Quitting winner...eh, when can I quit

[elvicash]

Poker player quit when they want why is pool different. Same thing with sports, lets say I bet someone on a football game, I payoff and he does not want to bet another game it is usually not a big deal NASCAR etc.

Pool appears to be more personal when you quit winner. Try it in a pool hall and a lot of guys will gripe, call you a nit whatever. However watch players that bet high and you will see how to handle it as this is not really an issue. Some guy quits in the middle of a session it is not always the guy stuck. The quitting winner issue and complaining about it is alot more prevalent on the low end of the wagering.

I got stuck playing some cheap the other day and the guy quit a little winner he had to run an errand. It was not problem for me. If someone is quitting winner thats on them they can quit, I do not have to play them again but I will if I like the game if not then I will not play. It is not a personal thing for me.

As far as quitting winner when someone is trying to trap you to bet something a little higher, I think that is funny and good for the guy quitting.

 

[ironman]

Really ? There is a certain "gamblers code" ? Let's inspect that code a little closer,, shall we ?
I believe this is really an "old hustlers" code that has moved mainstream !!!

They dump a set if it makes them more money. They hustle unsuspecting suckers by playing at less then full speed or they have an accomplice to help them with the hustle. I think pool players invented the "Dine and Dash" technique. Only gamblers play on "air", without informing their opponent they have NO cash. Sharking is a techique best used with money on the line, is it not ?

Pool players (gamblers) are by nature "rogues and scoundrels" and I mean that in the nicest possible way. I've read Freddy the Beard's book three times and it gets funnier each time !!

So, now they have a "code of conduct" for gambling that they expect the "rest" of us to abide by at all costs... and it always favors the gambler. He wants to keep playing until he busts your dumb A**, and it might take all night, and the code says you SHOULD stay. He can't make NO money if you quit winner !!

The gambler might miss his next three child support payments, but damn it, "we" need to follow this "code of conduct" as to breach it will be morally wrong I guess ?

Actually, when you think about it, that is ingenious. The last scam they have is even when they are losing, they make you sound like the hustler by telling you that you can't quite winner on them because it aint the "ethical" thing to do !!! And it works MOST of the time ! They got all the angles worked out that's for sure.., you gotta love it.... LOL..

Never mind, why even bother!!!!

 

[Jadssons]

Quitting winner is for nits that are too scared and shouldn't be gambling to start with. And, comparing pool to poker is a foolish agrument.

 

[trustyrusty]

Quitting winner is for nits that are too scared and shouldn't be gambling to start with. And, comparing pool to poker is a foolish agrument.

nope, nits are the guys that woof and woof, and finally after giving into their demands (their game, spot etc.) they quit LOSER after one game or set, whatever, cuz they realize they can't even win with what they thought was a lock.....I hate that MUCH more than a guy being up a couple of sets and conveniently having to excuse himself (has to leave).

I guess I don't run into having to quit winner often since I'll get into bad games just for the added challenge. I have someone I play 1P with that we play close with me giving up 9-6, but being up a few $$ on him we do 10-6 now, and he's up a few....I like the added challenge, and I bet he likes the extra cash. LOL

 

[Cheessehead]

never

never,never,never. unless you have stipulated a time frame or agreed on a number of sets. if not, then just give the guy his money back. It's called gambling ethics. everyone should have it ,if not, don't gamble.

 

[jcrack_corn]

lol @ never quit winner...

it is poor form to all of a sudden quit, but letting someone know you have to go in 30 mins (i think that is fair, do 1 hour or more if you want) is very courteous. I ALWAYS offer them to double or nothing OR any number of odds (hey, i figure I'm a favorite right!?).

In golf, it is absolutely standard to double or nothing the last hole, FYI....it would be considered very poor form if you didnt give someone an chance to break even --- but as in golf, if you win the double up, collect your money and go home.

I do know some people who will try to get you into an infinite double or nothing until they are back to zero...they get no pool, poker, or golf action from me.

