Question: Paying Opponent's Table Time

kath13

kath13

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How does everyone handle paying your opponent's table time if you have won? I've heard that it shouldn't exceed 30% of your total winnings, which seems a bit excessive to me. At what point do you choose not to pay their time? Not everyone agrees to split time before a match-up and I'm curious how other people handle this issue. Is there a standard rule that everyone follows or does it just depend on the players and amount won?
 
kath13 said:
How does everyone handle paying your opponent's table time if you have won? I've heard that it shouldn't exceed 30% of your total winnings, which seems a bit excessive to me. At what point do you choose not to pay their time? Not everyone agrees to split time before a match-up and I'm curious how other people handle this issue. Is there a standard rule that everyone follows or does it just depend on the players and amount won?
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I don't think there's a standard rule. If you're playing for a small amount of money, and you win a small amount of money, then who really cares, you know? If you win enough that paying the time is no big deal, then pay the time (or if you bust the person then, of course, pay the time).

You also have to consider, beating someone out of their money and then making them pay their own time is poor etiquette and doing so may cost you further action in the future. Keep your customers happy. ;)
 
Jimmy M. said:
I don't think there's a standard rule. If you're playing for a small amount of money, and you win a small amount of money, then who really cares, you know? If you win enough that paying the time is no big deal, then pay the time (or if you bust the person then, of course, pay the time).

You also have to consider, beating someone out of their money and then making them pay their own time is poor etiquette and doing so may cost you further action in the future. Keep your customers happy. ;)
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Jimmy, what if you bust them and the time is more than you won?
 
depends on how you feel. depending on how long you've been playing and for how much and how much you came out ahead.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
depends on how you feel. depending on how long you've been playing and for how much and how much you came out ahead.
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Okay, so basically no rules. The reason I asked is that recently experienced some disputes on this issue. I played for about 5 hours and came out $40 winner, I know, I know, but what can I say, I don't play for a lot. He put up such a fuss, I paid, after time, I came out $15 dollar winner and it got me thinking, why did I just pay for his time? Another instance, time came out to $40 for both players, which left only $40 winner. How can the other player expect for you to pay out 50% of your winnings, but they do? If you win hundreds fine, pay the time, no problem with that. Even then, I've seen players walk away and say, not my problem.
 
Also ask if they have an all day rate at the counter. The place I go you can play all day until midnight for 10 bucks. by time rate you would use that up in 2 hours
 
At one of the poolhalls I used to play out of it was standard to cover the time if you won more that $100.....Ron
 
There's no hard and fast rule, but when the winnings FAR exceed the time, PAY IT ! When you win $40 and the time is $25....NOPE. Split it. It motivates your opponent to play better next time...Tom
 
Agree

TXsouthpaw said:
play some where that u can get free table time. Or play on a free night. save your money
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If you're gonna play cheap, play where it's free or flat rate.

Player that play cheap usually expect to split the time if there is any. Make it clear up front is the best way.

Ray
 
Agreed

Bigtruck said:
If you're gonna play cheap, play where it's free or flat rate.

Player that play cheap usually expect to split the time if there is any. Make it clear up front is the best way.

Ray
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There were times in my early days that this was an issue, but I quickly learned to discuss it before we started playing...whatever you do keep it friendly if you want your fish to come back...:thumbup:
 
Where I grew up, it was customary to include it in the bet. Playing by the game was the most common bets, so you would play for say.. "time and 10" or "time and 20" etc The winner actually came away from the bet with the FULL amount of the wager.
In places I play now, I only pick up the time if the win is 100 or more.
Chuck
 
RonsTheOne said:
At one of the poolhalls I used to play out of it was standard to cover the time if you won more that $100.....Ron
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Yeah this seems to be pretty standard. When I've played and won in the $20-40 range we've always split time. Any time I've won over about $100 I've always paid time. Strangely, I've never had a session in the middle range there, I guess because I'm either playing $2-5 games/sets against buddies or $20-100 games/sets against people who don't know me but think they're better than me.

If I won $40 off someone after 5 hours of play and he wanted me to pick up the entire $25 tab I would probably never play that guy again, unless it's for a lot more money.
 
Playing for small stake I always let each person pay their own time. This happens often, there is a pool hall nearby that I don't really care for... but they have decent tables and nice daily rate whereas my preferred pool hall jut has a flat hourly rate.

In anycase, at the one with the nice daily rate theres a lot of players that want shoot for anywhere between 5-10 dollars a game... People just trying to make money for smokes and what not.
Its really cheap competition... occasionally I'll run into a really good shooter, but like I said mainly just easy practice... but one pocket for 5 or 10 dollars a game really isn't worth it from a financial gain perspective... so I'm sure as hell ain't going to pay their pool time.

I've never busted someone there... when playing for such small stakes it ain't worth busting somebody. You win a few games, and then you dump a game or two and make sure your opponent walks out with money for the pool time and smokes. When playing for small stakes like its just bad karma to take too much of someones cash especially if your sitting on a lot of nutz. Another thing if your opponent ever runs into some good fortune and wants to raise the stakes, you don't want to leave a couple balls between you and his new found stash.
 
Jimmy M. said:
You also have to consider, beating someone out of their money and then making them pay their own time is poor etiquette and doing so may cost you further action in the future. Keep your customers happy. ;)
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"Spoken like a true prodigy."
As an example: one of the bigger go-offs in the area lost a decent amount of $ to another player recently. The losing players time was less than 7% of his losses and the winner failed to pay his tab. In doing so, he may have lost the go-off for good just on principle.:(
 
dogginda9 said:
"Spoken like a true prodigy."
As an example: one of the bigger go-offs in the area lost a decent amount of $ to another player recently. The losing players time was less than 7% of his losses and the winner failed to pay his tab. In doing so, he may have lost the go-off for good just on principle.:(
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Yup, not only is it good etiquette toward them but a good policy for you.
I would pay the time and if they still owed me a small percentage of what I won I would tell them to forget it. Next time we met they may shy away from me if they still owed, even if they had cash in their pocket.

Not owing anything we might play again.
 
I always thought it was agreed upon before you played. $$ plus time. If the dollar amount is small then don't agree that you will pay the time. If you play for small dollars say $10 sets and play for 3 hours, the guy who losers is the financial winner. Agree to split the time.
 
The other day I played a guy for 12 hours straight playing races to 5 nine ball for $150 a set. After 10 hours I was up 1 set. I had a chance to close the guy out after about 5 hours but I sluffed off a few sets I should have won because I didn't bare down. At the end of the night I caught a gear and beat the guy 5-0, 5-1 to end up $450 winner for the night. The houseman took two hours off the time and the bill was still $80 for both of us and I gave him an extra $20. Now if I wouldn't have won those last two sets I would have came out $50 winner for 12 hours of play. That would have been brutal.
 
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