Out of curiousity...

bsmutz

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I was watching the Kunihiko Takahashi/Roger Griffis semifinal from the 1998 Challenge of Champions the other night. I noticed that Takahashi had almost constant facial tics and spasms, including one that caused his eyes to close. My question is (if there is anyone out there that knows), are these tics/spasms controllable with concentration or do you have to work with them when aiming and shooting (or any other activity, for that matter)? I assume they are uncontrollable when no conscious attention is paid to them. During the shots where they showed Takahashi's face while lining up and stroking the shot, I didn't notice any of the movement I saw when they showed him standing by his chair, hence the question. I may be able to discern more tonight when I see the final.
 
bsmutz said:
I was watching the Kunihiko Takahashi/Roger Griffis semifinal from the 1998 Challenge of Champions the other night. I noticed that Takahashi had almost constant facial tics and spasms, including one that caused his eyes to close. My question is (if there is anyone out there that knows), are these tics/spasms controllable with concentration or do you have to work with them when aiming and shooting (or any other activity, for that matter)? I assume they are uncontrollable when no conscious attention is paid to them. During the shots where they showed Takahashi's face while lining up and stroking the shot, I didn't notice any of the movement I saw when they showed him standing by his chair, hence the question. I may be able to discern more tonight when I see the final.

Takahashi's facial ticks are not caused by Bellspalsy or some disease from what I've gathered. He started playing pool at age 17 and was involved in a fall sometime later that caused a pretty severe head injury that healed but those facial jerks are the remnants of that injury.
Did you know that despite that jerkiness, Kunihiko still was able to win the 1998 World 9 Ball Championship?

Rudolpho Luat, the 1996 World 9 Ball Champion, has a similar type tick with his eyes. He squeezes them shut real time for a 1/2 second or so every once in a while, but it seems exacerbated when he's being interviewed or is aware that a camera is on him. I'm no doctor, but I suspect his is just a nervous habit.

Nick Varner, one of the greatest cueists ever has a twitch in his stroking hand / arm that has been captured several times on tape. Despite that, he missed about as often as Haley's Comet comes around. And won world championships in 8 ball, 9 ball, 9 ball banks, one pocket and 14.1!

Michael Coltrain had a different ailment altogether from the guys already mentioned. His nervous condition caused him to have to retire early, which, beyond being a personal hardship for him and his family to endure, also robbed the U.S. pool fans of a really strong talent. I don't remember what the medical term was for his disease, but it was an inherited nervous disorder that caused enough shaking in his arm that he had to shut down his very promising pro career.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
...Nick Varner, one of the greatest cueists ever has a twitch in his stroking hand / arm that has been captured several times on tape. Despite that, he missed about as often as Haley's Comet comes around. And won world championships in 8 ball, 9 ball, 9 ball banks, one pocket and 14.1!...

How the hell did he do that? :shrug:
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Nick Varner, one of the greatest cueists ever has a twitch in his stroking hand / arm that has been captured several times on tape. Despite that, he missed about as often as Haley's Comet comes around. And won world championships in 8 ball, 9 ball, 9 ball banks, one pocket and 14.1!

When I played Varner in the first round of the World Summit back in 2002, I noticed the same thing. It had no effect on how he beat the crap out of me.
 
So it sounds like these people are able to play in spite of the spasms rather than concentrating to eliminate them at crucial moments.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Michael Coltrain had a different ailment altogether from the guys already mentioned. His nervous condition caused him to have to retire early, which, beyond being a personal hardship for him and his family to endure, also robbed the U.S. pool fans of a really strong talent. I don't remember what the medical term was for his disease, but it was an inherited nervous disorder that caused enough shaking in his arm that he had to shut down his very promising pro career.

Nice post.

Shame about Michael. I remember seeing some clips of him in the Mosconi Cup and wondering why I had never heard of him.
 
worriedbeef said:
Nice post.

Shame about Michael. I remember seeing some clips of him in the Mosconi Cup and wondering why I had never heard of him.


Michael won a Jr 9 ball Championship at my old room in the late 80`s,
it was a pleasure to watch him play. Smooth and deliberate.
Corey won 2nd place, I believe he was 15 then, and very strong then.

highrun55
 
bsmutz said:
So it sounds like these people are able to play in spite of the spasms rather than concentrating to eliminate them at crucial moments.



Not sure about the facial ticks, but for those with the arm tremors it quite possibly is what they call a 'familial' or 'essential' tremor. If your parents have it there is a good chance you will too. Kudos to all those who can play with it and especially at the pro level. It makes the game exponentially more difficult!!

Alcohol does help to mitigate symptoms for many. Hard to balance substances of any form though.

td
 
Here's how I achieve balance.

grindz said:
Alcohol does help to mitigate symptoms for many. Hard to balance substances of any form though.

td

I keep a full beer in each hand!:D
 
Ed Simmons said:
I keep a full beer in each hand!:D

Big Bill Werbeniuk drank a pint a frame to combat his familial benign essential tremor when he was playing pro snooker. His doctor eventually prescribed beta blockers, but as they were on the banned substance list his fines mounted and he had to quit the circuit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Werbeniuk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/snooker/2953641.stm

Bill forged the way for Canadian professional snooker players. May he rest in peace.

Dave
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Nick Varner, one of the greatest cueists ever has a twitch in his stroking hand / arm that has been captured several times on tape. Despite that, he missed about as often as Haley's Comet comes around. And won world championships in 8 ball, 9 ball, 9 ball banks, one pocket and 14.1!


Yeah, Nick's arm shakes so bad I'm surprised he can even make a ball, but he shoots right up there with the best of 'em......shit, he is one of the best of 'em.
MULLY
almost looks like he has Parkinson's of the forearm
 
One of my favorite players to watch Stevie Moore back arm shakes as he shoots. I think someone has mentioned what his specific condition was, but I hope it doesn't get worse, I try to pattern my game after him, and it would be a shame to let something like that get in the way of his career.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Michael Coltrain had a different ailment altogether from the guys already mentioned. His nervous condition caused him to have to retire early, which, beyond being a personal hardship for him and his family to endure, also robbed the U.S. pool fans of a really strong talent. I don't remember what the medical term was for his disease, but it was an inherited nervous disorder that caused enough shaking in his arm that he had to shut down his very promising pro career.

That's too bad. I have a good video of Michael playing Souquet. He was playing pretty sporty but ended up getting edged out in the end. He sure looked like he had an amazing future ahead of him in the sport.
 
bsmutz said:
So it sounds like these people are able to play in spite of the spasms rather than concentrating to eliminate them at crucial moments.


In fact, it's beginning to sound like I need to pound my head into a cement wall until I develop one of my own. :speechless:
 
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