Pattern racking?

Baxter

Baxter

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Anyone know anything about this? I know that you can pattern rack 9-ball and 10-ball, but don't know a whole lot about it, and figure it would probably be a good thing to get a grasp on. Also, can you pattern rack 8-ball? I don't think I've ever seen that done, or just didn't know it. Thanks.
 
If there is a certain spot you like to break from, rack up 9 ball or 10 ball (with the same pattern) and break 10-15 times. Each time, write down exactly where each ball is after the break. See if you can see a similar layout, you will see how you need to rack the balls.
 
Pattern racking is racking 9 Ball or 10 Ball in the same order everytime. You control the balls better HOWEVER IT'S ILLEGAL IN TOURNAMENET PLAY. The rules say you must rack the balls ramdomly (except the 1 and 9) in 9 Ball.
 
For 8 ball, if your opponent is racking loose all the time.... break with a medium speed and the rack will spread like a tight rack with a hard break.
This is something I do all the time, I can tell from the head string if it's tight or not.
 
TWOFORPOOL said:
HOWEVER IT'S ILLEGAL IN TOURNAMENET PLAY. The rules say you must rack the balls ramdomly (except the 1 and 9) in 9 Ball.
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Yep, so learn your pattern/patterns and switch them up if people start to cry about it.
 
I was watching Corey Deuel vs. John Schmidt 10-ball a couple days ago, and Corey was racking the same pattern every rack and soft-breaking either of the two balls behind the headball into one of the side pockets every break. I copied down his pattern and break position, and am going to try and see if I can achieve similar results next practice session.
 
Pattern Racking

Baxter said:
Anyone know anything about this? I know that you can pattern rack 9-ball and 10-ball, but don't know a whole lot about it, and figure it would probably be a good thing to get a grasp on. Also, can you pattern rack 8-ball? I don't think I've ever seen that done, or just didn't know it. Thanks.
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The subject pattern racking has been talked about alot here on AZB, you can use your search feature and find many threads and posts on the subject, hope this helps.


David Harcrow
 
Some tournaments may require certain balls to be in certain spots such as the one at the apex, 10 in the middle and 2 and 3 at the corners in 10 ball, all other balls at random.

Most 8 ball rules require the 8 in the middle and one stripe and one solid in the rear corners. The one ball does not have to be at the apex. All other balls to be placed at random. Alternating balls would be considered pattern racking as the balls are not being placed at random but in a pattern.

"The Great Break Shot" by Charley Bond is about the best on racking and breaking.
 
Baxter said:
Anyone know anything about this? I know that you can pattern rack 9-ball and 10-ball, but don't know a whole lot about it, and figure it would probably be a good thing to get a grasp on. Also, can you pattern rack 8-ball? I don't think I've ever seen that done, or just didn't know it. Thanks.
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Our own Dr Dave has free videos of it on his website . In one of the veps series . Or you can pm him and ask him . He is good about responding . Most of the time lol
 
1
7 4
5 9 3
6 8
2

That's how I rack when I have the opportunity to rack my own 9 ball (like when I'm practicing or playing the ghost). It works for me.
 
Baxter said:
Anyone know anything about this? I know that you can pattern rack 9-ball and 10-ball, but don't know a whole lot about it, and figure it would probably be a good thing to get a grasp on. Also, can you pattern rack 8-ball? I don't think I've ever seen that done, or just didn't know it. Thanks.
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Some info is available here:

with more on VEPS-V.

Enjoy,
Dave
 
I rack 8-ball the same way everytime so when pot a ball I know where it came from and can develop a more consistent break. I left the pattern below, obviously it may not show up perfectly in here so the description is:

Start with the 1 on the foot-spot, skip a ball, 2, skip a ball, 3, skip a ball, 4, skip a ball, 5, skip a ball, 6. In the center is the 8, and below it the 7 & 15. Then I just match the stripes by color of the solids. In the bottom right you reverse the order of the 5 & 13 and the 6 & 14 so there is a stripe in the bottom right corner. It might be hard to visualize, so here is the pattern left to right:

----1
---9 6
--2 8 14
-10 7 15 5
3 11 4 12 13

Once you do it a few times it's second nature and in BCA it's a completely legal rack as the 8 is in the center, and there is a solid in the bottom left, and a stripe in the bottom right.
 
Baxter said:
I was watching Corey Deuel vs. John Schmidt 10-ball a couple days ago, and Corey was racking the same pattern every rack and soft-breaking either of the two balls behind the headball into one of the side pockets every break. I copied down his pattern and break position, and am going to try and see if I can achieve similar results next practice session.
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If you can achieve the same results as Corey Deuel, then you need to be giving up the orange crush like a vending machine!:thumbup:
 
Ghosst said:
I rack 8-ball the same way everytime so when pot a ball I know where it came from and can develop a more consistent break. I left the pattern below, obviously it may not show up perfectly in here so the description is:

Start with the 1 on the foot-spot, skip a ball, 2, skip a ball, 3, skip a ball, 4, skip a ball, 5, skip a ball, 6. In the center is the 8, and below it the 7 & 15. Then I just match the stripes by color of the solids. In the bottom right you reverse the order of the 5 & 13 and the 6 & 14 so there is a stripe in the bottom right corner. It might be hard to visualize, so here is the pattern left to right:

----1
---9 6
--2 8 14
-10 7 15 5
3 11 4 12 13

Once you do it a few times it's second nature and in BCA it's a completely legal rack as the 8 is in the center, and there is a solid in the bottom left, and a stripe in the bottom right.
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How can it be a legal rack when the rules call for a random rack?

http://www.playbca.com/Leagues/Rules/8BallRules.aspx

You are not placing the balls at random. What you are doing is what the rules what to avoid and that is a pattern.
 
9BallMarksman said:
1
7 4
5 9 3
6 8
2

That's how I rack when I have the opportunity to rack my own 9 ball (like when I'm practicing or playing the ghost). It works for me.
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When racking for others when pattern racking isn't frowned upon, I rack 9 ball like:

1
3 5
6 9 7
2 4
8

Helps prevent break and runs by sending consecutive balls to opposite sides of the table, IMO.
 
The Schwartz said:
When racking for others when pattern racking isn't frowned upon, I rack 9 ball like:

1
3 5
6 9 7
2 4
8

Helps prevent break and runs by sending consecutive balls to opposite sides of the table, IMO.
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Keep pretending that matters! It is only 'tougher' if your opponenent gets straight in on every shot.

And if he does, you are in for a world of hurt anyway, so don't throw rocks at the gorilla!
 
Black-Balled said:
Keep pretending that matters! It is only 'tougher' if your opponenent gets straight in on every shot.

And if he does, you are in for a world of hurt anyway, so don't throw rocks at the gorilla!
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Just depends on who you're playing. A champion is fine, but a B player might not be.
 
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