Possible Rambow on Ebay????

Well, I'm no expert on that, but people on eBay are going crazy for it saying it is a Rambow. They said the cue was made for a guy named Harry Harper, seems like the lady who got the cue probably got a really good deal on it.
 
Rambow

Hey Ghost, Merry Christmas

Harry Harper would have been the player Herman Rambow made the cue for.
Fairly typical

Thanks for the link

Ted
 
classiccues said:
Yep.. Rambow..

...love all the questions and comments...

JV
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Must have been some honest AZers
letting Sue know she has a treasure on her hands...
I like the fact that they were making sure she was
educated on this cue and trying to help her get
the most out of this auction...tap.tap.tap.
 
I think it was some people who should mind their own business. I will bet the bank that "Sue" isn't going back to the person she got it from with any of the windfall she makes on this auction.

If someone is selling something they know nothing about, I believe they need to do a little work to research it out prior to putting it on the market. If they don't, why should they make a profit? Sue isn't some little old lady that's being taken advantage of. She has over 2,000 sales on Ebay.

A couple of years ago, I bought a fancier Rambow than the one currently listed from an antique dealer that had it listed on Ebay. He had a Buy It Now price on it, which I gladly paid immediately via Paypal. Nobody should have had to tell an antique dealer to consult books if he didn't know what it was worth, and nobody held a gun to his head to determine what the cue was worth. The seller told me he'd paid a tenth of the price for a ladies entire estate that included the cue. Some helpful folks let this guy know what he was selling and he decided not to ship it to me as he now had a better offer. Fortunately, the guy sent me my money back, but he was basically now selling a stolen cue, as I had a Paypal receipt.

If these people were actually doing an act of kindness by warning someone that they were buying something that had been misrepresented, etc., that would be one thing. I think these folks are usually doing it just to be know it all types that used to be hall monitors in school.

I'm sure the folks that appreciate this kind of behavior might not be under the same impression if they were someone who had spent years learning about cues and were hoping for a good deal based on their own ability to spot these deals, and then having someone ruin the deal for them that had absolutely no stake in the deal to begin with. Imagine how popular you'd be if you stood outside a store and told everyone that walked in the door that they could buy cheaper at another store.

My read is that if you're not a part of the deal, stay the hell out of the deal...

Steve
 
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greyghost said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-HARRY-H...ultDomain_0?hash=item1e59b52c2d#ht_500wt_1182

never heard of Harry Harper and there is no maker in the blue book by this name...
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I think that while the butt may have been Converted by Rambo I think it is suspect because Herman was not signing his cues in this manner when that Model Willy Hoppe Cue was made by Brunswick. The cue pictured is a 40's model Brunswick Titlist cue and all the cues he was signing with flourishes were signed starting in the late 1950's. Even if the cue was made by Rambo the shafts are suspect. When Herman signed the butt of a cue he also signed the shafts and these shafts are not signed.

I also like the comments to the sellers auction from people who have viewed the auction, they are also suspect, I mean why would anyone who wished to try and win the cue tell all of ebay what it is worth. All I can say to anyone who may bid on this cue is buyer beware I think that the entire set up is a pile of shit looking to attract some flies!!!

JIMO
 
manwon said:
I think that while the butt may have been Converted by Rambo I think it is suspect because Herman was not signing his cues in this manner when that Model Willy Hoppe Cue was made by Brunswick. The cue pictured is a 40's model Brunswick Titlist cue and all the cues he was signing with flourishes were signed starting in the late 1950's. Even if the cue was made by Rambo the shafts are suspect. When Herman signed the butt of a cue he also signed the shafts and these shafts are not signed.

I also like the comments to the sellers auction from people who have viewed the auction, they are also suspect, I mean why would anyone who wished to try and win the cue tell all of ebay what it is worth. All I can say to anyone who may bid on this cue is buyer beware I think that the entire set up is a pile of shit looking to attract some flies!!!

JIMO
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C,

i agree with what your saying. Some of this doesn't jive, esp the questions from potential buyers.


A lot of variables can manifest themselves with a cue this old. i took a one piece "house" cue to H's shop in 58 or 59. he made a two piece cue out of it and put my name on the butt. i don't recall my name being on the shaft. it seems like getting your name on the cue cost a lil extra and i'm sure i was pinching pennies cause that's all i had.

it'll be interesting to know how this plays out.
 
ribdoner said:
C,

i agree with what your saying. Some of this doesn't jive, esp the questions from potential buyers.


A lot of variables can manifest themselves with a cue this old. i took a one piece "house" cue to H's shop in 58 or 59. he made a two piece cue out of it and put my name on the butt. i don't recall my name being on the shaft. it seems like getting your name on the cue cost a lil extra and i'm sure i was pinching pennies cause that's all i had.

it'll be interesting to know how this plays out.
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As always Adam that is some good information, because until your post I thought that all shafts were also signed, at least they have been on the cues that have come through my hands.

Takr Care Adam and Happy New Year
 
Willie Hoppe

Third cue from the right is a Rambow-Hoppe, no markings on the butt or the shaft, the second cue from the right has the players name on the butt and his initials on the shaft.


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Titlist007.jpg
 
Hunter said:
I think these folks are usually doing it just to be know it all types that used to be hall monitors in school.

My read is that if you're not a part of the deal, stay the hell out of the deal...

Steve
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TOO TRUE!!!!!!

Also, in agreement with Manwon and Adam. Additionally, was HR using screw on ferrules during this time? Also not used to seeing the bottom of his points that close together, although this wasn't near the precision art it is today. And that wrap is awfully perdy for being that old...

