Rebuttal by Johann Chua re Waxgate

JAM

JAM

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When one is a celebrity in any field, social media can be a burden. I feel sad for Johann. I am a huge fan.

I don't know who's right and who's wrong in the Waxgate, but I hope Johann can learn to ignore naysayers, trolls, and social media bullies.

Joshua Filler was able to overcome the cyberbullying attacks when he was the flavor of the day for pool discussion, and I hope Johann can do so as well. It takes strength to do so, and it's not easy.

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The thing about champions, most need and have a strong self-confidence in their skills and capabilities. As such, they rise to the top because of it. Having thick skin and self-confidence, though, are two different animals.

Joshua Filler, when he was attacked viciously on social media, had thick skin along with his self-confidence. That debacle is now in pool's rearview mirror.

Johann Chua has a huge fan base in Philippines and around the world. I hope he can let this go and move on. Fickle pool people will make assumptions and debate the Waxgate ad nauseum.

Eklent Kaci is also being attacked on social media for bringing up the topic of wax, and quite frankly, I was surprised and elated to see Fedor Gorst address the topic so eloquently.

I hesitate to bring this up, but I seem to recall a well-known female pro using Pledge wax on her cue stick at a hot and humid pool room during a tournament. Nobody uttered a peep.

I'm sure Matchroom WNT is going to figure out a way to thwart waxing of balls as well as making sure all competitors know that the referee has to reply when a push or extension is asked for.
 
JAM said:
The thing about champions, most need and have a strong self-confidence in their skills and capabilities. As such, they rise to the top because of it. Having thick skin and self-confidence, though, are two different animals.

Joshua Filler, when he was attacked viciously on social media, had thick skin along with his self-confidence. That debacle is now in pool's rearview mirror.

Johann Chua has a huge fan base in Philippines and around the world. I hope he can let this go and move on. Fickle pool people will make assumptions and debate the Waxgate ad nauseum.

Eklent Kaci is also being attacked on social media for bringing up the topic of wax, and quite frankly, I was surprised and elated to see Fedor Gorst address the topic so eloquently.

I hesitate to bring this up, but I seem to recall a well-known female pro using Pledge wax on her cue stick at a hot and humid pool room during a tournament. Nobody uttered a peep.

I'm sure Matchroom WNT is going to figure out a way to thwart waxing of balls as well as making sure all competitors know that the referee has to reply when a push or extension is asked for.
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Idk about tournament play, but anytime in a match the other player pulls out a container of anything, you better damn well find out what it is.
Unless you have deep pockets.😉
 
JAM said:
The thing about champions, most need and have a strong self-confidence in their skills and capabilities. As such, they rise to the top because of it. Having thick skin and self-confidence, though, are two different animals.

Joshua Filler, when he was attacked viciously on social media, had thick skin along with his self-confidence. That debacle is now in pool's rearview mirror.

Johann Chua has a huge fan base in Philippines and around the world. I hope he can let this go and move on. Fickle pool people will make assumptions and debate the Waxgate ad nauseum.

Eklent Kaci is also being attacked on social media for bringing up the topic of wax, and quite frankly, I was surprised and elated to see Fedor Gorst address the topic so eloquently.

I hesitate to bring this up, but I seem to recall a well-known female pro using Pledge wax on her cue stick at a hot and humid pool room during a tournament. Nobody uttered a peep.

I'm sure Matchroom WNT is going to figure out a way to thwart waxing of balls as well as making sure all competitors know that the referee has to reply when a push or extension is asked for.
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The woman putting pledge furniture polish on her cue didn’t affect anyone but her unless she got some on the tip or rubbed it on the rails.
 
I don't know how someone is waxing the ball and goes unnoticed. I explained this a regular at the pool hall and he asked me how one would do it and I didn't have answer. Basically what my friend is saying is that its impossible. The first thing that came up out of his mouth was 'sore loser'.
 
JAM said:
When one is a celebrity in any field, social media can be a burden. I feel sad for Johann. I am a huge fan.

I don't know who's right and who's wrong in the Waxgate, but I hope Johann can learn to ignore naysayers, trolls, and social media bullies.

Joshua Filler was able to overcome the cyberbullying attacks when he was the flavor of the day for pool discussion, and I hope Johann can do so as well. It takes strength to do so, and it's not easy.

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If I had to bet a house on a single top-tier filipino player that DOESNT cheat i would pick Johann. Never heard a single bad word about the guy, followed him for years on FB, he seems like a perfect pool gentleman.
 
