Ok So I've been playing for a while now and have seen the adds for lots of "Pool Schools" or courses. any feedback on these? Have Pro's used them? (Before they were Pro?) 
let me know what ya know!
let me know what ya know!
Pool Schools.....
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Pickpocket...Pros have been to our pool school many times, including AFTER they were established pros! 
It's never to early, or too late, to learn what you don't know! Until you attend, you really don't know what you don't know! 
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
It's never to early, or too late, to learn what you don't know! Until you attend, you really don't know what you don't know! Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
PickPocket said:
I have attended the school run by Randg, Scott Lee, and Joe Tucker. It was a wonderful experience. Well worth the time and money. I have posted about this several time. You can look up previous posts. I cannot image anyone not enjoying the experience. These guys are really good at what they do.
I've never met Randy, but have emailed back and forth. I think he's a nice guy.
Have taken a privat with Scott Lee, and did Joe Tuckers school. Both are well worth it if you get the chance. Joe has tons of drills to work with, and Scott has the Mother drills and stroke work.
Hope this helps.
pete
Have taken a privat with Scott Lee, and did Joe Tuckers school. Both are well worth it if you get the chance. Joe has tons of drills to work with, and Scott has the Mother drills and stroke work.
Hope this helps.
pete
Mark Wilson...
http://www.playgreatpool.com/
In 10 minutes he did more for my game and stroke than any other person I ever took a lesson from.
The 2nd day I was there, Jeanette Lee came in to work on her straight pool game with him.
Great fellow, former touring pro, played in the Mosconi cup two years.
Can't say enough good about the help he gave me.
Flex
http://www.playgreatpool.com/
In 10 minutes he did more for my game and stroke than any other person I ever took a lesson from.
The 2nd day I was there, Jeanette Lee came in to work on her straight pool game with him.
Great fellow, former touring pro, played in the Mosconi cup two years.
Can't say enough good about the help he gave me.
Flex
I would think that most of the schools have had many pros attending before and after. I really don't think that it is a prerequisite for someone wanting to work on their game. I have worked with students from beginner to pro level and I treat them all the same. There is allot of great Instructors around the country. My good friend Scott probably travels the most out of all of us and he is great Instructor. Please if you really want to work on your game, take that first step.
PickPocket said:Ok So I've been playing for a while now and have seen the adds for lots of "Pool Schools" or courses. any feedback on these? Have Pro's used them? (Before they were Pro?)
let me know what ya know!
i don't think they're what they're cracked up to be. when you look at it closer if you're not seeing the kind of improvement you want it's probably because you're not improving from the neck up. work on your patterns. i think that'll pay off more in the end. unless you've got wacked out mechanics. you start playing better patterns you'll probably jump up a ball or 2 in your game.
Sam...Do you really think you're qualified to make that statement, after one 2 hour lesson? A short, one-time lesson is nothing to compare a multi-day pool school to. NOBODY who has attended our schools has ever come back to complain. On the contrary, they come on here in droves to praise their experiences...like kaznj did. Many students even come back for a "free" refresher a year later!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Having taken lessons through the years, one of the best experiences was those taken from Scott Lee. He is thoroughly knowledgeble with many years of teaching. I was told that he even taught Abe Lincoln how to play. On the serious side, he is a true gentleman who loves his craft, has worked with many pros, will spend as much time as you need, and will definitely improve your game. Great experience and reasonable. You won't be sorry.
Oh come Bob...It was GRANT, not Lincoln ...right after he put the very first pool table in the White House (and caught a bunch of sh*t for spending $200 of the taxpayer's money, for the table, balls, cues, etc.). Thanks for the kind words!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
...right after he put the very first pool table in the White House (and caught a bunch of sh*t for spending $200 of the taxpayer's money, for the table, balls, cues, etc.). Thanks for the kind words!Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Poz said:
Scott Lee said:
weather i'm qualified or not is open to debate but i thought i'd throw my 2 cents into this.
didn't meant to sound like i was taking a shot at you if that's what it seemed like. sorry. i don't regret taking the lesson with you but i do believe that the problems i ,and many other players, have has a lot to do with patterns and choices. not shotmaking or my preshot routine
Sam...I didn't think you were 'taking a shot at me'. However, the thread is about "pool schools", not taking a single private lesson. On the flipside, I pointed out to you the flaws in your process, during your video review. You stated that it was too difficult to try and make the changes, and as a result have gone back to your old way. Nothing wrong with that. The only problem is that you'll never know how much improvement you COULD get, by making those adjustments. The hardest thing to do, when learning something new, is to stick with it (no matter how uncomfortable, or how long it takes), until it replaces your old behavior. I can only give you direction...I can't make you practice the right way to learn it! It works for 98% of those who diligently apply the process. No harm, no foul!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee said:Sam...I didn't think you were 'taking a shot at me'. However, the thread is about "pool schools", not taking a single private lesson. On the flipside, I pointed out to you the flaws in your process, during your video review. You stated that it was too difficult to try and make the changes, and as a result have gone back to your old way. Nothing wrong with that. The only problem is that you'll never know how much improvement you COULD get, by making those adjustments. The hardest thing to do, when learning something new, is to stick with it (no matter how uncomfortable, or how long it takes), until it replaces your old behavior. I can only give you direction...I can't make you practice the right way to learn it! It works for 98% of those who diligently apply the process. No harm, no foul!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I haven't posted here much lately and don't plan to but this is such an important issue I thought I'd chime in.
