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Beautiful work on that table. Makes me think there could be hope for my old warhorses, yet. The break lines on the cloth suggests a lot of 9-ball has been played on that table and I'm curious if there is an indentation in the slate at the spot. If so, how do you deal with it? As always, thanks for the posts and pics.

Dave Smith
 
realkingcobra said:
The backer board serves three purposes, 1) providing somewhere to staple the cloth to in order to attach it, 2) it is part of the formula to set the playing surface to the factory set height, 3) it provides a way to attach the drop pockets if they're the style that needs to be attached.

In the case of this Diamond, I didn't run the backer boards out to the edge of the slate so it can have the cloth attached to it because I don't staple the cloth down, I glue it to the edge of the slate using my gluing system:D
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Did you use maple or poplar , Glen ?
 
perfectpocketz said:
Much better than the patch jobs...
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Mark, this is what I was telling you about on the phone today as to how I attached the leather drop pockets. The wood blocks are mounted by two screws going through the slate into the blocks, holding them in place so I can attach the pocket baskets. Makes it easy to take them off when needed to replace them with new blocks every once in a while instead of having to repair the whole slate backing just to fix where the pockets attach.

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Isn't this the method Gabriels uses?



realkingcobra said:
After removing all the MDF backing on the slates and scraped off all the glue used to hold it on, I built a new style of backer for the slates...and mounted it to the frame of the table instead of the slates.

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The backer board serves three purposes, 1) providing somewhere to staple the cloth to in order to attach it, 2) it is part of the formula to set the playing surface to the factory set height, 3) it provides a way to attach the drop pockets if they're the style that needs to be attached.

In the case of this Diamond, I didn't run the backer boards out to the edge of the slate so it can have the cloth attached to it because I don't staple the cloth down, I glue it to the edge of the slate using my gluing system:D
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shayne87 said:
Isn't this the method Gabriels uses?
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No, their backing if you want to call it that, is attached to the steel frame frame of the table, then the slates sit on top of that. You also have to shim level the slates on a Gabriels table between the slate and the backing on the frame as to keep the rail bolts from pulling the slate down on the leveling bolts when bolting the rails to the slate.

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
Once I finish this Diamond at the Corner Pocket, there won't be a better playing one pocket table in this state, you can BET on that. Corner pockets are going to be at 4 1/8" and sides at 4 3/4" once I'm finished.
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Not so fast Buddy. It will be the 2nd best in the State. You did mine last year same specs. It still plays great. But of course you made it that way.
Nice seeing you again Glenn. See you when you come back. Casey
 
Casey said:
Not so fast Buddy. It will be the 2nd best in the State. You did mine last year same specs. It still plays great. But of course you made it that way.
Nice seeing you again Glenn. See you when you come back. Casey
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You're right buddy, this is only the 4th table I've rebuilt in Louisiana so far, and your pool table was the first...see what kind of problems you've started now...:D
 
We talked about that a year ago.....that's smart to do it that way....the only problem with the backer board recessed under the slate....now who ever recovers the table the next time is going to need the knowledge of glueing the cloth down the right way....spray glue is not going to work the way 3-m scott weld does.
Great job.....but I really think you need to give some thought about the guy's that follow your work.....pockets are great for changing out the wood....but if a good mechanic don't follow.....he may have some trouble with the bed cloth.
All in all....it's top notch work.....but not everyone see's tables the way you and I do....just something to think about.
 
Cool way to measure Glen. The 15 half way down the pocket facing and the three at the point = 4 1/8"

That table looks bad a$$. The folks at that hall are lucky to have that put in to the role of a action table.:cool:
 
perfectpocketz said:
We talked about that a year ago.....that's smart to do it that way....the only problem with the backer board recessed under the slate....now who ever recovers the table the next time is going to need the knowledge of glueing the cloth down the right way....spray glue is not going to work the way 3-m scott weld does.
Great job.....but I really think you need to give some thought about the guy's that follow your work.....pockets are great for changing out the wood....but if a good mechanic don't follow.....he may have some trouble with the bed cloth.
All in all....it's top notch work.....but not everyone see's tables the way you and I do....just something to think about.
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Gluing or stapling the bed cloth on don't really matter if the local table mechanic's can't get either system done right does it, it's no different than most any where in this country. When the pool room a few blocks from the Corner Pocket had one of their 9fts recovered, the so called mechanic put the rail cloth on top of the rails and pounded in the feather strip to hold the cloth in the dado then pulled it around and stapled the cloth on the bottom of the rails....someone should have told him the feather strip goes UNDER the rail cloth, instead of on TOP! Yep, you can see every one of the feather strips....on the OUTSIDE of the rail cloth!!!!!
 
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