 

[foxcues]

A few years ago I played a room owner.He had known me for about 5 years as I always played in his tournaments.He always wanted to play even and I always wanted the wild 8.
Finally one night he gave me the 8 and we started out at $50 a set.I won the first 2 sets (close races).I`m up $100 and he wants to give me the call 8 for $100.I agree and win that set,so now I`m up $200.We play again with me getting the last 2 for $200 and I win.I`m up $400 now and he wants to play even for $400.I did and won so I`m up $800.We play again for $800 and it went hill hill and I won.I`m up $1,600.All of the races were close.
By this time it is 6a.m. and I have to be at work at 8.He wanted to keep playing and doubling up,but we had already played for 14 hours(long races)and sooner or later he would win and be even.I quit(after that amount of time and giving him the double up option it was fair).I had about 5k on me that night so he stood to win something also.
That was on a monday,I came back on wed and we played 5 ahead for $500 and I won then we did the same 5 ahead for $500 again and I won.I`m up $2600 now.
We played again the following monday and played 10 ahead for a dime,after 7 hours we were dead even and we both wanted to quit.
The following wed we played 5 ahead for $500 and I lost the first set.I had told him I wasn`t feeling good before we started but I wanted to give him a shot at his money back.After I lost the set I told him I would play him again but at a later date because I had something wrong with me and didn`t feel good.He had beat me very easily that set and he could tell something was wrong with me.
He got mad because I pulled up.I told him I would play again but not that night.I left the poolroom at midnight.At 3am I went to the emergency room and was in the hospital for a week.I was a undiagnosed diabetic with a blood sugar level of 456 and a liver problem.I was home bound and on disability for 8 months.
It took almost 1 1/2 years before I was able to play comfortably again(bending over hurt).In that time his game picked up about a 2 balls and mine dropped.Since then he only wants to play even and I have no chance even or with the 8 so we haven`t played.I will always give him a chance at his money back if we can get together on a game.
Since I`m not a strong player I very seldom play anyone I don`t know so I know who will gamble and who will nit .I don`t gamble with the 1 set wonders.

 

[trustyrusty]

lol @ never quit winner...

it is poor form to all of a sudden quit, but letting someone know you have to go in 30 mins (i think that is fair, do 1 hour or more if you want) is very courteous. I ALWAYS offer them to double or nothing OR any number of odds (hey, i figure I'm a favorite right!?).

In golf, it is absolutely standard to double or nothing the last hole, FYI....it would be considered very poor form if you didnt give someone an chance to break even --- but as in golf, if you win the double up, collect your money and go home.

I do know some people who will try to get you into an infinite double or nothing until they are back to zero...they get no pool, poker, or golf action from me.

haha, love the press on the 18th tee....but I rarely "collect and go home"....1st round at the 19th hole is on me. :thumbup:

 

[Neil]

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[iusedtoberich]

I'm of the school that you don't quit winner. It definitely will cost you action with me, and LOTS of other players like me. Sure, there are special circumstances, but in general, its just not done.

I was playing one guy in a prop game. I always beat him at this game. It was pitching my full size spare tire against the pool room door after it closed. We did it all summer long and I always won. I beat him for a few thousand during the summer. This particular night, it was raining, and that completely changed the way the tire rolled. I just could not adjust for the rain, and he was KILLING ME. He was up about 300, at 20 a roll. We were doing it for about 3 hrs, and then he says to me, 3 more rolls. I was SUPER HOT, cause he was quitting me. Now, we were both bums and had no job to go to or "normal people" responsibilities. I had several thousand on me and I'm a go-off, and he knew it. Anyway, the next day, I went up to him and THANKED him for quitting me and saving me all that money. In fact, I've been thanking him for this for 10 years, to remind him how dumb he was to quit me.

 

[Bigtruck]

I'm of the school that you don't quit winner. It definitely will cost you action with me, and LOTS of other players like me. Sure, there are special circumstances, but in general, its just not done.

I was playing one guy in a prop game. I always beat him at this game. It was pitching my full size spare tire against the pool room door after it closed. We did it all summer long and I always won. I beat him for a few thousand during the summer. This particular night, it was raining, and that completely changed the way the tire rolled. I just could not adjust for the rain, and he was KILLING ME. He was up about 300, at 20 a roll. We were doing it for about 3 hrs, and then he says to me, 3 more rolls. I was SUPER HOT, cause he was quitting me. Now, we were both bums and had no job to go to or "normal people" responsibilities. I had several thousand on me and I'm a go-off, and he knew it. Anyway, the next day, I went up to him and THANKED him for quitting me and saving me all that money. In fact, I've been thanking him for this for 10 years, to remind him how dumb he was to quit me.

