Pathetic Shark
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Really? Like who?
Proposed TAR - TOI VS NO AIMING SYSTEM
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Really? Like who?
That was me. And if you play a safe I can just roll out again. There is no ball in hand.
If the pocket was 4 1/2" wide, wouldn't the balls (being 2 1/4" apiece) fit into the pocket easily?
To me (in the video), they look like they are only slightly over 1/3rd into the pocket with the center of the balls on the bed of the table, outside the mouth of the pocket.
I think I can - will try it and let you know how it goes. Always up for a challenge.
I have been wrong before however.
I have been wrong before however.
I think those pockets look just about like mine. Mine are 4.5 inches.
I do think I could run 15. It would probably take me a while. I don't think I could ever run 29 in a row. I'm not so sure these were run consecutively, but I guess we will just have to take CJ's word for that. He's certainly good enough to run 29 in a row so I don't see why it's that big of deal either way.
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First time I ran across this expression it was tattooed on the neck of a checkout girl at a gas station.
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With only ten seconds thought into it, I can come up with at least 5. Try giving it some thought.
With only ten seconds thought into it, I can come up with at least 5. Try giving it some thought.
Can you name them please? I'm not questioning there are people here who can do it (I have no idea) but am genuinely interested.
Probably not. And neither could CJ.
The balls were run on two separate occasions, not consecutively. Not to try to take away anything from the individual runs, but why gild the lily to make it seem more amazing than it really is?
He ran the first rack and then left. Presumably Mary was reviewing the video and probably messing around on the table. Then CJ comes back and she tells him he has to try it again because he only ran 14. He steps up and runs 15. Thus consecutively.
That's what I got out of the video.
Anthony and Neil are simply nitpicking.
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CJ has defended the video edit in a previous thread. Says its legit...
Creedo: If I participate in the poll must I wade through their 10 step program again ?
Reading that the first time was akin to sniffing airplane glue at a barn burning.
Would somebody start barking again and show some teeth please ? (Not Lou and John) [No John I'm not policing your posts, but the :deadhorse: is not going to e-mail you]
Can we get Wilson in here to issue a few "last chance" warnings to those who know who they are ? J/K ya'll have been pretty civil.
Anyone care for a game of 3-ball ? Much harder than you realize (not going there) when everyone has to double down.
CJ has defended the video edit in a previous thread. Says its legit...
Creedo: If I participate in the poll must I wade through their 10 step program again ?
Reading that the first time was akin to sniffing airplane glue at a barn burning.
Would somebody start barking again and show some teeth please ? (Not Lou and John) [No John I'm not policing your posts, but the :deadhorse: is not going to e-mail you]
Can we get Wilson in here to issue a few "last chance" warnings to those who know who they are ? J/K ya'll have been pretty civil.
Anyone care for a game of 3-ball ? Much harder than you realize (not going there) when everyone has to double down.
If a guy in a tournament runs a rack then takes a five minute break and comes back and runs another rack did he run them consecutively or not?
No need to gild the lily or fabricate anything.
In Greg Sullivan's video, he explained that 4 1/2' pockets, he was able to place 2 balls into the mouth of the pocket and still have approx. 1/16" gap in between the balls. (I wish he would have shown an overhead shot of the striped balls in the pocket so I could have seen how deep they were).
Both your picture and CJ's video show less than that.
I do not think that Cj's pockets are 4" wide, but I also do not think that they are 4 1/2".
Still, 29 balls is an accomplishment.
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Now come on....I didn't really want to join the nitpicking crowd but do you really think Mary could have been messing around on the table and THEN remembered that CJ forgot to spot that ball? Then they followed it up with the whole bit where CJ walks into the room and they have this "unscripted" conversation. That doesn't seem very plausible.
Oh well though -- even if CJ did these racks within the same hour I would be impressed. It was a cool display either way.
I'll leave it at that.
One other thing....running 15 balls and then going ahead and trying to run another rack is much easier than setting out to run two racks in a row to begin with. I would be shocked if any of the non pros on this site could run two racks in a row in this fashion.
I'll really leave it at that.
OK, so NOW CJ has become Steven Speilberg and is manipulating the videos to satisfy the popcorn eating audience? Is that what you are saying?
I don't know if he did it consecutively or not, but that adds mystery to whether anyone thinks he can play at that level or not.
For all you people who think he DID manipulate the video, jump on your OWN tables and lets get a video of YOU running only ONE rack of balls into the same pocket like he did. I will guarantee it will take you MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE times to run just ONE rack, IF YOU EVER DO!
Even if it took him 10 tries to do it, I bet it will take MANY more than that before the average shortstop does it.
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I don't want to break this down like the Zapruder film, but why does CJ go off screen at 6:14? It struck me as a very odd thing to do when I watched the clip the first time. It would be an easy thing to splice in subsequent attempts to run the second rack into that point of the tape to give the appearance that the runs happened consecutively.
Second, I've seen a strong shortstop at Hard Times scatter 15 balls on a table (all over the table, mind you, with as many balls above the side pockets as below them) and then bang every one into one corner pocket like he was shooting spot shots with ball in hand. The whole time, he was carrying on a conversation with a friend. The entire run took less than 2 minutes. Judging by this exhibition, I'd say it wouldn't take this guy more than 10 tries to run 29.
No knocking, just saying.
Pax,
Taek
Second, I've seen a strong shortstop at Hard Times scatter 15 balls on a table (all over the table, mind you, with as many balls above the side pockets as below them) and then bang every one into one corner pocket like he was shooting spot shots with ball in hand. The whole time, he was carrying on a conversation with a friend. The entire run took less than 2 minutes. Judging by this exhibition, I'd say it wouldn't take this guy more than 10 tries to run 29.
No knocking, just saying.
Pax,
Taek
Pathetic Shark
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Agreed. I enjoyed watching CJs one pocket videos, whether doctored or no. What struck me about them is how economically he plays - he knows exactly where he wants to put the CB and puts it exactly there. Deceptively difficult to do.
The difference between pros and shortstops.
Gild the Lilly.
Barton waxes poetic...
Remember more barking!
Can I use that JB?
Barton waxes poetic...
Remember more barking!
Can I use that JB?
How do you know he took a five-minute break? The balls aren't even anywhere close to where he left them in their respective pockets. What did he do, take them all out and put them back in again in the lower two pockets and yet not make a shot between the two racks?
Look again. The 14 was the first ball pocketed, then all of a sudden it's up on top of about 8 balls in the same pocket? How'd that happen during a five-minute break? C'mon, get real. I don't care how many racks CJ says he can run consecutively, this is video proof of nothing.
"Real eyes, realize, real lies", right CJ? Or as I always say, "What my eyes see, my heart must believe".
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They may not post a lot, but they are members here: Shannon Daulton, Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, Shane Van Boening, Charlie Williams. That's just five obvious ones. Push comes to shove, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that there are over 20 on here that can do it. Some names you may not even realize that they can play.