Phooey on BSCP!

Jay........will you please stop injecting reality into forum discussions:)

Any news on that Angeles City tourney for after WPC?
 
memikey said:
Jay........will you please stop injecting reality into forum discussions:)

Any news on that Angeles City tourney for after WPC?

It won't be happening this year. There is a big tourney in Japan shortly after the WPC, on Nov. 20-25.
 
arian dacongan said:
bottomline is...

If somebody in authority like BSCP uses their position to impose their absolute will on players and if you don't follow what they say....then they will use their power to be vindictive......that's what i'm afraid of....nothing more nothing less,,,,and in the Phil...that's very possible.....


they just showed here that that is what they have done....because alex did not do BSCP's bidding,,,they retaliated on him by not notifying him and sacking him out of the lats leg...

BSCP's action here,, masked with their reasoning of alex"s antics,,actually detrimental to phil. pool because PHIL. could have more chance on the Grand Finals if Alex was included...

guys...specially jay,,i know you still plan to visit Phil. again this coming WPC,,,that's fine..i know you cannot antagonized any of this groups...but i guess me being anonymous i can( i do not intend to---just teliing the truth),,,that we should not really fear these guys. and that we should speak -up ..after all , our allegiance is with pool and not with this business people....

I agree with you 100 percent, my friend.

The BSCP organization may be a good vehicle for promoting pool in the Philippines, but the drivers of this vehicle today are spewing bad words out of their mouths about Alex Pagulayan. In fact, they are telling untruths. How dare they say Alex was "afraid" to compete in some upcoming events and that is why they could not get a hold of him, as if Alex was hiding. This is rubbish.

Furthermore, it's fine and dandy for those to give praise to this organization if it is their belief that the BSCP is elevating pool in Philippines. However, I ain't ever heard of the BSCP until they IMPUGNED Alex's character. I have heard of Alex Pagulayan LONG BEFORE I heard of the BSCP. Remember, without pool players, there would be no BSCP. This organization should be cultivating the sport, and as well, they should be SUPPORTIVE of pool players, especially one as talented as Alex, a WPC champion.

The BSCP now states they are "HESITANT" to include Alex in any further events of theirs because of his "MONEY DEMANDS." This is an absolute sham job by the BSCP trying to make themselves look like the good guy and Alex look like the bad guy. It is shameful.

I have personally witnessed what it is like to have a pool organization discriminate against pool players. Some folks think these pool organization should be heralded because they are elevating pool. However, when one dictator-like person is at the helm, hand-picking who HE/SHE wants to compete in pool tournaments, not affording the same opportunity for ALL players to earn a living, something is rotten in Manila. In fact, it stinks to high heaven what the BSCP is doing to Alex, and I, for one, am supporting Alex's stance.

BTW, Fajardo, the president of the BSCP, is the one who ignited this stink.

JAM
 
I hope Runout Radio gets the opportunity to interview Alex Pagulayan soon.

Alex will speak from his heart and state the truth. This BSCP representative who we recently heard on Runout Radio speaks with tainted words, much like a politician. He is standing behind Fajardo's decision to can Alex, and now the BSCP has, more or less, stood together as an organization because of the president's poor judgment call.

Without pool players, the BSCP would be up a creek without a paddle. They should support Filipino pool players and not cause any division. The truth will come out soon enough.

JAM
 
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MAGANDA KONG MAGTANIN KA NA LANG NG TA-E:eek: :D
 
jay helfert said:
Do you realize that without these "business" people, there would be no WPC in the Philipines?

mr. jay...

i agree and that i have nothing against these business people....i'm in business myself so i know what it's like( in fact I told your buddy fatboy in our private conversation that GOd has given me all i've desired and wished for and so maybe if i wish ( and it's a sincere wish for me) one more and that is to invest on big pool tourney maybe- just maybe God will grant it also---but people like these- make s me think may times of investing...nothing against business and business people( just the injustice that vultures creates).....busines is what keeps this world machinery going i think.....

my point only is that if they use their power( which i think in this case IMHO that they have did by retaliating to Alex), to absolutely impose their will or just to manipulate players..then i think we have a moral obligation to speak -up against such so they'll know that we will not tolerate it and somehow we're a little more smarter than what they think we are....

