Playing for 1 week.

selftaut said:
He must have retired from the pool scene now I would imagine. Mike Xarios is a great guy and could play some 14.1 at one time. I used to run the Eastern States 14.1 Championships many moon ago, he finished high, he could knock em in da hole.
ya..never saw him play 14.1..only 9 ball in the Joss events...but i have heard many good things about him in the past..not to mention one of the best table mechanics around..his place "Accu-Billiards" in New Bedford has gone to sh-t since he sold it :(
 
SWEDEintheRIVER said:
ya..never saw him play 14.1..only 9 ball in the Joss events...but i have heard many good things about him in the past..not to mention one of the best table mechanics around..his place "Accu-Billiards" in New Bedford has gone to sh-t since he sold it :(

Thats a shame about his old room there in New bedford, I was there many times for his tournaments in the 80's and 90's and it was a great room. Yes he was one of the best table mechanics in the land.
 
The difficulty I experience is connecting racks. It is simple to score 14 points. An issue is can you score 14 points and connect racks. The obstacle is to create a break ball. The main difficulties involved in selecting a break ball is how will the rack break up after the break? And will the cue ball be trapped after the break?
 
I find this thread fascinating and wish you the best of luck in your endeavor. After reading the exchanges in this thread I'm a bit confused though on a few points. :confused:

"I never added them, just thought each rack would be 15." "The 20' and 30's are coming often."

So you must be counting, adding balls?

"In three days I have made 44 twice. I miss the break ball both times."

"That'd be 42. Any 'break ball miss' lands on a multiple of 14."

Forgive me steev but if he started with 3 balls on the table, made 2 and ran 3 racks he could have made a 44 ball run if my math is correct?

"I thought this game was frustrating in practice. I played someone last night. My goal was to leave a ball close to the rack for breaking. Their goal was to get all the easy balls and leave the hardest shot till the end."

Sometimes we mere mortals have to play within our own game. I may have to shoot the break ball or balls to run out and stop you. Might not be the smartest thing to do but I might not have a choice. Against you I'd be giving up what, another 20 balls at least right?

Running in the 40's in just a few days; I'm impressed. Have to ask; 7, 8, or 9 foot table? :thumbup:
 
Fenwick said:
I find this thread fascinating and wish you the best of luck in your endeavor. After reading the exchanges in this thread I'm a bit confused though on a few points. :confused:

"I never added them, just thought each rack would be 15." "The 20' and 30's are coming often."

So you must be counting, adding balls?

"In three days I have made 44 twice. I miss the break ball both times."

"That'd be 42. Any 'break ball miss' lands on a multiple of 14."

"Fascinating" is probably not the word I would use for this thread.

I'd say you probably should read through the rules before playing.

And then if you are going to be running a lot of balls, maybe you need to brush up on one of the multiplication tables. Here, let me help:

1x14=14
2x14=28
3x14=42
4x14=56
5x14=70
6x14=84
7x14=98.....

;)
 
Fenwick said:
I find this thread fascinating and wish you the best of luck in your endeavor. After reading the exchanges in this thread I'm a bit confused though on a few points. :confused:

"I never added them, just thought each rack would be 15." "The 20' and 30's are coming often."
being into the 3rd rack and then missing early or mid rack (30's). For the 20's, I'm out of the 1st rack and have a good part of the second gone. I am doing this often.

So you must be counting, adding balls?

Not counting, If I was I wouldn't have put 44. I missed 2 break balls to start the 4th rack.

"In three days I have made 44 twice. I miss the break ball both times."

"That'd be 42. Any 'break ball miss' lands on a multiple of 14." Someone pointed that out and I corrected the score.

Forgive me steev but if he started with 3 balls on the table, made 2 and ran 3 racks he could have made a 44 ball run if my math is correct?

"I thought this game was frustrating in practice. I played someone last night. My goal was to leave a ball close to the rack for breaking. Their goal was to get all the easy balls and leave the hardest shot till the end."

Sometimes we mere mortals have to play within our own game. I may have to shoot the break ball or balls to run out and stop you. Might not be the smartest thing to do but I might not have a choice. Against you I'd be giving up what, another 20 balls at least right? He can pot ok, just would leave crazy balls for breaking out the rack. He started to leave better balls.

Running in the 40's in just a few days; I'm impressed. Have to ask; 7, 8, or 9 foot table? :thumbup:

I have a 9' very tight playing table with 860. I played Turning Stone before and those tables played easier (by very little) than mine. They take a ball down the rail better. Mine plays like a snooker table down the rail, heart of pocket or nothing.

I am not running 40 every trip, I only have 2. I played 7 games with a guy, 6 went to 50 and 1 to 150. In those 50 games I had 6 runs in the 20's and in the 150 I had 2 runs into the 3rd rack. I had 5 over 15 runs. Although I didn't run as many balls in a row as practice, I had to break more racks to get those points and felt I was playing better. Also, when I ran out 27 for the win, I stopped. Maybe that would have been my new high run.
 
dmgwalsh said:
"Fascinating" is probably not the word I would use for this thread.

