When you're tuned up right and there is a good light over the table you should be able to see the fuzz picked up from the cloth on the OB from 10 foot away. Johnnyt
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Playing better while medicated
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When you're tuned up right and there is a good light over the table you should be able to see the fuzz picked up from the cloth on the OB from 10 foot away. Johnnyt
LMAO. Johnnyt
Maybe it doesn't need to be said (and as you alluded to) but I'll say it anyway, most if not all of these drugs can have SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS.
Here is my honest answer.
The right drugs can make you feel like a god temporarily which is why they are so addictive. They absolutely can make a player play a little better and can assist a player in pressure situations, but for some reason the drugs make you believe you play a lot better. Drug users are easy pickings for guys who know how to match up because of the distorted view of reality that goes on inside a persons head when they are high. Drugs are the biggest trap out there.
The worst part about drugs though is how they effect a person outside of the world of pool, in their personlal life. That god like feeling I spoke of earlier can and does cause for some very bad decisions in life while you are high that you will regret. I know! These decisions not only effect you but they effect everyone you are close to, your wife, your kids, your parents, your friends, everyone you love. I have seen drugs cause destruction in the lives of many people. Drug users are not the same person they were before they started drugs, even when they are not high. Drugs eventually change people and that is a fact. Sometimes the change is immediate and sometimes it is gradual but there is a change for the worst. I have seen many good guys turn into liars, cheats, and thieves. There are a lot of decisions people have made, while either high or wanting to get high, that a lot of people wish they could make over again. I ask you to remember this, a strong commitment to make ONE right decision could eliminate all of the bad decisions while high or wanting to get high, that decision is NEVER TRY DRUGS. If you stick to this one rule you can eliminate in your life the possibility of all of the destruction that I have seen drug users and the ones they love experience. If you don't make the decision to say no for yourself then say no to protect the ones you love and I mean that sincerely.
The problem with warnings like this is that if you haven't seen the destruction first hand then the warnings are easily ignored. On top of the fact that some have not seen the destruction, chances are good that anyone who is tempted to use probrably know someone they look up to who seems to do fine while using and they seem capable of managing the drugs just fine. If you don't listen to my warning then I understand because I was warned too yet I was tempted by a great player who seemed fine so I decided to dismiss the warning and try drugs for myself. I now I have an inability to think as clear and the damage permenant. I have difficulty organizing thoughts and my nervous system has been effected. THE WORST DECISION I EVER MADE WAS TO TRY DRUGS. That is the one decision that I regret the most. I am clean now and have been for years but the damage has been done. That great player who seemed to be able to manage fine, well it turned out that he couldn't manage as well as I thought. His life turned into a train wreck and his talent and life have been ruined. Many of the others who were around then, who were having fun getting high have wound up in jail or dead or brain dead and it is directly a result of drugs. I know this post sounds like an exaggeration but as I said, I am being honest. My strong opinion is never to do drugs.
The right drugs can make you feel like a god temporarily which is why they are so addictive. They absolutely can make a player play a little better and can assist a player in pressure situations, but for some reason the drugs make you believe you play a lot better. Drug users are easy pickings for guys who know how to match up because of the distorted view of reality that goes on inside a persons head when they are high. Drugs are the biggest trap out there.
The worst part about drugs though is how they effect a person outside of the world of pool, in their personlal life. That god like feeling I spoke of earlier can and does cause for some very bad decisions in life while you are high that you will regret. I know! These decisions not only effect you but they effect everyone you are close to, your wife, your kids, your parents, your friends, everyone you love. I have seen drugs cause destruction in the lives of many people. Drug users are not the same person they were before they started drugs, even when they are not high. Drugs eventually change people and that is a fact. Sometimes the change is immediate and sometimes it is gradual but there is a change for the worst. I have seen many good guys turn into liars, cheats, and thieves. There are a lot of decisions people have made, while either high or wanting to get high, that a lot of people wish they could make over again. I ask you to remember this, a strong commitment to make ONE right decision could eliminate all of the bad decisions while high or wanting to get high, that decision is NEVER TRY DRUGS. If you stick to this one rule you can eliminate in your life the possibility of all of the destruction that I have seen drug users and the ones they love experience. If you don't make the decision to say no for yourself then say no to protect the ones you love and I mean that sincerely.
The problem with warnings like this is that if you haven't seen the destruction first hand then the warnings are easily ignored. On top of the fact that some have not seen the destruction, chances are good that anyone who is tempted to use probrably know someone they look up to who seems to do fine while using and they seem capable of managing the drugs just fine. If you don't listen to my warning then I understand because I was warned too yet I was tempted by a great player who seemed fine so I decided to dismiss the warning and try drugs for myself. I now I have an inability to think as clear and the damage permenant. I have difficulty organizing thoughts and my nervous system has been effected. THE WORST DECISION I EVER MADE WAS TO TRY DRUGS. That is the one decision that I regret the most. I am clean now and have been for years but the damage has been done. That great player who seemed to be able to manage fine, well it turned out that he couldn't manage as well as I thought. His life turned into a train wreck and his talent and life have been ruined. Many of the others who were around then, who were having fun getting high have wound up in jail or dead or brain dead and it is directly a result of drugs. I know this post sounds like an exaggeration but as I said, I am being honest. My strong opinion is never to do drugs.
