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Have it from a reliable source that Predator's are now made in China. I know of one company that has now quit carrying them and replaced them with Tiger X shafts. They packed up all Predator shafts and sent them back...word is quality is slipping.
 
Varney Cues said:
Have it from a reliable source that Predator's are now made in China. I know of one company that has now quit carrying them and replaced them with Tiger X shafts. They packed up all Predator shafts and sent them back...word is quality is slipping.

You are saying now the shafts as well as the butts are also being made in China? I had heard a couple of years ago that Falcon was manufacturing the butt portions for Predator and that it was done in China.
 
rackem said:
You are saying now the shafts as well as the butts are also being made in China? I had heard a couple of years ago that Falcon was manufacturing the butt portions for Predator and that it was done in China.

It's true Falcon was manufacturing the butt portions for Predator. That was while Falcon was still based in Canada. However, Falcon has made the move to Taiwan for their manufacturing, and all new Falcons starting in September will be coming out of Taiwan. Any existing Falcon you find right now from their currently existing lines will all have been made in Canada.
 
It seems everybody sells out eventually....:( ....I'm not a big fan of Predator to begin with....McDermotts seem to have gone down in quality aswell since Jim left...
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Even if true, why would manufacturing a pool cue in China necessarily bring lower quality?
 
Well I happen to be a BIG FAN OF PREDATOR, and with that being said who cares where it's made as long as the quaility is there. It's just sad to black ball a company because of where the product is made, even if it's the best available. More comapnies go out of business because of attitudes that have been presented here, and besides that what makes any of you an authority on what a company does. As long as someone is not mis-representing where the shafts or the butts are being made there shouldn't be an issue. The products have lifetime warranties on them, there's never been any issues with Predator standing behind their products. If there's never been issue in the past untill some real issues start to surface then cut the crap.

By the way what kind of cars do you guy's drive?

Black Cat :mad:
 
the facts are that anytime a company dumps american manufacturing for overseas it is to lessen production costs. Now along with that usually comes a quality decrease. I like predator but will be very cautious to check the quality of the product before putting a ton of them in the store.
That does not mean you can't set up shop in china and still produce good products, it is just likely that we will see lower quality than what we have come to expect
 
Well, we no longer carry Predator Products. Not because of a quality issue nor a country of origin issue. More to do with conflicting philosophies of how to do business. We sold quite a bit of Predator's products and always had plenty of stock on hand. Quite a standing investment if you will.

We are offering Tiger shafts and other products. The Tiger Shafts were not brought in to replace Predator but to exist alongside them. We find the Tiger shafts to be well made and getting favorable reviews from players. It is in response to customer requests that we have added Tiger to the line and we look forward to selling as many or more of these shafts as we did with Predator.

We find that there are excellent alternatives to the Predator shaft on the market and we plan to offer as many of these as our customers would like to see us offer. Predator has blazed a trail with their excellent research and marketing and we intend to follow their lead and add to their excellent body of work. We feel that with our sister company's engineering and testing capabilities we can test, compare and manufacture shafts and cues that are excellent performers technologically and aesthically beautiful.

John
 
Varney Cues said:
Have it from a reliable source that Predator's are now made in China. I know of one company that has now quit carrying them and replaced them with Tiger X shafts. They packed up all Predator shafts and sent them back...word is quality is slipping.


Hear that also Butts & Shafts form CHINA...:)
 
Several large 'American' production cue companies, and the largest wholesalers, including Cuestix, Cue & Case, and Sterling Gaming, all manufacture their product lines in China. That's no secret. Quality does not necessarily suffer...although there will always be some substandard manufacturing, regardless of where something is made. Lucasi and Fury are both well made, inexpensive, lines, even though they come from China. Can you find crappy cues made in China? Sure...just like you can find crappy cues made here too. However, truth be told, probably 80%+ of the cues made anywhere, for any company (American or not), come out of China...they just have a bunch of different names on them (many of which are very recognizable).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
predator said:
Even if true, why would manufacturing a pool cue in China necessarily bring lower quality?

Because they play mostly Snooker in China ... lol
 
I know a fellow pool player who is a long standing predator shaft advocate, such as myself. He tried the new Tiger X shaft, and I asked him his honest opinion. He said, while it is a good shaft, it pales in comparison to the predator. As for me, I've used predator shafts for years and won't switch. Whether it is made in America, Mexico, or Anartica, if it meets the same standards of the past I will be happy.

You shouldn't discount a product just because it is made overseas.
 
All this Predator bashing sure sounds like a bunch of dealers who are trying to peddle a product line that has a higher margin.

The Predator still performs best

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Why is that everyone is asked for their "honest" opinon? I have never been asked for my "dishonest" one. Asking me for my "honest" one assumes that I have more than one opinon on anything. I suppose it's another way of saying you don't want the "politically correct" one. I tend to just ask and interpret the answer I get without quantifying the answer before I get it.

John
 
predator said:
Even if true, why would manufacturing a pool cue in China necessarily bring lower quality?
B/c they are not moving there to improve quality?
 
This is an issue, not only with pool cues, but with almost any other product being made.
 
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