey how many unbelievable male players there are.
Riggs bet a ton of money on Billy Jean and he previous beat the womens #1 player in the world just before that. So I guess there is dumping in tennis too.
B_White said:
Enough of this which gender B*&%$@#T already. Let the stick and the play do the talking. SHUT UP AND SHOOT! I don't care if you're a man, woman, dog, cat, martian or whatever specie or sb-specie you come form. If you gotta prove a point, step up and let your shooting do the talking. I'm tired of hearing all these hypotheticals. If you want to prove something, don't talk, whine, brag or whatever, JUST DO IT AND LET YOUR GAME DO THE TALKING! PERIOD!