Over-priced Cues - your opinion please!

hdgis1 said:
Not really...




I expected I would get a cue that played at least as well as the one I used to own. I guess I also erroneously expected it to be built right. I'd tell someone who wouldnt spend $100 they are missing out on using a good playing cue.
Many would say the exact same thing to you about a $1500 cue. Who is to say who is right? You saying it about a $100 cue, OR someone telling you about a $1500 cue?


At some point buying a cue is no longer about how well it plays.


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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

I think we have finally made some progress! This is what I have been getting at all along!! I really hope that you ARE getting something more than just a stick to pocket a ball with if you are spending even $500! If you want pure function, DO NOT SPEND MORE THAN $100. I do not know of a single reason a good player cannot run out racks with a $100 cue. If you do, please let me know.

Now back to the original question. You have finally answered your own question. People are spending their money for SOMETHING MORE than a cue to hit balls with. And they ARE getting what they pay for. If you do not hold the same value on these things, then by all means do NOT buy one.

There is something to be said for pride of ownership. The satisfaction you get every time you pull it out of your case. The fact that you will not run into 5 other people who have the same exact model! These things DO have value!

I am about to be 34 years old. I have played pool for many years. I expect to continue to play pool for as long as I am still alive, have my vision , and am able to walk.

If I buy a $2000 cue today, think about how many hours of enjoyment I will get out of that cue over the years. If you work it out, IT IS PENNIES per hour to really own something that I enjoy greatly. It will end up costing LESS than what I will be paying to rent the table for the same time over the years. At the end of the day IT IS A VERY CHEAP investment in a game that I love.

The SAME people who will tell you that pool is 90% mental will ALSO tell you that having a nice cue won't help your game! I think that is a bit of a contradiction. If it is such a mental game, then why wouldn't having a special cue that gives you a bit of a boost help? If it instills more confidence in you every time you pick it up, how can it be bad?

I am NOT saying it will give you knowledge or skill. I AM saying that if you think it helps you, it just may give you a little bit of an edge.

But really, I have NEVER felt cheated when buying any cue. If you have, then you need to rexamine what is important to you in a cue, and buy that! Just don't knock others for doing the same.


Jw
 
Yes but with one exception....

hdgis1 said:
Not really...




I expected I would get a cue that played at least as well as the one I used to own. I guess I also erroneously expected it to be built right. I'd tell someone who wouldnt spend $100 they are missing out on using a good playing cue.



There is. But only to a certian extent. Using your ratio's - Does a $400 cue play better than a $30 cue? Does a $5,333 cue play better than a $400 cue? How about a $69,333? Think it plays better than the $5333 cue? At some point buying a cue is no longer about how well it plays.



Quite right. But the factors that determine market value are both quantitative and qualitative.
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There are 400 dollar cues that play better than 1200 dollar cues and there are 10000 dollar cues that play better than some 400 dollar cues.

You had an original poser though....

Why does a similar cue, with similar materials differ in cost and do they play that much better.

The real answer is that people "believe" that they play or look or are just made better or they wouldn't be willing to pay the extra.

The reality is also that, the cuemakers that demand the higher price have continuously shown (often times to the right people as well) that they have better consistency and or playability and or customer service in order to demand the higher price.

So the answer to your question is, Yes,,,,,, No,,,,,, and maybe so, but the fact still remains that they demand the higher price.

Is a Rolls better than a Chrysler 300?

They look similar, have similar comfort, but someone obviously thinks that a rolls is worth 200,000 dollars more.

Is the 200,000, dollar difference justified????

Of course it is, or it wouldn't be paid, but the answer to that is that it is justified not necesarily on performance, comfort, quality of craftsmanship, etc...

It is justified by the willingness of the person purchasing it to pay the extra money to get it.

Jaden
 
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kvinbrwr said:
Scott

I'm thinking the OP is looking to slam someone so I'll weigh in before it gets ugly.

Son of god - Barry S. a sometimes poster who is way to smart too weigh in on discussions.

New god - Dennis Searing

Sat at the right hand of god -would be Joel, although I'm sure if he is a member or not.

False gods - Eddie Wheat or Kevin Varney depending

among non-forum members:

Buddha - Tad

Columbian god (as opposed to a pre-Columbian god) - Ernie

Kevin
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Now to work on the list of Cuemaker Demi-Gods...
Nicely done on the list!
 
hdgis1 said:
All things being equal - Why does one cue maker get away with charging "$2600 for a joint and a signature" and another barely makes enough to pay for materials?

Furthermore, when one pays for a cue, should they then expect that cue to be what they were expecting? Overpriced or not. Playing cue or collecting cue. (Funny there is even a distinction) Does the consumer have the right to be honked off when their expectations are not met?

Tell me what you think. Though watch out for the cue making god on this forum. He may take offense...
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If you are expecting a magic wand it doesn't exist. If you told the cue maker to make it to "your specs" and it was made that way but plays like a POS then it is your fault because maybe your specs are off.

Another way to look at it is you go out with some plain average female. Don't spend much money on her but everthing is great in fact it is wonderful. Now you make a play for a fabulous hot sexy thing. You go out, spend a lot of money, and find out what a dud she is. She didn't really meet your expectations. Do you have a right to be honk off because your expectations haven't been met? Both are working with the same materials. Pretty soon word gets out and one of them will start being in demand and the price of the date starts going up while the other sits home.
 
TheBook said:
If you are expecting a magic wand it doesn't exist. If you told the cue maker to make it to "your specs" and it was made that way but plays like a POS then it is your fault because maybe your specs are off.

Another way to look at it is you go out with some plain average female. Don't spend much money on her but everthing is great in fact it is wonderful. Now you make a play for a fabulous hot sexy thing. You go out, spend a lot of money, and find out what a dud she is. She didn't really meet your expectations. Do you have a right to be honk off because your expectations haven't been met? Both are working with the same materials. Pretty soon word gets out and one of them will start being in demand and the price of the date starts going up while the other sits home.
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I understand what your saying but not a good analogy Lets put this to bed.
 
My cues have a vast range of dollars paid for and actual worth, but they are mine and my choices....

"Some girls don't like boys like me, ahhh, but some girls do..."
 
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