"Pool's REAL FATAL FLAW"

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I am re-posting this becuase I think everyone should read it...

You all act pleased as punch as if you just did something, well so do I.

WAHT IS THE FATAL FLAW IN POOL?

It’s all MONEY... Someone said to me the other day if the top player was making 20 Million a year in pool, then all the current players would be sleeping on the street. I think its true. Because it is a sport, and the real athletes play golf, baseball or other major sports so they get PAID. If they played pool, the REAL athletes would dominate, not the fat asses, gamblers, hustlers, and drug addicts.

If pool had a huge payout, then the real athletes would pick up cues and figure it out. It’s all simple, shoot, make ball, and shoot again. Endurance is key, so we play races to 35 in tournaments, have 16 entrants, and 5 million top prizes.

But to EARN a spot you have to play qualifiers.

If pool did this, and had money, it would work. But it doesn’t everything is ran by f**cking amateurs, even Allen Hopkins event, VERY AMATEURISH, the US Open, Berry's event, EXTREAMLY AMATEURISH. All things pool is ran by idiots, with no education, who have "played" pool their whole life.

Seminole Tribe is running some CLASSY events, with some heart, and business MIND. No one else in this country is. NO ONE!

And I have never played in a Seminole event....

Look the whole IDIOT pool world allowed KT and the IPT come to town, and guess what he screwed them all over too! Because they were too dumb to realize what the hell was going on. He ran professional shi*. He wasn't dumb, but just a crook! If the pool world was SMARTER this would have never happend.

This game needs someone outside the GAME to run shit, these amateurs running stuff is just stupid anymore. All of they do is keep the same amount of money in pool, and they all keep makeing each other’s money back! It’s a redundant cycle, and it will never end, because these POOLIDIOTS continue to let amateurs run the show. AND ALL OF YOU LIKE IT, AND SUPPORT IT, AND THINK ITS GREAT. Talk about the US Open, and THE SBE like its GRAND. ITS A SHIT SHOW, where 1 person get's rich, and a few other people make MY months salary; working a REAL job.

Problem is people in the pool world are LAZY and want a quick fix, and an easy pay day, bunch of lock artists. You get people who are promoting today, because they CANT compete anymore, and they found a way to make money off the PLAYERS. No matter how much they "cry" they are for the players they are full of shit, they are for making MONEY.

THAT’S THE FATAL FLAW!

NOW, If you DON'T agree with my comments, then GO back and READ IT AGAIN, beucase you definately missed something.

Call me a dick all you want, but 90% of you who read this in it's entirety agree with me, the other 10% didn't read it all the way.
 
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I hope

And I hope a bunch of bangers reply with your comments becuase commenting on it and keeping this thread alive makes it true. If you don't agree ignore it, and let it die out with my two lonely posts. Plus someone elses comment inbetween.
 
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I didn't read it all, but I will call you Richard.

Richard, I think the flaw is that pool is not a career. DAZ said something in an interview recently...to paraphrase, 'wonderful that I get to play a game for a living. It has kept me from having a job for 14 years'.

It is a life shortcut with short-term benefits.
 
I do believe that we need someone outside the game the run things. Someone with a money-making business mind and expand on that so you do have a point there IMHO.
 
Black-Balled, well said...

I have to agree.

You are not the first person to call me Richard btw... ;)
 
I am re-posting this becuase I think everyone should read it...

You all act pleased as punch as if you just did something, well so do I.

WAHT IS THE FATAL FLAW IN POOL?

It’s all MONEY... Someone said to me the other day if the top player was making 20 Million a year in pool, then all the current players would be sleeping on the street. I think its true. Because it is a sport, and the real athletes play golf, baseball or other major sports so they get PAID. If they played pool, the REAL athletes would dominate, not the fat asses, gamblers, hustlers, and drug addicts.

If pool had a huge payout, then the real athletes would pick up cues and figure it out. It’s all simple, shoot, make ball, and shoot again. Endurance is key, so we play races to 35 in tournaments, have 16 entrants, and 5 million top prizes.

But to EARN a spot you have to play qualifiers.