I'd say you probably should read through the rules before playing.

And then if you are going to be running a lot of balls, maybe you need to brush up on one of the multiplication tables. Here, let me help:

1x14=14
2x14=28
3x14=42
4x14=56
5x14=70
6x14=84
7x14=98.....

;)

I believe most everyone starting would make the same mistake. I wasn't counting balls just stages of racks. I didn't post my score other than 44 cause I thought 3 full racks would have been 15 balls. Just shows how much I have played, very very little, and with no rules. Once someone pointed out the math involved, it made sense. I will just post racks and balls and let you guys figure it out.

I am trying this to see how great of a practice it is. Many posted this is the game to get good. I don't know yet, but will keep posting results and at the end of 1 week, post if I think it will/did improve my game. Maybe I will try to get video or some good racks.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
I believe most everyone starting would make the same mistake. I wasn't counting balls just stages of racks. I didn't post my score other than 44 cause I thought 3 full racks would have been 15 balls. Just shows how much I have played, very very little, and with no rules. Once someone pointed out the math involved, it made sense.

I understand.

My point is how many posts in this thread revolved around bad math?

"Fascinating" is probably not the best word to describe that aspect of the thread.

Good luck in your endeavors and you seem to be getting the hang of it very quickly.
 
dmgwalsh said:
I understand.

My point is how many posts in this thread revolved around bad math?

"Fascinating" is probably not the best word to describe that aspect of the thread.

Good luck in your endeavors and you seem to be getting the hang of it very quickly.

I had no idea words starting with the letter F were not allowed!
 
Fenwick said:
I had no idea words starting with the letter F were not allowed!
Well, Fenwick, Perhaps we will make an exception for you.

And you know it is fascinating that so many people can talk about how many balls are in each rack of 14.1 and get it wrong again and again and again.

Simply fascinating.
 
Fenwick said:
I had no idea words starting with the letter F were not allowed!

Fenwick, my man, Did you give me negative rep because I said I didn't find this thread "fascinating"?! I'd send you a pm but I guess you don't accept pms.
 
No! I gave you a positive I thought !!!!!! I've never given a negative unless by mistake??? I now added p.m.'s also!!!
 
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Fenwick said:
No! I gave you a positive I thought !!!!!! I've never given a negative unless by mistake??? I now added p.m.'s also!!!

OK. It showed up grey ( I guess because you are new) and I wasn't sure.

Props to you for being a good sport.

Dennis
 
I got video working on my phone to computer. I will see about running a couple racks and posting. Have been down a couple days with broken tip. I will get it fixed tomorrow and post a video of a few shots. I have probably 1 day to run my 5 racks (because of delays from xmas and tip). Highest during the week is still 3 racks and missed break ball.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
I got video working on my phone to computer. I will see about running a couple racks and posting. Have been down a couple days with broken tip. I will get it fixed tomorrow and post a video of a few shots. I have probably 1 day to run my 5 racks (because of delays from xmas and tip). Highest during the week is still 3 racks and missed break ball.


Is that a 45, 44 or 42 ? :confused:

one more day and then you can quit.:D
 
dmgwalsh said:
Is that a 45, 44 or 42 ? :confused:

one more day and then you can quit.:D

I gave up trying to figure that out, I'll just stick with racks. I can count to 10 no problem. I will be able to handle any of my runs this way.
 
I finished play for the 1 week (7 days). I was hoping for 5 racks, but didn't get it. I finished playing today and the best I did was a miss on the 10th ball in the 4th rack (4 balls on table). I also had a miss on the 4th ball in the 3rd rack. I finished with 3 full racks completed twice and then missed break ball. 1 time into the 4th rack. I had a few misses in the 3rd rack and lots in the 2nd rack.

I will see if 100 will come before spring. With the runs I have been getting, I think it's possible. The tables are getting easier and I am landing better on the break ball.

video will come soon.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
I finished playing today and the best I did was a miss on the 10th ball in the 4th rack (4 balls on table).

So I think you are saying that your high run so far was 52, if I understand you correctly.

3 times 14 = 42 and then another 10 - 52.

Good luck on your quest for a higher run.:thumbup:
 
dmgwalsh said:
So I think you are saying that your high run so far was 52, if I understand you correctly.

3 times 14 = 42 and then another 10 - 52.

Good luck on your quest for a higher run.:thumbup:

Let me help you with the math Denny Boy. A miss on the 10th ball leaves 6 balls on the table which means he pocketed 9 that rack, 9 + 14 +14 +14 = 51.

I've been waiting all year for you to slip up. :D

On a serious note, those are nice runs, getting into the 3rd rack often is very good.
 
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