LMAO, Funny story!

I had a guy that I was playing for $2 while waiting for a friend to hit some balls. This guy WOULD NOT quit, even though I never lost a game! After 23 games in a row, he finally quit! I sure wanted to quit winners on him!

Back in "the day" 4 of us used to get together for Farkle for cash. Many times we played till the sun came up because the loser was stubborn! lol.

Ahhhh, the good times. I'm calling some old buddies right now!

Ray

 

[JustPlay]

never,never,never. unless you have stipulated a time frame or agreed on a number of sets. if not, then just give the guy his money back. It's called gambling ethics. everyone should have it ,if not, don't gamble.

So, if someone beats you a few sets then quits, he should give you your money back? If you win money from the first pull a slot machine (example $1000), do you put the money back in so the casino can win its money back?

No such thing as gambling ethics. Ask any pool hustler.

 

[9 on the snap]

Why would you ever quit if you are winning, and the fish still has some scales left?:grin:

 

[trustyrusty]

Why would you ever quit if you are winning, and the fish still has some scales left?:grin:

maybe cuz dinner with the wife and kid beats winning a few bucks any day of the week for some.....

btw, I know winning more $$ could pay for dinner at a nice place, but I could do that anyways....so maybe I want dinner at 7pm instead of 10pm or some other nite. Besides, some other nite can become a habit, and one that I don't want to form. I like to play as much as anyone, but I have many things I put above playing, or taking someone else's money. priorities

 

[Mt. Cheverest]

So, if someone beats you a few sets then quits, he should give you your money back? If you win money from the first pull a slot machine (example $1000), do you put the money back in so the casino can win its money back?

No such thing as gambling ethics. Ask any pool hustler.

How can you compare pulling a slot machine to matching up in pool? Yes, they are both gambling but are WAY different.

 

[Neil]

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[mikeyfrost]

This is the best thread in the world, get to enter the minds of the nittiest players, they are like a sample for the general pool playing population. News flash next time you cant get a game dont always think its cause you play good, it might be cause you know who you're playing. That's why I try to stay away from people with weak hearted backers and/or tiny bank rolls....even if you win you still lose.

 

[dabarbr]

I tried to never quit someone when I was winning but it never bothered me when they were winning and quit me.

What really bothered me is when they had a pocket full of cash and they quit me after only losing a few games. lol

 

[9 on the snap]

maybe cuz dinner with the wife and kid beats winning a few bucks any day of the week for some.....

btw, I know winning more $$ could pay for dinner at a nice place, but I could do that anyways....so maybe I want dinner at 7pm instead of 10pm or some other nite. Besides, some other nite can become a habit, and one that I don't want to form. I like to play as much as anyone, but I have many things I put above playing, or taking someone else's money. priorities

That's fine, I respect your priorities. I on the otherhand keep playing if I am winning. My wife undestands that if there is an ATM at the poolroom that's spitting out $20 bills I am gonna stay. It's not like it happens every day, and I play mostly at home anyway. It ain't about needing the money to buy her dinner either, as a CPA I earn plenty. I think Eddie said it best: "Money won is twice as sweet as money earned!" That's just me. I respect other viewpoints, but I don't necessarily understand them.

 

[JustPlay]

How can you compare pulling a slot machine to matching up in pool? Yes, they are both gambling but are WAY different.

Taking a chance on winning or losing- aka gambling. If a pool hustler is trying to hustle you and "dumps" a few sets or games to you and you quit winner, should you allow him to win his money back? Is that unethical?

Isn't the point of "gambling"- to take a chance, win or lose, with the HOPES of winning?

Set aside the skill sets one may have to give himself the best chance to win, when luck will prevail for the winner. Weather it be a "bad roll", lucky "break", "missed" shot by opponent or a "miscue". Gambling is Gambling.


If you beat a blackjack dealer out of money, would you offer him a chance to win the money back? MT. Cheverest, just like pool, you owe your opponent nothing. You gambled, he gambled you are both taking a chance period!