One pocket table with only two 4" corner pockets?

IMHO, this creates a similar but different game. It would virtually eliminate pocket scratches. Avoiding up-table cueball scratches is often a big deal. One unintended scratch can be the difference between winning and loosing. Additionally, I'm sure there are other stategic issues that would be affected.

The game this idea produces is most certainly different but is it better?
 
rikdee said:
IMHO, this creates a similar but different game. It would virtually eliminate pocket scratches. Avoiding up-table cueball scratches is often a big deal. One unintended scratch can be the difference between winning and loosing. Additionally, I'm sure there are other stategic issues that would be affected.

The game this idea produces is most certainly different but is it better?


You've all lost your minds!
 
Why do they call it a one pocket table when I see two pockets???

Seriously, I have played on a table like this before when I was on the road many years ago. Somewhere in the South, don't remember where.
The game was so different that I found myself losing to some fairly weak players. Its a good thing they had some regular tables there also. I got in a trap but was lucky to escape with the regular tables.
 
Novelty

This would be like designing a golf course with no sand traps or water hazards and big, open fairways...diminished skill and strategy in my opionion.

Although, I see in a certain novelty in the ability for more aggressive multi-rail banks.

R.S.
 
rikdee said:
IMHO, this creates a similar but different game. It would virtually eliminate pocket scratches. Avoiding up-table cueball scratches is often a big deal. One unintended scratch can be the difference between winning and loosing. Additionally, I'm sure there are other stategic issues that would be affected.

The game this idea produces is most certainly different but is it better?
Hey rikdee, I'll be in Florida sometime later this month, don't know where as of yet, but I'll be there:D To answer your question of "better". I don't think I'd choose that word to describe what I'd like to do. I think "different", "quicker", "mulit use table" "challenging" would be more of the words I'd have in mind:D

Glen
 
dabarbr said:
Why do they call it a one pocket table when I see two pockets???

Seriously, I have played on a table like this before when I was on the road many years ago. Somewhere in the South, don't remember where.
The game was so different that I found myself losing to some fairly weak players. Its a good thing they had some regular tables there also. I got in a trap but was lucky to escape with the regular tables.
hmmm...did the weaker players out bank you?:D

Glen
 
RichZuHaus said:
This would be like designing a golf course with no sand traps or water hazards and big, open fairways...diminished skill and strategy in my opionion.

Although, I see in a certain novelty in the ability for more aggressive multi-rail banks.

R.S.
Mini golf is alive and doing well:D but I think you're right, the banks would certainly be open to new creativity;) Traps is what slows down playing one pocket, kind of like watching grass grow:D I'd like to see more aggressive playing, and I think the cross breed between 3C and pocket pool would do just that. For a room owner, I think it would be a main attraction to come and play on a 2 pocket table, separating them from those who don't have the tables to be able to switch back and forth;) And like I said, with the possibility of "renting" additional rails for promoted tournaments, it would provide the ability of a complete change over for a one pocket tournament without changing tables, then the ability to change back again, as less and less tables were needed in the finals, therefore going back to playing 9 ball or what ever else. Hey, maybe even a duel tournament on the same weekend:D 9 ball first, then one pocket;)

Glen
 
Ltldebbie said:
You know I live in the Northwest. I am dying to see it and play on it. Let my know where the first one is. I'm still thinking & dreaming. I may have a real opinion by tomorrow.
The Golden Fleece.."Russian Dave's" is one of the first on the list of locations;)

Glen
 
pocket insert

would it be possible to make two pocket inserts and convert this two pocket table to a billiard table?
 
desi2960 said:
would it be possible to make two pocket inserts and convert this two pocket table to a billiard table?
A few problems with that is that nose of the cushions really need to be a little higher for playing 3C, and the cloth needs to really be changed to a billiards cloth, as I can't really see playing 3C on Simonis 860, it's way to slow;)

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
hmmm...did the weaker players out bank you?:D

Glen
No. Very few players outbanked me in those days. When I said weaker I didn't mean helpless. I meant giving up weight to players that I felt I could beat but had a hard time overcoming the spots. I do recall enjoying the fact that I could make banks that were never possible for me before. Banks like coming out of the corner and banking balls to where the side pockets normally would be.

One of the biggest problem that I recall was the inability to bring balls back up table to the spot position. Also they were adept at shooting balls that I was not used to because of the scratch that was usually there. The fact was that I missed having those extra pockets on the table.

I was there for a few days and yes I felt that eventually I would get used to it but I wound up going to the regular tables.

I do believe this type of table would be great for one pocket once the players get used to it.

P.S. I like your table work from the pictures I've seen.
 
one pocket table

If they build a table with just one corner pocket I might try someone some with the breaks..............
 
realkingcobra said:
Just thought I'd ask for opinions about a 9ft Diamond ProAm with only two 4" corner pockets, no side or head pockets, just for playing one pocket. When I get back to the factory, I'm going to put together a set of one pocket rails for a 9ft Diamond ProAm in Washington State at Dave's place. The rails are going to be a cross breed between 3 cushion and pocket pool. I know it'll change the game strategies quit a bit, but I do believe it'll open the game up to many more shots involving multi rail banks, without the fear of scratching, and at the same time turn one pocket into more of an offensive game, instead of mostly defensive, making for more quicker games, what's you're take on this? I've been wanting to build a set of rails like this since 1983, back when I first started building pool tables, but never really had the chance to, so now I have the chance when I get back east.

Glen

It would be a different game altogether. It completely changes the game as we know it, and the game will be more offense oriented with the pockets removed. IMO
 
dabarbr said:
No. Very few players outbanked me in those days. When I said weaker I didn't mean helpless. I meant giving up weight to players that I felt I could beat but had a hard time overcoming the spots. I do recall enjoying the fact that I could make banks that were never possible for me before. Banks like coming out of the corner and banking balls to where the side pockets normally would be.

One of the biggest problem that I recall was the inability to bring balls back up table to the spot position. Also they were adept at shooting balls that I was not used to because of the scratch that was usually there. The fact was that I missed having those extra pockets on the table.

I was there for a few days and yes I felt that eventually I would get used to it but I wound up going to the regular tables.

I do believe this type of table would be great for one pocket once the players get used to it.

P.S. I like your table work from the pictures I've seen.
Well, thank you sir:D

Glen
 
They have had tables like these in Joplin, MO for probably 30+ years. I went to college there and that was the first exposure I had to One Pocket and this was before I was interested in pool. It wasn't until I moved back to St. Louis after school that I got into pool and realized that they were playing their own version of one pocket becaused they used the 2 pockets on the head rail instead of the foot rail. I can not verify it, but I was told that years ago, Matlock came through there and was beat up pretty good by the locals at this game because it was nothing like he was used to. The second part of that story was that he came back through about 6 months later and in a very short time, ran out of action because the locals realized he had learned how to play that particular game.
 
Stew_Pidaso said:
They have had tables like these in Joplin, MO for probably 30+ years. I went to college there and that was the first exposure I had to One Pocket and this was before I was interested in pool. It wasn't until I moved back to St. Louis after school that I got into pool and realized that they were playing their own version of one pocket becaused they used the 2 pockets on the head rail instead of the foot rail. I can not verify it, but I was told that years ago, Matlock came through there and was beat up pretty good by the locals at this game because it was nothing like he was used to. The second part of that story was that he came back through about 6 months later and in a very short time, ran out of action because the locals realized he had learned how to play that particular game.
When Gabe Owens pocketed 60 out of a possible 75 balls playing one pocket break and run, he was only using ONE pocket on the table;)

Glen
 
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