Mechanics are the foundation for EVERYTHING in pool. While there is no ONE set of proper mechanics...Butsamante's looping stroke...McCready's side arm delivery etc...but the mechanics taught by Scott Lee, Allison Fisher & Gerda Hofstatter's Pool School etc. are the MOST LIKELY to create a repeatable and accurate stroke.
You can learn all there is to know about patterns ON PAPER but set up, stroke and finish have to be first learned and then practiced.
YES it is HARD to change your mechanics but if it wasn't HARD to do it right, then everyone would be a world champion.
Scott and Alli/Gerda made significant changes in my mechanics that took me MONTHS of work to incorporate...and they told me in advance that my game was likely to go backward as that transition was taking place.
But I DID the work and my game improved significantly.
IMHO, not taking a SERIES of lessons from top instructors is a HUGE mistake for any player who actually wants to start WINNING league matches and regular monthly local tournaments etc.
Taking such lessons will provide a LIFETIME of benefits and is ridiculously cheap for the benefits derived.
But if you're happy finishing "in the money" and holding your own in $5.00 gambling matches...fine...go it alone. But anyone who is not CONSISTENTLY winning on the local level and who says lessons from top instructors isn't worth it is having trouble processing logical thought.
Regards,
Jim
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Scott Lee said:Sam...I didn't think you were 'taking a shot at me'. However, the thread is about "pool schools", not taking a single private lesson. On the flipside, I pointed out to you the flaws in your process, during your video review. You stated that it was too difficult to try and make the changes, and as a result have gone back to your old way. Nothing wrong with that. The only problem is that you'll never know how much improvement you COULD get, by making those adjustments. The hardest thing to do, when learning something new, is to stick with it (no matter how uncomfortable, or how long it takes), until it replaces your old behavior. I can only give you direction...I can't make you practice the right way to learn it! It works for 98% of those who diligently apply the process. No harm, no foul!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
i just can't focus on making the shot when i'm thinking about where my eyes are supposed do be looking at. adn like i said before the pocket was left out of the equation.
and by your logic we'll never know how much worse my game would have gotten if i stuck with your way
No problem, my young friend. Perhaps that's true. However, almost EVERYBODY who has stuck out the tough times (as described accurately by AV84FUN), has seen their game jump significantly. Just remember this...if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got! Food for thought! Best wishes with your game!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Best wishes with your game!Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
poolplayer2093 said:
My 2 cents, you want an instructor who can video tape you.
Then see you again after a while to check your progress.
I think the best scenario is if there's a great instructor in your local hall where he/she can really follow your progress.
Problem is they come rarer than unicorns.
Speaking locally, I've met more physicists instructors than good ones.
Then see you again after a while to check your progress.
I think the best scenario is if there's a great instructor in your local hall where he/she can really follow your progress.
Problem is they come rarer than unicorns.
Speaking locally, I've met more physicists instructors than good ones.
It does take work!
Scott is absolutely correct. No instructor will make you a better player unless you are willing to work HARD at it. I have taken private lessons from Scott (which were great) and I have attended a 3 day pool school.
Both had great points and both were worth while. They were worth while ONLY because I worked at what I was shown. Not all information was new to me but I did learn a lot, I thought I knew more than I did! Both Scott and the Pool School I attended were well worth the money and time.
If someone is unwilling to change, or at least try what they have been taught, they may as well continue to play and save their money. It takes work.. PERIOD. Some folks are just unwilling to be taught!
JBK
Scott Lee said:...if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got! Food for thought!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott is absolutely correct. No instructor will make you a better player unless you are willing to work HARD at it. I have taken private lessons from Scott (which were great) and I have attended a 3 day pool school.
Both had great points and both were worth while. They were worth while ONLY because I worked at what I was shown. Not all information was new to me but I did learn a lot, I thought I knew more than I did! Both Scott and the Pool School I attended were well worth the money and time.
If someone is unwilling to change, or at least try what they have been taught, they may as well continue to play and save their money. It takes work.. PERIOD. Some folks are just unwilling to be taught!
JBK
Joe Koontz said:
i assume you're meaning me because scott mentioned me not sticking with his methods. i work very hard to improve i just don't do it his way. not to say that it won't work for others it just didn't suite me.
i agree progress comes with hard work.