If pool did this, and had money, it would work. But it doesn’t everything is ran by f**cking amateurs, even Allen Hopkins event, VERY AMATEURISH, the US Open, Berry's event, EXTREAMLY AMATEURISH. All things pool is ran by idiots, with no education, who have "played" pool their whole life.

Seminole Tribe is running some CLASSY events, with some heart, and business MIND. No one else in this country is. NO ONE!

And I have never played in a Seminole event....

Look the whole IDIOT pool world allowed KT and the IPT come to town, and guess what he screwed them all over too! Because they were too dumb to realize what the hell was going on. He ran professional shi*. He wasn't dumb, but just a crook! If the pool world was SMARTER this would have never happend.

This game needs someone outside the GAME to run shit, these amateurs running stuff is just stupid anymore. All of they do is keep the same amount of money in pool, and they all keep makeing each other’s money back! It’s a redundant cycle, and it will never end, because these POOLIDIOTS continue to let amateurs run the show. AND ALL OF YOU LIKE IT, AND SUPPORT IT, AND THINK ITS GREAT. Talk about the US Open, and THE SBE like its GRAND. ITS A SHIT SHOW, where 1 person get's rich, and a few other people make MY months salary; working a REAL job.

Problem is people in the pool world are LAZY and want a quick fix, and an easy pay day, bunch of lock artists. You get people who are promoting today, because they CANT compete anymore, and they found a way to make money off the PLAYERS. No matter how much they "cry" they are for the players they are full of shit, they are for making MONEY.

THAT’S THE FATAL FLAW!

NOW, If you DON'T agree with my comments, then GO back and READ IT AGAIN, beucase you definately missed something.

Call me a dick all you want, but 90% of you who read this in it's entirety agree with me, the other 10% didn't read it all the way.


Can you answer one question? Is your name Mike?

I'm guessing it is, and if I'm correct you sir are the last one who should be giving advice on running a tour or the entirety of pool.

There's nothing wrong with the game, but when you can't draw the cueball more than 1/2 a foot I guess I can understand why you don't see things as they are.

If you're not Mike, yes you are still Richard and you remind me of another toolbag C player I know.
 
Can you answer one question? Is your name Mike?

I'm guessing it is, and if I'm correct you sir are the last one who should be giving advice on running a tour or the entirety of pool.

There's nothing wrong with the game, but when you can't draw the cueball more than 1/2 a foot I guess I can understand why you don't see things as they are.

If you're not Mike, yes you are still Richard and you remind me of another toolbag C player I know.

Nothing wrong with the game? Sir, you must be the biggest idiot of them all. You don't see there is a problem, well I guess you should read the private messages I am getting with people agreeing.

Pool at a professional level there is a flaw.

In Golf, Tennis, and other sports the players are ushered in on red carpets, and they make money for just showing up. Meanwhile Dennis Hatch, for example has to go to a pool hall play idiots like you, to make a living. He has no draw at all, and no one in the world cares about him as a Professional Player.

Problem is, everything at what you call a professional level is actually being ran by amateurs.

MASTER 9 BALLER, oh I am sorry I didn't know I was in the presance of such a great player... You must be on top of the money list with a name like that. Am iItalking to the likes of Johnny Archer?

Kid, keep touching your slef there, it will grow... Eventually... Master9Baller you sir, are great! Love the name. But you probably have never ran 3 racks in your life.
 
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Thanks Mike

So this is the great Mike Andrews who ran the DIMIRO tour into the ground and walked away with nearly 2 grand in player's money? Then bashed the great Allen Hopkins?

Pool is a beuaatiful and profitable game if you know how to play and understand your limitations. Your problem is you don't know what you don't know.

No lie I make $6,000-10,000 a year in this game for the past several years. Could I do that as an advanced amateur baseball player? I think not.

Anyway buddy you still get the called 7 + 8 anytime you're ready. Remember $500 posted. How about a race to 13 one time? You don't have the stones do you?
 
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So this is the great Mike Andrews who ran the DIMIRO tour into the ground and walked away with nearly 2 grand in player's money? Then bashed the great Allen Hopkins?