Badpenguin said:
Once silicone gets on a cue ball and starts moving around the table and hitting the cushions, does it not contaminate the cloth and rails from that point forward? How would you ever remove silicone from the cloth short of alcohol or some solvent?
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The residue from isolated instances would probably be negligible and/or unnoticed and would probably degrade into normal table friction anyway.
 
billiards_watch said:
I don't know how someone is waxing the ball and goes unnoticed. I explained this a regular at the pool hall and he asked me how one would do it and I didn't have answer. Basically what my friend is saying is that its impossible. The first thing that came up out of his mouth was 'sore loser'.
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I wish they would stop using the word "wax". Much more likely to be silicon lubricant.

Spray it on your glove before the match or even put it in your hair then run your hand through it before you take ball in hand. Rub the cue ball a little and it's done. Then the next time the ref cleans the cue ball with his cotton gloves it gets on his gloves, he reapplies it to the cue ball every time he touches it too.

If you want to find out the hard way how easily silicon travels and how hard it is to get rid of, walk into an automotive body shop with a can of silicon lube in your hand...lol. Just make sure you have your medical insurance paid up.
 
It was back in 79 or 80 when playing regularly with Wade Crane. He would spray Pledge onto a small towel and wipe the shaft down
to make it ultra slick and then I used it to. About 2003 I had take my wife and son to Myrtle Beach for vacation . I had just bought
a new car and while out running errands I stopped by an auto parts store. They had a new product Teflon wipes by DuPont.
Got out to the car and put some on the dash and it looked real good so I put some on the steering wheel , my bad , I could hardly hang
on to it afterwards it was so slick. Had to work for awhile to get the stuff off. Got home after the vacation and thought , how would this stuff work
on the cue ball? Went to the table down stairs and set up with a test. I set the cue ball around the side pocket with an object ball
straight in around the middle diamond on the rail. Applied enough bottom to shoot the ball into the bottom corner and bring the ball
back to the side pocket from where it started, Did this 4 or 5 times to make sure of my speed and distance to make it happen every time. The I used the Teflon wipe on the cue ball a few minuets for all to dry. I set up the shot the same as above but the reaction was much different. Instead of the cue ball coming back to the side pocket, it continued with the draw shot all the way down to the bottom rail and back up two diamonds from the bottom rail . With top English going into a 14-1 break shot , the cue ball would plow through the rack like a bulldozer. The Teflon stuff
did some crazy stuff but it was tough to use and play with any control. They (DuPont) have the product off on the market, but it was some slick
stuff . I never used it on opponents or in heavy match play, but we did have some fun with cheap action with friends and watch their reactions. How the hell did I just draw that cue ball better than I ever did in all my life of playing , is one I'll never forget and we never told him how he did it.
The old gent was proud of that shot he made ,for years and years, just couldn't let on.
There has been products that would juice the cue ball for years and it's not new, it's only been brought up because it does exist. It's something
if used in tournament play, the ones doing it should be out right band from competition. What it also brings forth is the accusations on players
that might not have a way from defending themselves from, while being not guilty.
 
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JAM said:
Or ball in hand after stroking the shaft.
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Players waxing a shaft was common. It is not the same thing as putting silicon on a cue ball. At all. I am not commenting on what may or may not have happened in the recent tournament. I am saying don’t equate buffing a shaft with doctoring a cue ball. They just aren’t the same. One guy hit his shaft with some lighter fluid and got it pretty glassy after buffing. Yes, we could still smoke and not catch the cue ball on fire.
 
Badpenguin said:
Once silicone gets on a cue ball and starts moving around the table and hitting the cushions, does it not contaminate the cloth and rails from that point forward? How would you ever remove silicone from the cloth short of alcohol or some solvent?
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Yes, the silicone seems to migrate a lot. I feel that paste wax does that less, but it must go somewhere as it wears off the cue ball. I think the final result is that the slippery stuff gets spread evenly over the table, and shots just play very slightly differently. At that point it will be much less effect than clean/dirty balls or old/new cloth.
 
trob said:
While I think he is innocent I also don’t think he’s suing anyone lol
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Yeah, he really has nothing. If he actually had a "legal team" they would have told him that to sue for defamation they would need to prove the comments were made with malice, which I doubt there is any evidence of.

Edit: at least in a US court that would be the case, possibly that is different in other countries.
 
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