One Shaft or Two

Dr_CollieCue said:
When you buy a cue, do you get a second shaft and why?
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I always buy two shafts. I've only bought custom cues from people who were top notch and only bought top quality production cues, but I know one shaft will always be favored over the other one. This allows me to use the preferred one primary and the other secondary, which may never be used sometimes. If I ever sold the cue, it would be much easier to sell with an almost new original shaft.

And if you ever ruined a shaft and had another one made, you have the original ringwork that could be put on the new shaft.
 
Dr_CollieCue...Most better cues come with two shafts, and have for decades. Normally it's so that if you lose a tip in competition you have a backup shaft. I always have played with both shafts pretty equally, since I never cared about the "aftermarket" value (but I understand the idea of keeping one new, if you plan to sell the cue later). See you in a few weeks! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
I have several players with 5 or 6 shafts. After playing with them and sanding on them and experimenting with them you find you like this one and not that one and so on. Shafts are a cost of doing billiards...
 
I only use one my self I always thought it was kinda funny when I play someone that swaps out shafts every couple shots lol :thumbup:
 
I use a one piece cue so I'd be pretty screwed if my tip came off in a match. My break cue on the other hand...i use 3 shafts, all from different companies. Each breaks differently on the same butt and I swap them depending on how I'm breaking, or how the table is breaking. Makes sense to have at least 1 spare for your playing cue. I've been screwed over in a match before because my tip flew off and had nothing else to play with.
 
I do two shafts and usually only shoot with my second shaft when having tip replacement on # 1 as where we live, we do not have a person who does cue work real close and it takes a few days to get our shaft back. Thankfully, we have the person we do who does great work though. However, driving 120 miles round trip to someone else just is a waste of fuel also.
 
I like to have two shafts but tend to only play with one. When getting a custom cue I'll alays want two shafts. With my Schon I have one Wchon shaft and then my Jacoby Hybrid Edge. Not an ideal situation as they play so different, but it's fine for now.
 
If you ever had a tip come off in a tournament match or a money game you'd be glad you had two shafts. Originally, or so I was told, players had two shafts, one for Straight Pool and one for 9 ball. I never saw the need to play different shafts in different games so I didn't pay any attention to that. The one exception would be Snooker, when I've tried to use a smaller shaft due to the smaller balls. I've had two shafts on all my custom cues and most of the production cues I've owned at one time or another. I play with both shafts equally and always have. The thing about keeping one shaft un-played as a selling point is a myth. I've never had any problem selling a cue with both shafts used. I would seldom consider buying a used cue with a shaft that hadn't been played with. Having an extra shaft is a selling point, just not necessarily unused.
Over the years I also noticed that my fingers might swell a bit depending on my sodium intake and if one shaft was a bit smaller it might fit my bridge hand better.
 
I prefer 2 shafts.
I tried to get 2 that were as near to identical as possible (not always easy with a natural thing like wood).
I alternate between the 2 so they both get roughly equal wear.
....also my playing cue, break cue & jump cue all have the same joint type so everything is interchangeable if I needed it to be.
 
Busboy said:
I only use one my self I always thought it was kinda funny when I play someone that swaps out shafts every couple shots lol :thumbup:
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Why not? :shocked2:

I do have to use several shafts, cause my cuemaker has built me some special ones:
1st for stop shots
2nd for follow shots
3rd for draw shots
4th for left english
5th for right english

Now I found out, I will need 4 more:
for high right, high left, low right and low left... :killingme::rotflmao1:
 
playdoubles said:
Why not? :shocked2:

I do have to use several shafts, cause my cuemaker has built me some special ones:
1st for stop shots
2nd for follow shots
3rd for draw shots
4th for left english
5th for right english

Now I found out, I will need 4 more:
for high right, high left, low right and low left... :killingme::rotflmao1:
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You might as well go the all hog and get one for masse/serve shots at the same time.:thumbup:
 
I'm not sure what the members have experienced but for me I find it rare that any two shafts for one cue hit very close to the same. In many years of playing I've only had two cues with truly matching shafts. To the point where I could not tell them apart.

First was a Schon factory shaft from the 1980's and it's twin was a Toeboy shaft I found in a pawn shop that had a broken tenon. I took it over to Toeboys and after he bored out the broken tenon and re-ferruled it I be damned that it felt exactly like my favorite Schon shaft. Still have the Toeboy shaft but the Schon cue is long gone.

Second was a new pair of shafts I had Joey Gold make about 7 years ago for my Cog player. I asked him to make them hit identical and again I'll be damned that he was able to do it.

That's all I have to say about that...
 
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On the quality cues, most come with two shafts.
When I get a new cue I always ask that both be identical.
Same diameter and same tip and taper.
That way if something happens to one it's easy and quick to adjust to the other.
 
I like to have one shaft that I play with and two additional unused or minimally used for collecting purposes. I use a silver ring Runde on my Schon Butt and will use it on my fancy Runde even though it doesn't match the ring work. I am amazed at how well a 13mm, 4.25oz, original micarta shaft built by Bob hits. If the Ash shaft PFD is building for me hits as well or better I'm not sure what i will do. Would be a great problem to have.

PS. As a dealer for several Wisconsin Cue "production" Builders (majority of AZ'ers term, not mine) I think all Jacoby, Pechauer, and Schon cues $1000 or more should only be sold with two shafts personally. I also do not understand why Jacoby will sell a cue with one LD shaft and one Maple. Obviously Jacoby is very successful so they must know more than me.
 
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That's not that unusual Tom. My new Kent Davis cue has two shafts, one LD, and one normal maple (what I call good wood! LOL). I can play at will with either shaft (LD or normal) at will, and it doesn't change my stroke. The "feel" may be slightly different, but the swing remains the same. That's the foundation behind SPF. :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Shooter08 said:
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As a dealer for several Wisconsin Cue "production" Builders (majority of AZ'ers term, not mine) I think all Jacoby, Pechauer, and Schon cues $1000 or more should only be sold with two shafts personally. I also do not understand why Jacoby will sell a cue with one LD shaft and one Maple. Obviously Jacoby is very successful so they must know more than me.
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Not to be a nut hugger, the truth is the truth

Scott Lee said:
That's not that unusual Tom. My new Kent Davis cue has two shafts, one LD, and one normal maple (what I call good wood! LOL). I can play at will with either shaft (LD or normal) at will, and it doesn't change my stroke. The "feel" may be slightly different, but the swing remains the same. That's the foundation behind SPF. :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Scott,

I really have not used anything you showed me out of shear laziness, and lack of time, other than just getting my stroke measured correctly and the table speed trick. These two things have improved my game to justify the cost of the lesson. Last Thursday another player I really respect, asked my teammates what kind of medicine they gave me, he said he never seen me shoot so good. THx Scott, I'll see you soon in Madison.
 
I have a Runde Schon on it's way. It has two shafts. My questions is does it make sense to have multiple shafts with different tips? For different tables?

I was thinking of adding a third shaft. I would have a hard tipped (Triangle), a medium tipped (Moori) and a soft tipped (Kamui) shafts, for different cloth speeds and playability.
 
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