Pool is a beuaatiful and profitable game if you know how to play and understand your limitations. Your problem is you don't know what you don't know.

No lie I make $6,000-10,000 a year in this game for the past several years. Could I do that as an advanced amateur baseball player? I think not.

Anyway buddy you still get the called 7 + 8 anytime you're ready. Remember $500 posted. How about a race to 13 one time? You don't have the stones do you?

Really thats all I get, Brain you said I get the 6 out, anyday? How about we play Races to 5 for $200... But no your scared.

Besides no one ran off with any money, just ask the players. I am not bashing Allen btw, I am bashing the whole pool world. I will probably get banned, but I don't care. its Idiots like you that give pool a bad name.

I was at two diffrent tournaments in Febuary, where the players came up to me and said they wished I was running the event, becuase they knew the money would be right, and everyone would get paid.

Brian I have 10 times the heart, game, and gamble that you do. Your a good player, yes, I agree I have seen you play, but really bragging about beating me is like bragging you hit a home run from a high schoolers pitch.

You need to grow up, and stop talking to me at tournaments and trying to act all cool, beucase in Auburn I had 20+ freinds, you had ZERO. You had no one there that liked you lol.

Saturday at the Joss, plenty of people were talking about how much of an idiot you were, and I know you heard 1 person and I talking about you LOL.

Master9baller is the least liked pool player in Syracuse. I am one of the most liked tournament directors on the east coast. You will see one day sir, your money and gamble mean nothing to me, I have all the action I want and or need.
 
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So wait a minute.

U get the 6 and the other dude gets the 7&8?

How does that work?

This stupid while and I am one pissed off...
 
Even

LOL I am just as confused...

I don't need any weight, beucase then when I beat him its becuase of the weight I will play him even. All day.
 
Not to burst your bubble Mike, but I think that title would go to Mike Zuglan or Tony Robles, before you. You had a good idea. It didn't work (for various reasons). Time to move on.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I agree, and I have moved on... I am way past all of that... I never brought it up, and didn't intend on every again bringing it up.
 
I'll completely disagree with you because I don't think money will solve anything.

Pool has had money before.

We had it with RJ Reynolds.

We had it with Kevin Trudeau.

You can watch guys betting it up big in live streams for 5 figures.

The money is there.

What pool is seriously lacking, is maturity. I've been watching very closely for a long time. You could throw hundreds of thousands of dollars at some people, and they will still land flat on their asss because they don't how to effectively manage themselves or their money. In the absence of maturity, money will only makes things worse - or it will further complicate things.

If there is no return on the investment in the game of pool, why continue tossing money at it? The money and the financing should be there because we either earned it or attracted it - not because we begged for it or on some level believed that we deserved it.

People have been BORED watching tournament pool since the sixties - we need to change our success formula. I believe that when people produce live streams, they should produce them in the same way they would present the product to a television network. They should have professional quality commentary - not whomever grabbed the seat or the mic to BS with their buddies in the chat room, swearing, being immature. That might be a lot of fun, but IMO, it says a lot about the attitudes people have about pool getting out of this rut. That tells me that some people are comfortable with the way things are. I know a lot of people won't like me saying that, but its true - and I have scores of people (in and out of pool) that agree with that. You can have the best quality live stream in the world, but without a professional appearance and presentation to your product, you won't attract sponsors or positively promote the game at all.

Adjust the attitudes and maturity levels, and perhaps you'll see some changes. Until that happens it will be business as usual.
 
The real flaw is billiards need to be run by professionals not investors.

Most of the events are run like investors trying to be professionals.

And when investors manage events they can be real cheap sometimes.

Some of the player match-ups aren't even announced via email or posted on a website.

The incorporation of technology to run events is severely deficient almost to the point it is third world, at least in America.

When pool popped and technology peaked the two never met. I see a pool tournament today is run the same way it was 40 years ago, poorly and unprofessionally.

I will be very specific if your interested in a more detailed opinion.
 
Really thats all I get, Brain you said I get the 6 out, anyday? How about we play Races to 5 for $200... But no your scared.