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TheThaiger
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When did Nancy Reagan join?
lol, I knew that was coming.
Great Danny Cook story. I met him years ago when I was on the road with my band. I used to match up on my days off and Danny drilled me on a bar table. I told him he should come to Hardtimes in Bell Flower CA and he could probably make some good scores, if he matched up well. He did come out and it was perfect because no one knew him, but unfortunately he didn't listen to me and got in the box with King Kong, Morro, and Ernesto Domenguez and couldn't win. If he would have moved better he could have done well, but he wasn't a very good listener, he went broke quickly:-(. I didn't see him do any drugs though, but I never followed him to the bathroom
.....Other guys I met on the road that came to LA like Jeremy Jones did do well when they came out because they did know how to match up. Jones was in LA in action at Hardtimes everyday for a week and came out winners and he moved very well!!! That was in the early 90s.
One of the most valuable posts I have ever read.
Your opinion is PLATINUM.
Your words are the voice of EXPERIENCE.
Your words sound honest and the message is the TRUTH!
If you catch any flack for your words, just be satisfied that you have performed a selfless but extremely valuable service to this forum and for those reading your post. Many of us appreciate your candor and opinion.
Your post may very well be the most valuable post that this forum has ever seen.
Your opinion is PLATINUM.
Your words are the voice of EXPERIENCE.
Your words sound honest and the message is the TRUTH!
If you catch any flack for your words, just be satisfied that you have performed a selfless but extremely valuable service to this forum and for those reading your post. Many of us appreciate your candor and opinion.
Your post may very well be the most valuable post that this forum has ever seen.
Thank you Joey A.
Which drug?
I agree fooling with drugs, in general is no good. However, I feel compelled to defend pot a little. I spent a few days at the FBI Academy at Quantico. During this time I listened to a lecture to 400 cops and Judi and me about the absurdity of spending money chasing pot offenders. Money that is needed to chase cocaine, meth, etc. dealers.
The AMMA said, to the best of their knowledge there has never been one fatality directly atributed to Marajuana. On the contrary, if you search the internet you can find reports that say it inhibbits Alzheimers, Parkinsons and even cancers.
Now, I don't know how much of this is factual, but, hell!, I'm willing to take a chance.
ANYBODY GOT ONE?
Keep it healthy. Alfie
I agree fooling with drugs, in general is no good. However, I feel compelled to defend pot a little. I spent a few days at the FBI Academy at Quantico. During this time I listened to a lecture to 400 cops and Judi and me about the absurdity of spending money chasing pot offenders. Money that is needed to chase cocaine, meth, etc. dealers.
The AMMA said, to the best of their knowledge there has never been one fatality directly atributed to Marajuana. On the contrary, if you search the internet you can find reports that say it inhibbits Alzheimers, Parkinsons and even cancers.
Now, I don't know how much of this is factual, but, hell!, I'm willing to take a chance.
ANYBODY GOT ONE?
Keep it healthy. Alfie
Alf,
Trust me, I'm no prude and I'm not "holier than thou" so please don't think I am admonishing you for smoking a little pot. I also know old Mary Jane is probably the least lethal of all the "getting high drugs". Many of my friends smoke weed.
But the truth is that some people just can't fade smoking weed and it causes serious side affects for MANY PEOPLE.
Smoking weed has cost many a person their job and even alienated their own families. It is also commonly known for the side affects of making a person LAZY, not to whine about the short term memory losses etc.
I have no problem with people smoking weed or doing drugs. Yes, that's right. I don't care if anyone uses prescription drugs or drugs off the street. It's their business, their health and as long as there drug use doesn't adversely affect me and mine, I'm cool with that. Seriously....
And yes, I'm for the legalization of marijuana. No sense in putting people in jail for smoking a little weed. And I know about all of the "health" benefits of weed and don't deny that a lot of people hold it in high esteem.
My only problem is suggesting in any way, to others that it may be harmless.
All drugs have side effects. Some have SERIOUS side effects, even marijuana has SERIOUS side effects for SOME people. Marijuana has divided and broken up many a family and HOSPITALIZED many a person who thought that it was a harmless drug.
This forum can be better than this.
Secaucus Fats
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I have been taking Propanolol ( a beta blocker) for a few years now. It was prescribed by my Gastroenterologist to help control hepatic portal hypertension and help prevent the reoccurence of esophageal varices.
What propranolol does is to block adrenaline receptors. Adrenaline is often described as the "fight or flight" neurotransmitter, that is to say that "fear" can cause the body to release large amounts of Adrenaline into the blood stream. Adrenaline is quite useful when trying to prepare for a fight, or flee from danger, but it can be a problem when engaged in activities such as pool, archery, rifle competition, live music performance, and public speaking.
By blocking the action of Adrenaline, Propranolol helps an individual to stay calm and in control of the situation.
