Pay Pal dispute.
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I sent the seller an email last night. This is how he got back to me.
Other than being a rip off, I get free medical advice.
I know I am a bit crazy on AZ as some of you know too.
He is correct. Thinking back, I must have been crazy to think that 25 pieces of chalk might be worth $245 USD.
It was hard as a rock. I ground the tip into it two nights in a row and it didn't make a mark on the chalk.
I gave a piece to a buddy to try. 5 pieces were for him anyway.
He chalked his cue once and said, "Garbage, I don't want it".
I have tried just about every chalk available including Kamui so I'd like to think that I know what is good and what isn't.
It wasn't buyers remorse. If the chalk was anything close to BD, Russian or even Pre Flag, I would have kept it.
I spend more money than that on a weekend for pool and beer, so it wasn't a big hardship.
It could have been great chalk at one time, I have no doubt about that.
I think what I got was new old stock and that is where the problem was. Obviously because it isn't made any longer.
I just hate getting burned for anything.
But anyhow, thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
I sent Pay Pal another email so hoping that they might review it and reconsider.
It just may be something very simple. I thought when USPS said that the address was erroneous and undeliverable, that they probably know what they are talking about.
Other than being a rip off, I get free medical advice.
I know I am a bit crazy on AZ as some of you know too.
He is correct. Thinking back, I must have been crazy to think that 25 pieces of chalk might be worth $245 USD.
It was hard as a rock. I ground the tip into it two nights in a row and it didn't make a mark on the chalk.
I gave a piece to a buddy to try. 5 pieces were for him anyway.
He chalked his cue once and said, "Garbage, I don't want it".
I have tried just about every chalk available including Kamui so I'd like to think that I know what is good and what isn't.
It wasn't buyers remorse. If the chalk was anything close to BD, Russian or even Pre Flag, I would have kept it.
I spend more money than that on a weekend for pool and beer, so it wasn't a big hardship.
It could have been great chalk at one time, I have no doubt about that.
I think what I got was new old stock and that is where the problem was. Obviously because it isn't made any longer.
I just hate getting burned for anything.
But anyhow, thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
I sent Pay Pal another email so hoping that they might review it and reconsider.
It just may be something very simple. I thought when USPS said that the address was erroneous and undeliverable, that they probably know what they are talking about.
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i think the best way to try and get this worked out with paypal is to call them and do their waiting game(10-15mins.), and talk to an actual person explain your whole situation.
You'd think huh? Looks like the OP would rather be amazed at the bad customer service he's getting from this scammer than see if the situation could be resolved. To each his own baby.
Thanks man
Kevin
One thing I know is I would be putting in a complaint about the way Paypal is handeling this with the BBB and Consumer affairs. There are alot of goofy tricks scammers use that Paypal basically allows to take place due to the way they deal with these types of situations. A fake address is all that is needed and you can suddenly rip off anyone by selling a complete crap item and no ability to return it? Sorry, but no Paypal, that is not ok.
So who is this champ, let us know so that we can red rep him to death and make sure you are the last person he rips off on AZB ever. Perhaps a nice simple banning by Mr. Wilson would be even more simple, anyone using this forum to rip people off deserves no less.
Three, you missed the people who use paypal TO screw people.
Kevin, I wouldn't have started the thread if I wasn't willing to take anyones advice on the correct method to deal with it.
I had originally asked if by the word erroneous, that anyone thought that it possible that the seller had purposely used a phony address to get out of having to accept a return.
I did email PP explaining that my tracking number was valid, at least until the package left Canada. I had no idea that USPS was handling the international
part of the shipping. Apparently when that happened, the package had a new tracking number that I wasn't made aware of.
A couple of weeks ago, I faxed PP the Postal receipt with the sellers address on it as per instructions from PP.
My PP account is connected to my chequeing account and backed with a credit card.
And you're right, altho I am amazed that after considerable years and quite a few deals with PP, someone finally got me. And to think it may be due to using a phony address. Not 100%, just speculating considering the few details that I do know.
I would much rather have this resolved and have my money back to use for other things. Maybe $245 USD isn't much to some people, I only have a certain amount of disposable income and could have used that for cue supplies etc.
Sorry if you thought my lack of posting was due to not being concerned. I am working evening shifts for a while and that was my last post today before leaving for work.
I had originally asked if by the word erroneous, that anyone thought that it possible that the seller had purposely used a phony address to get out of having to accept a return.
I did email PP explaining that my tracking number was valid, at least until the package left Canada. I had no idea that USPS was handling the international
part of the shipping. Apparently when that happened, the package had a new tracking number that I wasn't made aware of.
A couple of weeks ago, I faxed PP the Postal receipt with the sellers address on it as per instructions from PP.
My PP account is connected to my chequeing account and backed with a credit card.
And you're right, altho I am amazed that after considerable years and quite a few deals with PP, someone finally got me. And to think it may be due to using a phony address. Not 100%, just speculating considering the few details that I do know.
I would much rather have this resolved and have my money back to use for other things. Maybe $245 USD isn't much to some people, I only have a certain amount of disposable income and could have used that for cue supplies etc.
Sorry if you thought my lack of posting was due to not being concerned. I am working evening shifts for a while and that was my last post today before leaving for work.