,,that's why USA( all the way) is so great because of checks and balances....not so in some part of these world..that's why there are still dictators.....not in america (my most beloved)...;) ;)
 
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Neil said:
I understand what you are saying, and I agree. But that is not just the Phil. That is big business everywhere.

His removal from Guinness Tour should be affected by his conduct and performance in the tour, not by any other concern outside the tour. The difference however is that the cases are not related, Guinness Tour and BSCP's concerns not related to tour.

That's what is disgusting about the whole thing. And even worst, in the Philippines, they can do this kind of stuff with impunity.
 
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JAM said:
I agree with you 100 percent, my friend

The BSCP now states they are "HESITANT" to include Alex in any further events of theirs because of his "MONEY DEMANDS." This is an absolute sham job by the BSCP trying to make themselves look like the good guy and Alex look like the bad guy. It is shameful.


JAM

i hope that BSCP will not continue on this track of "taking' on alex,,,,

as of now their "tentative plan" is to exclude alex..as to what extent- i don't know( i guess as far as we allow them- untill there's so much outcry from the pool world i guess)

..once again( i sound like a broken record)-this is what makes this kind of organization dangerous,,,they can pick on somebody and ruin it all for them( well, as far as the tournaments and areas they control or they have influence with) and they are demonstrating it right now....

....i just hope other players take their stand with alex and BSCP let -up...but since BSCP has taken considerable embarrassment on this issue-which they brought upon themselves anyway)- including the Phil. media..then looks like BSCP will keep on going) once gain - i hope they patche things up...

Alex is so well loved everywhere....

remember Jam during the IPT las vegas,,,people cheering for alex like i've never seen one cheer for someone before( and these are white folks) mind you..
there is these old gentleman on Oxygen bottle...screaming on top of his voice---SKIN'EM ALEX""")remember)...

this sports desperataly in need of someone like alex who is so much naturally fun to watch.....

BSCP- on the other hand on their RUN-OUT interview-emphatically states that their mission is to "i quote"- BRING ORDER AND DIRECTION TO POOL IN THE PHIL...i hope they sit down take a deep breathe and take some wise counsel and patch-up with alex for the sake of pool we all love....
 
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crosseyedjoe said:
His removal from Guinness Tour should be affected by his conduct and performance in the tour, not by any other concern outside the tour. The difference however is that the cases are not related, Guinness Tour and BSCP's concerns not related to tour.

That's what is disgusting about the whole thing. And even worst, in the Philippines, they can do kind of stuff with impunity.

you had beaten me to the punch. if there was a governing body that should be concerned about a player's antics on the tour, that should be the Guinness governing body itself. It's Guinness job (being the main tourney organizer) to see to it what is an acceptable behavior on the tour. obviously the BSCP took the role of tourney directors which shouldn't be, just by stating the so-called Alex antics. I say that is a first for me since it's the first time that I saw that a representing body is the one that has banned one of it's members rather than the tourney officials themselves ban such unruly player. I would have thought differently if Guinness and ESPN affirmed to the BSCP's statements of unruly behavior.
 
Come to the States, Alex, where you are loved and WELCOME in whatever tournament you play in. :)

Alex Pagulayan is an asset to the sport. Too bad the dictators at the BCPA don't understand this. :mad:

JAM
 
that's why USA( all the way) is so great because of checks and balances....not so in some part of these world..that's why there are still dictators.....not in america (my most beloved)...

God forbid if some fat mafia looking guy becomes the head of the pro billiards tour here. Suspends protesting players, drives the tour to the ground but buys a nice house in Florida somehow after that.:rolleyes:
 
JoeyInCali said:
that's why USA( all the way) is so great because of checks and balances....not so in some part of these world..that's why there are still dictators.....not in america (my most beloved)...

God forbid if some fat mafia looking guy becomes the head of the pro billiards tour here. Suspends protesting players, drives the tour to the ground but buys a nice house in Florida somehow after that.:rolleyes:

Did someone say Don Maggot?
 
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