Popanolol is on the list of banned substances under World Pool-Billiards Association rules.
With propanolol, I can be nervous mentally, but that does not translate into any of the usual effects such as sweaty hands, shakiness, or loss of fine motor control.
I do not endorse nor recommend the use of propanolol without a doctor's supervision. And due to possible side effects, I do not think it's a good thing to take merely for it's possible performance enhancing qualities.
As far as cannabis is concerned, the effects are very variable depending on the particular strain (Indica or Sativa) and its THC content. Three or four tokes to achieve a light buzz is not bad, but getting totally stoned is a recipe for disaster.
One very good way to help your game without any drug(s) is to learn how to meditate properly and how to perform breathing excercises.
What propranolol does is to block adrenaline receptors. Adrenaline is often described as the "fight or flight" neurotransmitter, that is to say that "fear" can cause the body to release large amounts of Adrenaline into the blood stream. Adrenaline is quite useful when trying to prepare for a fight, or flee from danger, but it can be a problem when engaged in activities such as pool, archery, rifle competition, live music performance, and public speaking.
By blocking the action of Adrenaline, Propranolol helps an individual to stay calm and in control of the situation.
Popanolol is on the list of banned substances under World Pool-Billiards Association rules.
With propanolol, I can be nervous mentally, but that does not translate into any of the usual effects such as sweaty hands, shakiness, or loss of fine motor control.
I do not endorse nor recommend the use of propanolol without a doctor's supervision. And due to possible side effects, I do not think it's a good thing to take merely for it's possible performance enhancing qualities.
As far as cannabis is concerned, the effects are very variable depending on the particular strain (Indica or Sativa) and its THC content. Three or four tokes to achieve a light buzz is not bad, but getting totally stoned is a recipe for disaster.
One very good way to help your game without any drug(s) is to learn how to meditate properly and how to perform breathing excercises.
I gotta tell you its not "marijuana" that has done this to people or families, its the people consuming it. Im not defending drugs here because I am a pot head or a recreational drug user, but peoples lack of self control is what causes this, I mean, lets look at the flip side of legal drugs, alcohol; how many health issues and how many deaths, broken families etc etc is caused by this so call legal drug. I believe that weed is less dangerous than alcohol, one is just legal the other one is not. At the end of the day the problem is people. If people smoke pot, drink, gamble in casinos and do all these things that people eventually get addicted to OCCASIONALLY then none of this would be a problem and it wouldn't be a plague in this country. The only drugs I have a problem with are those that cause immediate or close to dependency, and im not just talking about hard core street drugs, I also have a problem with prescribed medication that cause this and the willingness of doctors to prescribe them like is candy in many situations.
TheThaiger
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People are absolutely the problem. The problem with people is people, as Barton once said - and he'd know.
TheThaiger
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But the truth is that some people just can't fade eating pork pies and it causes serious side affects for MANY PEOPLE.
But the truth is that some people just can't fade drinking coca cola and it causes serious side affects for MANY PEOPLE.
But the truth is that some people just can't fade eating at McDonalds and it causes serious side affects for MANY PEOPLE.
But the truth is that some people just can't fade playing pool and it causes serious side affects for MANY PEOPLE.
And so on and so forth.
Society's puritanical attitude to drug-taking is the problem here. Drugs are a political football and a societal bogeyman. The anguished mother screaming "My little Jonny was an angel until he smoked weed!", really means Jonny's a pain in the arse now he's all grown up and can make his own decisions.
Rule number one for self-preservation - blame everything on something you don't do yourself. But we all take drugs, with the legal status often determining the level of harm.
Alcohol but no drugs?
Many if not most, doctors and chemists consider alcohol a drug and a poison. When you drink so much you puke, you are experiencing alcohol poisoning. I have no "facts and figues" on this, - I base it on speaking to doctors, nurses, chemists and the like.
Many if not most, doctors and chemists consider alcohol a drug and a poison. When you drink so much you puke, you are experiencing alcohol poisoning. I have no "facts and figues" on this, - I base it on speaking to doctors, nurses, chemists and the like.
Bowling too?
OK, so you don't like pot or pot smokers. You hate bowling, too?
This is my post #795. The number has special meaning for me. In 1967, I rolled my best series, 795 across six lanes in the Singles of an All-event City Championship. My total for 12 games was 2746. I set six Association records, but made only $1,000 that season, so a few years later I gave up bowling and turned to pool.
By the way, that was when my only drug was alcohol, but I drank AFTER bowling, not before or during.
The wife says "hi"!
She also said you should stop talking dirty to me.
Bowlers get high? If I had to bowl I would need to get high. :grin-square:
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OK, so you don't like pot or pot smokers. You hate bowling, too?
This is my post #795. The number has special meaning for me. In 1967, I rolled my best series, 795 across six lanes in the Singles of an All-event City Championship. My total for 12 games was 2746. I set six Association records, but made only $1,000 that season, so a few years later I gave up bowling and turned to pool.
By the way, that was when my only drug was alcohol, but I drank AFTER bowling, not before or during.
And who knows what you and Puff the Magic Dragon might've accomplished together?