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I Have A Few Questions That I Think Should Be Discussed, And This Is The Best Palce To Go Over Them.......

If You Copy/save Someone Else's Pics From The Internet, Should You Be Able To Post Them Freely, Wherever/whenever You Want?

Question 2....

If You Have Never Owned The Cue, Should You Be Able To Use It In Your Avatar?

I Was Talking To Joe And These Questions Came Up, So I Figured We Should Get More Input Here.
 
you should absolutely not be able to post pictures of cues that aren't yours without asking first. even if you once owned the cue and the pictures are yours you should still respect the new owner and ask first. that goes for avatars as well. just my opinion.

guy
 
Unless you add some sort of identification on your pics I don't see how you can complain if you upload them on a public forum. Legally I don't think you have a leg to stand on unless its trade marked. Now on the other hand is it ethical. Probably not.


I think its in poor taste if you are reselling a cue you bought and use the original sellers pics. I like the threads where somebody says "I reused Bama's pics. Hope he doesn't mind. I will remove them if you like". By then the cue has probably resold.

As far as the avatars. There are some many examples of people using others pics that I don't know how it could be policed. I don't understand how the case could be made to restrict people using others cues. There are so many using pics in there avatars of all kinds of different things. Why would cues be special?
 
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Unless it's your Girlfriend

I don't see anything wrong, as long as there's no claim, like you own it or a disclaimer that it's not yours when refering to it..
OR.. In your case Marcus, Your Girlfriend's photo ends up in my Avatar.. :eek:
 
I don't see it as much of a big deal, really.

The person that owns the cue owns ONLY the cue. That owner can't claim ownership of any/all photos taken of it, unless they've been copywrite protected.

That said...I think it's in good taste to ask an owner of a cue if they'd be okay with using pics of it...but that's more of a courtesy than anything else. It WOULD be wrong to lead people to believe you own the cue yourself..but that would have to be some kind of overt statement or insinuation. Folks share pics of cues on here all the time...and not always of ones that they own. ALOT of us have a folder (or 20) of archived photos, because we like to look at 'em. If a topic comes up that pertains to a particular style of cue...and somebody has pics of that style...I'm all for them posting them up. More knowledge to the general populace, I say. Again...just so long as somebody's not passing a picture of a cue off as one they own, if they do not.

My avatar picture is of a 6-point Black Boar I used to own. Since I have no clue who the new owner is...I can't "clear" it through them first, so I'll just let it fly until another pic strikes my fancy to use.
 
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hoosier_cues said:
Unless you add some sort of identification on your pics I don't see how you can complain if you upload them on a public forum. Legally I don't think you have a leg to stand on unless its trade marked. Know on the other hand is it ethical. Probably not.


I think its in poor taste if you are reselling a cue you bought and use the original sellers pics. I like the threads where somebody says "I reused Bama's pics. Hope he doesn't mind. I will remove them if you like". By then the cue has probably resold.

As far as the avatars. There are some many examples of people using others pics that I don't know how it could be policed. I don't understand how the case could be made to restrict people using others cues. There are so many using pics in there avatars of all kinds of different things. Why would cues be special?
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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A LEGAL STANDPOINT, JUST ETHICLY HOW PEOPLE FEEL.
 
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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A LEGAL STANDPOINT, JUST ETHICLY HOW PEOPLE FEEL.
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Just out of curiosity. Who is in you avatar. Do you own the rights to her likeness? Did you take the pic? If you do fine, use it. If you don't I can't see how you can complain about people using a pic in there avatar of a cue you own or owned. JMO
 
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I would always ask before posting someone else's pictures, I think it is the right thing to do, but I would necessarily expect others to ask me for permission to use mine. I guess I would only post pictures that I was comfortable with other people using, with or without my permission. How does everyone feel about posting the original link that contained the pictures?
 
It's a picture... as long as you're not discussing who bought what for how much, it's kind of irrelevant... It's a picture of a piece of wood.
 
I quite frankly don't care. I take pictures of my cues with the purpose of being able to sufficiently illustrate it's characteristics in such a manner that it's saleable. Now...once it's gone...and the pics have done their job...I would be honored if someone thought enough of my work to use my pics down the road.