Oh, Man .... You are Sooooo Right !!!
I'm not sure about PP's policy elsewhere but in Singapore once our transaction exceeds a certain amount, we are required by PP to send over a proof of our domicile. Sent document cannot be older than 6 months and accepted proofs are documents like utility bills(clear name and address with date). This is to ensure the address you have in Paypal system is indeed the address in which you live in. I tried scanning a copy of my ID and that wouldn't fly with PP as the ID was issued more than 6 months ago..duhh...i was bothered at that time but i do see why that policy makes sense.
Did you try keying in the address into googlemap? Just try the postal code first, example "Taiwan, Taipei 123456" and see if a location is identified, vice versa try without postal as your postal code be wrong. If google can't identify your address, i'm pretty sure the postal service can't either. If the address you entered generated a location but it is quite different from what you've written then you might want to try the address from google instead. Just a thought, might or might not work.
Now i'm just dying to ask....was the chalk Cosmo? I'm assuming cos that's the only pricey and most talked about chalk now...
If so i'm pretty curious what happened？I've tried the chalk and i thought it was pretty good? Was it because you got yourself a bad batch?
Did you try keying in the address into googlemap? Just try the postal code first, example "Taiwan, Taipei 123456" and see if a location is identified, vice versa try without postal as your postal code be wrong. If google can't identify your address, i'm pretty sure the postal service can't either. If the address you entered generated a location but it is quite different from what you've written then you might want to try the address from google instead. Just a thought, might or might not work.
Now i'm just dying to ask....was the chalk Cosmo? I'm assuming cos that's the only pricey and most talked about chalk now...
If so i'm pretty curious what happened？I've tried the chalk and i thought it was pretty good? Was it because you got yourself a bad batch?
Cosmo and definitely a bad batch if thats what you want to call it. Hard as a rock. I mentioned that I actually ground the tip into the chalk for two nights and barely made a mark on the chalk.
Thanks and I will try Google map.
Thanks and I will try Google map.
TheThaiger
Banned
Old stock Japanese-made Cosmo, shipped from China? No longer in production? Large volume sales only? Alarm bells galore, but we are not allowed to post such concerns on people's sales pitches...
Post what you like because you won't be challenged. Other sellers don't like it.
Post what you like because you won't be challenged. Other sellers don't like it.
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Yep, when I asked for a refund, the initial response was that I had buyers remorse and that he didn't refund international sales. I reminded him that
much of his sales are international when he is from Taiwan and advertising on AZ.
he wanted the chalk back to inspect it to see if it warranted a refund, which would be only an exchange of chalk.
I told him that I wasn't about to pay return shipping and then shipping again to take the chance that the next batch was going to be the same.
I had my doubts if it would be any different. It was advertised as Rare and the Worlds Best Chalk. I had no doubt about the rare part, after all, it hadn't been produced since 2008. The best chalk in the world. It may have been at one time but not the batch I received.
I said I would take it to Pay Pal before I did that. his answer was fine, take it to Pay Pal. He refused correspondence with Pay Pay so it went to an instant dispute.
I won, but lost in the run run.
I haven't seen him around AZ for some time but wouldn't purchase anything from him in the future.
A little too Shady for me.
And this is the email that PP sent me:
Before we can issue you a refund, we need to confirm you returned the item
to your seller. We will refund you once we receive a proof of shipment
clearly showing the address where the item was sent.
If the transaction is for more than $325CAD, please also send a proof of
delivery signed by the seller confirming that he received the item.
The proof of shipment must show the recipient's name, the shipping date,
the address to which the package was sent and the tracking number.
Please fax your proof of shipment to us at:
+1-402-537-5760
In which I did just that. I received email stating that they had received the fax.
much of his sales are international when he is from Taiwan and advertising on AZ.
he wanted the chalk back to inspect it to see if it warranted a refund, which would be only an exchange of chalk.
I told him that I wasn't about to pay return shipping and then shipping again to take the chance that the next batch was going to be the same.
I had my doubts if it would be any different. It was advertised as Rare and the Worlds Best Chalk. I had no doubt about the rare part, after all, it hadn't been produced since 2008. The best chalk in the world. It may have been at one time but not the batch I received.
I said I would take it to Pay Pal before I did that. his answer was fine, take it to Pay Pal. He refused correspondence with Pay Pay so it went to an instant dispute.
I won, but lost in the run run.
I haven't seen him around AZ for some time but wouldn't purchase anything from him in the future.
A little too Shady for me.
And this is the email that PP sent me:
Before we can issue you a refund, we need to confirm you returned the item
to your seller. We will refund you once we receive a proof of shipment
clearly showing the address where the item was sent.
If the transaction is for more than $325CAD, please also send a proof of
delivery signed by the seller confirming that he received the item.
The proof of shipment must show the recipient's name, the shipping date,
the address to which the package was sent and the tracking number.
Please fax your proof of shipment to us at:
+1-402-537-5760
In which I did just that. I received email stating that they had received the fax.
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I am trying to help. I asked and I'll ask again, did you fund the PayPal payment with a credit card?
Thanks
Kevin
So it comes out of my account first.