Rempe's Snooker Efforts

Russ Chewning said:
Make sure you identify yourself to me if we ever meet in person at a tournament, so I can tell you what a f***ing jerk you are.

Personally, I don't find it funny at all that people post any portion of Accu-Stats videos on YouTube. Unless he authorized it, and I severely doubt he did, it doesn't f***ing matter what other people think will help his business, they have no right to post these videos, or ANY PORTION of them.

***holes like you think it's funny when people are outright stealing from one of the industries' biggest supporters.

And if you do happen to introduce yourself, I'll call you an ***hole to your face, and then I'll go get Pat and see what he has to say to you.

If you are against Accu-Stats piracy as well, then I apologize, but this is not a topic to joke with me about. I see it as outright thievery. If you want to watch an awesome rack of pool, then either buy the Accu-Stats video, or travel to the tournament to watch it in person. That's it. Unless someone who owns the videos is giving it away for free, there are no other choices.

I see a bunch of thieves on the forum posting links to YouTube videos of Accu-Stats recorded racks.

It's just stealing. You'll never convince me of anything else.

Russ
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You gotta back off on this alittle bit, I've watched 20 minutes total of "stolen" accustats video on youtube and it made me buy 80 dollars of merchandise from them, they lost absolutly nothing by having me watch it on YT but they gained alot of business from it.
 
I will say it again. I WILL NOT back off! Even IF it is TRUE that putting these clips on YouTube is GOOD for Pat's business, THAT DOES NOT MATTER! He is perfectly free to run his business any way he sees fit!

It is not YOUR place to decide what benefits his business! Like I said, if you TRULY believe that YouTube is doing a world of good, CALL Pat and see if he minds you watching parts of matches on there.

And please report back to us what he says. If you fail to do so, I will just asume you KNOW watching his clips on YouTube is WRONG, but you just don't CARE!

On a side note, what happens if you watch parts of a match and you don't like it? But you would have bought a DVD to try out Accu-Stats? Then Pat just lost money. Like I said, it is not YOUR place to decide what is good for his business. YOU'RE not the one who spends thousands per year for cameramen, equipment, and travel expenses!

Russ
 
Cameron Smith said:
In all fairness, snooker players are making a transition to 9 ball, which is a game where anybody can beat anyone on any given day. On the other hand you won't see a number 100 ranked player beat Ronnie very often in snooker.

I am fairly certain that if the main game on tour was 14.1 or one pocket, snooker players would probably have similar results to Rempe and Mizerak, unless they spent a lot of time studying the games. I definitely wouldn't bet on Stephen Hendry to beat John Schmidt in a 150 point game of 14.1.
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Yep, I made the mistake of thinking pool = 9-ball. I don't think snooker players would make good 14.1 players without some straight pool knowledge and experience. 9-ball is much easier to learn because the tactics aren't usually involved. Actually, you can learn 9-ball by just learning a dozen of the most common safeties and bank shots and shots-to-nothing as they are called in snooker.

Though, I have a friend at my club who is a top snooker player and has played some 9-ball for fun and won a few tournaments with his pocketing skills. He has played 14.1 about 5 times and has made approx. 5 runs between 50-70 and I think that's not bad at all. But with a race to 150 against a top 14.1 player I don't think he'd have much change.
 
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what's interesting to me is that even though snooker players have done marginally better crossing over, not one has managed to capture a major

Remember O'Sullivan tried his hand at the IPT recently, Steve Davis participates in the worlds every year and Mark Williams has tried some nineball also

between the three of them they have around one dozen world titles

I've personally felt that at the beginner to intermediate stages snooker is the tougher discipline while at the top levels difficulty is the same

I place carom slightly below the two of them

Stephen Hendry would be fun to watch because he is a student of the game and a workhorse who spends countless hours practicing, while the other snooker guys seem to shoot nine ball for kicks and without much practice, I could see Hendry really giving it a serious run
 
smashmouth said:
what's interesting to me is that even though snooker players have done marginally better crossing over, not one has managed to capture a major

Remember O'Sullivan tried his hand at the IPT recently, Steve Davis participates in the worlds every year and Mark Williams has tried some nineball also

between the three of them they have around one dozen world titles

I've personally felt that at the beginner to intermediate stages snooker is the tougher discipline while at the top levels difficulty is the same

I place carom slightly below the two of them

Stephen Hendry would be fun to watch because he is a student of the game and a workhorse who spends countless hours practicing, while the other snooker guys seem to shoot nine ball for kicks and without much practice, I could see Hendry really giving it a serious run
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That's funny... I seem to remember a snooker player named John Horsfall who's won a few major tournaments.. Or did you realize he was a snooker player?

Russ
 
jay helfert said:
You are correct. Steve won the two "Pool" disciplines.
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man my memorie sacres me, how i pulled that out i'll never know, i swear to god i wish i didnt have such a good memorie, life would be happier, i mean that too, being to much of anything isnt good.
 
Its just different games.....I dont think you will ever see anyone win a major in both games....it does seem that the snooker guys have an eaiser go at swapping than the pool players do, but they havent really won anything... have they?

Didnt Davis and osullivan play some 9 ball recently... didnt do so well IIRC.