The ONLY issue I have...is if they use my pictures...and somewhere between the time I took them...and the time they used them...the condition of the cue had changed.

Even THEN. I don't own the cue...and I'm not selling it. So what do I care? *shrug*

I think I would generally find it flattering however, that someone felt my pictures were better suited to show off their cue, than any they could take themself.
 
I would definitely say that permission should be gotten first. There are those amongst us, and some not anymore, that have some rather amazing collections. If/when they choose to post a pic of a cue to share with us, that is by their choice, however, many of these collectors are intensively private about their collections, often for obvious reasons. Often they are posting a pic as a one time share.

I feel that if we start to abuse the reposting of those cue pics, without permission first, then it is quite likely that less and less collectors will be so inclined as to share any further acquisitions with the public forum as a whole. It is a matter of common courtesy, and respecting one's right to privacy.

Lisa
 
hoosier_cues said:
Just out of curiosity. Who is in you avatar. Do you own the rights to her likeness? Did you take the pic? If you do fine, use it. If you don't I can't see how you can complain about people using a pic in there avatar of a cue you own or owned. JMO
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that photo probably is copy righted as well.....

I don't really care one way or another. If someone took a photo, loaded it up to the internet, and then thinks that others won't save it they are naive. Don't really care if they use it either. Probably 85% of the avatar photo's someone else took, and probably don't really like them being used on this forum. Why are cue photo's any different?
 
Well I think if you take a photo off the internet and post it and you didn't take it, AND you don't or never have owned the cue, and you don't credit the photographer, you are the biggest wannabe in the business. If you put a cue in your avatar and you are a cue salesman and you didn't or never owned the cue, you have to be kidding. I would never associate with a character of such low regard.

In our situation, if I take a photo of a cue to sell it, and I sell it, the photo right is mine. I may use that photo in a few varying ways if I need to, advertising, a collage, informative, educational, whatever. Same with people who take photos at PTM, we sometimes allow it, but if we like it, we'll use it. That has always been the case. Private party photos, we don't ask for or use.

We have been very lax on photo's, I could right click protect but I don't. But I have never been inclined to be a jerk in that manner.

JV
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Have A Few Questions That I Think Should Be Discussed, And This Is The Best Palce To Go Over Them.......

If You Copy/save Someone Else's Pics From The Internet, Should You Be Able To Post Them Freely, Wherever/whenever You Want?

Question 2....

If You Have Never Owned The Cue, Should You Be Able To Use It In Your Avatar?

I Was Talking To Joe And These Questions Came Up, So I Figured We Should Get More Input Here.
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Don't know if it's right or wrong on a public forum. I wouldn't do it and I know it's not allowed on ebay. They will cancel the listing.
 
If someone wanted to use 'my cues' as their Avatar, i would be flattered. All i would ask is for acknowledgment of 'MY' ownership. Asking permission would be nice as well. jmo.
 
I had no idea people felt so strongly about cues in an avatar. While I have never implied that I currently nor previously owned any of them, I only use it because I like the picture and found it on Google. Not one to make waves, I'll gladly change it to something else if it does bother anyone.
 
I look at it this way, if the cue was one you owned at one time, the pictures were taken of YOUR cue (at that time) and they are yours. You didn't sell photo rights. If they are on a public forum anywhere and they aren't protected or copyrighted, they are fair game. If a collector or anyone for that matter wants to keep them secret, then it is their obligation not to put them in a public forum. Obviously, I think it's stone cold wrong to infer that they are your cues if they aren't...

With avatars, we're more in the realm of a "pin up" picture. These are usually pictures that are available on the net (in public areas), and as long as you're not using them for profit, I certainly see no harm in it. Marcus doesn't own Jessie Jane and I'm not really the guy in my avatar. They are for amusement and ID only...
 
Pictures? Why would you want to post someone else's photos in the first place?

Avatars? Why not? More than half the people on every forum around the world has some sort of photo that they took off the web. What's the difference? Knowing who owns the photo and not knowing?

MULLY
 
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