Besides no one ran off with any money, just ask the players. I am not bashing Allen btw, I am bashing the whole pool world. I will probably get banned, but I don't care. its Idiots like you that give pool a bad name.

I was at two diffrent tournaments in Febuary, where the players came up to me and said they wished I was running the event, becuase they knew the money would be right, and everyone would get paid.

Brian I have 10 times the heart, game, and gamble that you do. Your a good player, yes, I agree I have seen you play, but really bragging about beating me is like bragging you hit a home run from a high schoolers pitch.

You need to grow up, and stop talking to me at tournaments and trying to act all cool, beucase in Auburn I had 20+ freinds, you had ZERO. You had no one there that liked you lol.

Saturday at the Joss, plenty of people were talking about how much of an idiot you were, and I know you heard 1 person and I talking about you LOL.

Master9baller is the least liked pool player in Syracuse. I am one of the most liked tournament directors on the east coast. You will see one day sir, your money and gamble mean nothing to me, I have all the action I want and or need.


Yeah I know that you need the 6 out, but you'll be getting to 7+8 called. How about that and all the breaks. If that's not enough maybe I can get sombody's kid sister to play you for lollipops or something.

You are a clown, and yes I hear the $hit you say, the threatening messages you have left on my phone about "breaking my jaw". Still nothing ever happens.

You $uck as a player and if you want to call yourself a tour promoter that's fine, but it's more like tour destroyer.

Anytime you want in any format, I give you the 7 out in life.

BTW I though you were banned, it's good to know that you're back again. Stay on the porch where you belong, little dog.
 
I'll completely disagree with you because I don't think money will solve anything.

Pool has had money before.

We had it with RJ Reynolds.

We had it with Kevin Trudeau.

You can watch guys betting it up big in live streams for 5 figures.

The money is there.

What pool is seriously lacking, is maturity. I've been watching very closely for a long time. You could throw hundreds of thousands of dollars at some people, and they will still land flat on their asss because they don't how to effectively manage themselves or their money. In the absence of maturity, money will only makes things worse - or it will further complicate things.

If there is no return on the investment in the game of pool, why continue tossing money at it? The money and the financing should be there because we either earned it or attracted it - not because we begged for it or on some level believed that we deserved it.

People have been BORED watching tournament pool since the sixties - we need to change our success formula. I believe that when people produce live streams, they should produce them in the same way they would present the product to a television network. They should have professional quality commentary - not whomever grabbed the seat or the mic to BS with their buddies in the chat room, swearing, being immature. That might be a lot of fun, but IMO, it says a lot about the attitudes people have about pool getting out of this rut. That tells me that some people are comfortable with the way things are. I know a lot of people won't like me saying that, but its true - and I have scores of people (in and out of pool) that agree with that. You can have the best quality live stream in the world, but without a professional appearance and presentation to your product, you won't attract sponsors or positively promote the game at all.

Adjust the attitudes and maturity levels, and perhaps you'll see some changes. Until that happens it will be business as usual.

Well said sir.
By the way I'd like to throw one little disagreement in with this. Golf and pool are the two most mental games (not sports) there are. I don't think you could train Andy Roddick or Kobe Bryant in pool and produce a champion. You would just have a banger who never needed to use the bridge. Golf, pool, and bowling do not require one to be athletic -or tall for that matter like most other sports do. I'm a good twenty pounds overweight but I can play a 20 hour session of pool just fine. Noone wants to watch a match that long anyway. It's endurance of the brain and focus that wins in pool, not your vertical jump or under six minute mile.
 
There are place where Pool is alive and well, there are places were Pool is in the DUMPS. IMHO Pool in the places where it is in the dump will change when those who are involved in running Pool start working together, look & see what is broken, and take avtion fix it.
 
action ok

Ok Brian you have action. $500 race to 11

10 ball rotate breaks. I get the 7 out called

Sunday 3 pm salt city be there.

Im flying to denver for work today i'll b
e back then.
So practice up my cues will be at home all week. We'll see who the coward is.
 
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