I gotta say though, If anybody could do it , I think that ronny would have the best chance ... that guy is a machine .. left handed right handed ... whatever... he can do it them all...he just cant stay focused... and if he cant keep his head in that game I doubt that he could bare down and devote the time needed to "learn" 9/8 ball tactics.
 
Mizerak won the match in snooker and 14.1, Davis won the 9-ball i have the tape.
Miz shoot with is pool cue with closed bridge from 10 feet and he pot the ball several times, :eek: i think is high run was 40 or something.
However in the snooker match i think Davis let Mizerak win.
 
When i have the time to convert the tape to a computer file i'll post it on the billiard torrent site :)
 
dew said:
Mizerak won the match in snooker and 14.1, Davis won the 9-ball i have the tape.
Miz shoot with is pool cue with closed bridge from 10 feet and he pot the ball several times, :eek: i think is high run was 40 or something.
However in the snooker match i think Davis let Mizerak win.
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Thanks for the correction. Steve Davis has always impressed me with his 9-Ball game. I actually think he is better than John Horsfall ever was. He just doesn't choose to pursue it as much. Davis actually had a good run at the WPC last year, and he would dearly love to add this title to his credits.

That would be the capper to an illustrious career. And a super nice guy and VERY intelligent to boot. He finished in the money (something like 530th) at the World Series Of Poker main event this past year. No mean feat with over 8,000 entries.
 
Steve has the best sense of humour also, that classic dry british wit

Many top snooker players have struggled greatly with personal demons after achieving success

Steve is tackling nine ball and poker and having a blast, what a champ
 
and yes, both Rempe and Mizerak deserve tremendous credit for attempting what most pool pros only ever talk about
 
smokeandapancak said:
Its just different games.....I dont think you will ever see anyone win a major in both games....it does seem that the snooker guys have an eaiser go at swapping than the pool players do, but they havent really won anything... have they?

Didnt Davis and osullivan play some 9 ball recently... didnt do so well IIRC.

I gotta say though, If anybody could do it , I think that ronny would have the best chance ... that guy is a machine .. left handed right handed ... whatever... he can do it them all...he just cant stay focused... and if he cant keep his head in that game I doubt that he could bare down and devote the time needed to "learn" 9/8 ball tactics.
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Tony Drago won the World Pool Masters in 2003. He beat Alex Pagualyan, Nick Van Dan Berg, Earl Strickland and Hui Kai Sha (who white washed Thorsten Hohmann in an early round 8-0.)

That's pretty good.
 
Russ Chewning said:
I will say it again. I WILL NOT back off! Even IF it is TRUE that putting these clips on YouTube is GOOD for Pat's business, THAT DOES NOT MATTER! He is perfectly free to run his business any way he sees fit!

It is not YOUR place to decide what benefits his business! Like I said, if you TRULY believe that YouTube is doing a world of good, CALL Pat and see if he minds you watching parts of matches on there.

And please report back to us what he says. If you fail to do so, I will just asume you KNOW watching his clips on YouTube is WRONG, but you just don't CARE!

On a side note, what happens if you watch parts of a match and you don't like it? But you would have bought a DVD to try out Accu-Stats? Then Pat just lost money. Like I said, it is not YOUR place to decide what is good for his business. YOU'RE not the one who spends thousands per year for cameramen, equipment, and travel expenses!

Russ
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Yeah I'll pass on the whole calling him up thing. Your main argument is that it costs him money, I've already said that's a complete joke because I never would have bought dvd's in the first place if I hadn't seen stuff from them I liked on youtube. I filmed proffessionaly for a skateboard company in Texas and am going into film making as my career and have a pretty solid idea of when pirating has gone too far, and when it is working to the companies advantage, in this case it clearly works for accustats; simple as that.
 
Yes the american players are selling themselves short. What they need to remember is that snooker is not a "run out" type of game you need to approach it with the same mentality as one pocket. It's not all about runnin balls you gotta outsmart those guys. You actually get points if you play a great safe and the opponent commits a foul.
 
Boro Nut said:
That's true. Women obviously don't count (I think you have to be a former snooker player to qualify), and Marlon Manalo wasn't anywhere near the highest level of snooker. Snooker player Mark Selby destroying Darren Appleton in the final of the English 8 ball version world championships doesn't count either because it's just a joke pub game, as their pathetic showing at the IPT proved.

Boro Nut
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You are referring to the pathetic showing of English 8 ball players on the IPT???

I guess you mean Appleton who is 13th on the money list and had a 7th place finish. Or maybe Karl Boyes who had an 8th place finish. Or maybe Mick Hill who had a 9th place finish and 105 break and runs total. Yeah, they were really pathetic (I bet you wish you were 1/2 as good as them.)

You should do a little homework before making a dumb post.
 
wayne said:
You are referring to the pathetic showing of English 8 ball players on the IPT???

I guess you mean Appleton who is 13th on the money list and had a 7th place finish. Or maybe Karl Boyes who had an 8th place finish. Or maybe Mick Hill who had a 9th place finish and 105 break and runs total. Yeah, they were really pathetic (I bet you wish you were 1/2 as good as them.)

You should do a little homework before making a dumb post.
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I agree with you here Wayne. The showing of the Brits was particularly impressive. Appleton, Boyes and Hill showed they could hang with the best players in the world. And they did.
 
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