Either way, it is a sexy butt!
 
Hunter said:
I think it was some people who should mind their own business. I will bet the bank that "Sue" isn't going back to the person she got it from with any of the windfall she makes on this auction.

If someone is selling something they know nothing about, I believe they need to do a little work to research it out prior to putting it on the market. If they don't, why should they make a profit? Sue isn't some little old lady that's being taken advantage of. She has over 2,000 sales on Ebay.

A couple of years ago, I bought a fancier Rambow than the one currently listed from an antique dealer that had it listed on Ebay. He had a Buy It Now price on it, which I gladly paid immediately via Paypal. Nobody should have had to tell an antique dealer to consult books if he didn't know what it was worth, and nobody held a gun to his head to determine what the cue was worth. The seller told me he'd paid a tenth of the price for a ladies entire estate that included the cue. Some helpful folks let this guy know what he was selling and he decided not to ship it to me as he now had a better offer. Fortunately, the guy sent me my money back, but he was basically now selling a stolen cue, as I had a Paypal receipt.

If these people were actually doing an act of kindness by warning someone that they were buying something that had been misrepresented, etc., that would be one thing. I think these folks are usually doing it just to be know it all types that used to be hall monitors in school.

I'm sure the folks that appreciate this kind of behavior might not be under the same impression if they were someone who had spent years learning about cues and were hoping for a good deal based on their own ability to spot these deals, and then having someone ruin the deal for them that had absolutely no stake in the deal to begin with. Imagine how popular you'd be if you stood outside a store and told everyone that walked in the door that they could buy cheaper at another store.

My read is that if you're not a part of the deal, stay the hell out of the deal...

Steve
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Steve,
I have been preaching this for years. Same thing happened to a friend of mine, agreed to a price and then someone came in higher after the guy told him he had it.

So when people complain about paying high cue prices, I just point to these auctions. Here you might get a good buy on a cue but some nit who wants to hear himself talk, might shank you.

JV
 
half fast bankr said:
TOO TRUE!!!!!!

Also, in agreement with Manwon and Adam. Additionally, was HR using screw on ferrules during this time? Also not used to seeing the bottom of his points that close together, although this wasn't near the precision art it is today. And that wrap is awfully perdy for being that old...

Either way, it is a sexy butt!
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Well the cue appears to be coming out of a NJ estate, this cue could have easily been worked on by Paradise or Palmer. It is reasonable to think they could have made a shaft, and rewrapped the cue at some point.

JV
 
Hunter said:
I think it was some people who should mind their own business. I will bet the bank that "Sue" isn't going back to the person she got it from with any of the windfall she makes on this auction.

If someone is selling something they know nothing about, I believe they need to do a little work to research it out prior to putting it on the market. If they don't, why should they make a profit? Sue isn't some little old lady that's being taken advantage of. She has over 2,000 sales on Ebay.

A couple of years ago, I bought a fancier Rambow than the one currently listed from an antique dealer that had it listed on Ebay. He had a Buy It Now price on it, which I gladly paid immediately via Paypal. Nobody should have had to tell an antique dealer to consult books if he didn't know what it was worth, and nobody held a gun to his head to determine what the cue was worth. The seller told me he'd paid a tenth of the price for a ladies entire estate that included the cue. Some helpful folks let this guy know what he was selling and he decided not to ship it to me as he now had a better offer. Fortunately, the guy sent me my money back, but he was basically now selling a stolen cue, as I had a Paypal receipt.

If these people were actually doing an act of kindness by warning someone that they were buying something that had been misrepresented, etc., that would be one thing. I think these folks are usually doing it just to be know it all types that used to be hall monitors in school.

I'm sure the folks that appreciate this kind of behavior might not be under the same impression if they were someone who had spent years learning about cues and were hoping for a good deal based on their own ability to spot these deals, and then having someone ruin the deal for them that had absolutely no stake in the deal to begin with. Imagine how popular you'd be if you stood outside a store and told everyone that walked in the door that they could buy cheaper at another store.

My read is that if you're not a part of the deal, stay the hell out of the deal...

Steve
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Well said but what would Bill do with his spare time?
 
classiccues said:
Steve,
I have been preaching this for years. Same thing happened to a friend of mine, agreed to a price and then someone came in higher after the guy told him he had it.

So when people complain about paying high cue prices, I just point to these auctions. Here you might get a good buy on a cue but some nit who wants to hear himself talk, might shank you.

JV
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I just had the same thing happen to me, except I was making a deal for a hard to find car. I got screwed over when someone offered him more, than the other guy that offered more blew off the seller, than I had to come back in to the deal for an extra $500 to make sure I got the car.

Anyways, I looked up Harry Harper. the Harry Harper in question could be a normal person, or maybe it was a guy that was a pro baseball player.
 
Hunter said:
I think these folks are usually doing it just to be know it all types that used to be hall monitors in school.
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Hall monitor's, they are the worst. Another thing that is always nice is when someone posts a link to an item that has been misrepresented in the listing (misspelled, wrong category, wrong information etc.... For instance, there have been a few Jack Justis cases on Ebay and the seller spells the name wrong and and it seems no one catches it until a thread pops up on AZ and then you can forget about getting a good deal. I bought an old Pechauer cue and hand tooled leather case froma pawn shop in Texas off Ebay because it was listed wrong and got a great deal on it. I have also bid on several items and just before the time is up someone knocks it and queers the deal by letting everyone in the world know it's on there.
 

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