It was rack your own this year.
Racking Grief
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It was rack your own this year.
JC
Coos Cues
Oh, thanks! Maybe I will go next year.
One thing they could add is that rack with laser lights. Then the rack could then be inspected for tilting fairly easy. Comments anyone?
The No Conflict Rules are an easy sell. Eight Tri-State Opens have shown that. I won't go over all that again.
What makes the rules so well received is the fact that the shooter is enabled. He shoots when he gets unlucky and breaks dry. The players like that. In Pat Fleming's rules, the shooter is disabled. Take the cue out of his hands. Impossible sell. The players do not like that.
My advice rather than waiting to see what people say: Try it, see what it means, and make your own determination.
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The next Tri-State Event using the No Conflict Rules is a triple eleimination event scheduled for late February. The details are coming soon.
I would like to see your data on this...because with all due respect it sounds pretty far fetched. Lets rack up 50 racks of 10 ball. Shane will break 50 times (and lets throw in Busty, Dechaine, Wu, DeLuna). Take an average of balls made. Take 5 SL5 or below "bangers" from the APA. Everyone gets 50 tries. Are you seriously telling me that there is only 5% difference? Factors to consider: 1) they are getting a perfect rack every time? Because with the Magic Rack or tapped in balls, the pro will make a ball nearly every time after a few tries...the banger won't. 2) Isn't position after the break important? The consistency of the rack is *everything* in playing postion of both the cue ball and the low # object ball.
I have worked VERY hard on my break, and make more balls than many other guys that play at my speed. Last night playing bar table 8 ball, I closed out my match making 5 balls including the 8 ball. I just don't see other people around me doing that kind of stuff too often. They don't *practice* their break. I want to be rewarded for all that work.
Like I said, I would love to see your data. Your claim is at very least dubious.
KMRUNOUT
This is not a good post. I have my own personal rule that I only propose a bet when the sole purpose is to win money. Furthermore, I am not interested in proving someone wrong or proving myself right. My sole purpose is to get people to think outside this little box we are stuck in. The above post is not a good way of doing that. I will be happy to share my stats and what they mean. We have recorded the outcomes of upwards of 400,000 breaks (8,9,10 ball) from players of all abilities. The results are eye opening. For this reason, I am an advocate of deeming the ball-on-the-break meaningless. We are so busy right now with the holidays upon us that I am unable to provide data at this time. I will do so later.
In the mean time, I suggest to anyone who is interest, watch some pro 9 and 10 ball matches on YouTube with a critical eye. You will be surprised at how many dry breaks there are, how many balls are slopped in, and how infrequently the pros actually control the cue-ball.
I propose that we stop trying to fix the problem. Just get rid of the problem. The games will move along much quicker with a lot less grief and pool will make more sense to players and spectarors alike.
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