Please help identify this cue, I have no clue!!

manwon

manwon

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I recently picked up an old cue, but I have never seen another like it or even similar. The joint style appears to be very similar to Brunswick cues from the from the 1940's and before, however, the design is more like cues made in the 1960's. I suspect that the cue was actually made sometime during the 1950's. The cues wrap is a brown nylon that I also have never seen before, and the cues bumper screws directly into the cues butt with a single cue.

Any help would be appreciated!!

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Thanks Craig
 
iowa_player said:
Im prob. way off but when I seen that butt I thought of an old Palmer .
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Thanks and I dont think you are that far off, I kinda thought that it looked that way also.

Thanks Craig
 
There's only a handful of cuemakers that put the joint pin on the shaft. Burtain Spain comes to mind.

Unfortunately, I don't think this is a Spain cue. Looks more like a chinese production I once had. Brass joint, big pin on the shaft, and the bumper was a white plastic of some type with a tiny bumper screwed into it by a single wood screw.

Of course my chinese production didn't have points either so...

EDIT: Does that wrap look like it came on the cue from the beginning or does it look like it was later added?
 
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House cue conversion made by pool playing machinist.

Martin



manwon said:
I recently picked up an old cue, but I have never seen another like it or even similar. The joint style appears to be very similar to Brunswick cues from the from the 1940's and before, however, the design is more like cues made in the 1960's. I suspect that the cue was actually made sometime during the 1950's. The cues wrap is a brown nylon that I also have never seen before, and the cues bumper screws directly into the cues butt with a single cue.

Any help would be appreciated!!

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Thanks Craig
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Not sure about the pool cue but the table it's on is a great looking Brunswick Anniversary. I do have an old briggs butterfly cue with a very similar joint but it's much older then this cue.

In San Fransisco there was Whitehead and Zimmerman they did a few crazy cue conversions many years ago. They have been around for probably 70 + years Sequia Billiards bought them out 3 -5 years ago.

Craig
 
LoGiC said:
There's only a handful of cuemakers that put the joint pin on the shaft. Burtain Spain comes to mind.

Unfortunately, I don't think this is a Spain cue. Looks more like a chinese production I once had. Brass joint, big pin on the shaft, and the bumper was a white plastic of some type with a tiny bumper screwed into it by a single wood screw.

Of course my chinese production didn't have points either so...

EDIT: Does that wrap look like it came on the cue from the beginning or does it look like it was later added?
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The pin is the exact type that Brunswick used, I have never seen a Chinese cue with pin like this. I think the wrap is completely original to the cue, and the material dates to the 50's or early 60's.

Thanks for your information, and have a good night!!!
 
n10spool said:
Not sure about the pool cue but the table it's on is a great looking Brunswick Anniversary. I do have an old briggs butterfly cue with a very similar joint but it's much older then this cue.

In San Fransisco there was Whitehead and Zimmerman they did a few crazy cue conversions many years ago. They have been around for probably 70 + years Sequia Billiards bought them out 3 -5 years ago.

Craig
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Thanks for the kind words about the table, I did most of the restoration myself. I had a customer who works in a metal shop repolish the metal corners. The cue came to me from the Midwest, it was found at a garage sale according to the seller.

Thanks for your information and comments.
 
ribdoner said:
C,

VERY early LAUBE???????????:scratchhead:

Take care, A
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I hope you are right, I have thought of that myself Adam. But, I am still uncertain, I have contacted Classiccues to see if Joe has any idea's, he may know for certain.

Thanks Adam
 
Some of the old Adam cues, like the Americana use the colored ribbons on the butt. I hope this helps. Schmelkie had some unique joints too. Not that I can spell it right.Lol. poolrod
 
It looks like an old Rich cue.

I believe the joint screw belongs in the butt, probably wound up in the shaft because the glue broke loose taking it apart at one time.
 
Craig,
I am in agreement with Dick on this cue. From the pin it appears to have been moved to the shaft and was probably originally in the butt. I would think Rich cue also.

JV
 
billiardcue said:
It looks like an old Rich cue.

I believe the joint screw belongs in the butt, probably wound up in the shaft because the glue broke loose taking it apart at one time.
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I think this may be your answer, but would then throw in Palmer or Paradise. If you look at your screw and an early Brunswick shaft with the pin in the shaft, the screw will be threaded all the way to the pilot. Yours is not like that. I wouldn't try spinning it out without more definitive answers, however, because I may be way off and wouldn't want to ruin the value.
 
billiardcue said:
It looks like an old Rich cue.

I believe the joint screw belongs in the butt, probably wound up in the shaft because the glue broke loose taking it apart at one time.
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I just saw this, and I would guess the same.

Chris
 
I appreciate everyones input and thoughts on this cue, however, the pin was designed for the shaft not the cues butt. The butt has a Brass insert just like the type used in shafts that go's down into the cues forearm, that the pin screws into.

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Let me know what you guys think!!
 
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