Is this half-way to scotch doubles?
Ring games or group games
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Around here, sometimes the cue ball goes back and the player has to shoot again. Is that rule in your version?
We played the same game only we called it Razzle, we used to have a blast playing that game. Usually 2 bucks a scratch and 2 a ball...Sometimes we played 5 and 5 those games got heated. I got airbarreld on night for $250 bucks then they guy wrote me a check that later bounced good times:grin:
I have been turning my basement into a pool room its almost finished when its all done its time for a Razzle game to christen it.
I asked this exact question before but didn't get a response. I'd still like to know. We used to play this years ago on a 5x10 at HOB in Sherman Oaks, CA. I just can't remember all the rules but essentially the way the game works is everyone draws pills out of the bottle to determine order. You still play red/number/red/number etc. but I don't think we used all the reds. You play for a given amount per point, say $1/point. You get paid by whoever sells out to you (the guy who shoots before you) and you pay whoever you sell out to (the guy that shoots after you). So at $1/point, if you miss and the next guy makes a red and the seven then a red and the six, that totals 15 points and you owe the guy $15.
It's a fun game.
16 Peas in a shake bottle. 2 peas given to each player. 1 pea is kept secret, the other determines your rotational order. Great money game.
More Kelly Pool info here... http://sites.google.com/site/poolandbilliard/Home/pea-pool ... or you can find the game in the BCA Official Rule Book.
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Hello Mr. Wiggles, A few times a year I have kelly games at my house(usaully on holidays when lots of family are together). Here's how we play...Draw for shooting order
Draw for your ball(keep secrete)
Shoot balls in rotation(we usaully vote on call shot or slop before)
shoot till you miss, if you make your ball you win,if you make someone else's ball they pay you half the ante. If your playing $1 ante and you make someone else's ball they pay you .50 cents. You must annouce when another player makes your ball. You still take your turn if your ball is made by another player bc you can still pocket someone else's ball, you just can't win the pot. Like all pool games there are many ways to play. This is how we play. Hope this was helpfull.
The biggest problem with ring games is "gentleman rules" where you have to make an attempt to pocket the ball. When it comes to gambling a lot of guys are not inclined to be gentlemen.
I've followed guys who never pocketed a ball unless there was a good chance they could run out.
I've followed guys who never pocketed a ball unless there was a good chance they could run out.
Batting orders should always be changed after each game if there are unknown players following each other.
Chances are that you may never get a decent shot or that some other player may always seem to be set up.
There are ways around that. Giving the incoming player 1) the option of passing it back is one, 2) BIH or BIH in the kitchen on any miss is another.
I agree with this except obviously new positions should be drawn only after however many games it takes to go through the batting order at least one time. Otherwise if you keep drawing near the bottom of the order you might never get to the table.
When non players (husband/wives ect.) come over I like to suggest partner type games.
Any casual game that allows better players to partner up with the non players.
This could be a game of partner 8 ball, as it may be the only game some people know.
When better players come over we play money games, 9 ball, Red ball, Pea pool, ect.
I looked around on-line for the rules to liability, but couldn't find any. Mostly I have two questions: If you snooker someone and they don't hit the ball, are you the one who gets paid? On a safe, do you have to get to a cushion after the hit? Is before the hit OK, too? (I ask the last question because at golf on the snooker table, you have to touch a rail, but before the hit is OK.)
Related to which, does anyone know of a complete list of the rules for golf on the snooker table?
Related to which, does anyone know of a complete list of the rules for golf on the snooker table?
Ring Nine Ball
5 and 9 - whoever makes the 5 gets paid and whoever makes the nine gets paid. The only balls that spot on a foul are the balls BEFORE the money balls.
Scratches are shot out of the kitchen and the lowest ball on the table spots IF it's in the kitchen.
Safeties are not allowed - player must make an honest attempt to hit and make the ball. If the shooter has a clear shot at the lowest ball and hooks the incoming player then the incoming player may direct the previous player to shoot again. If the shooter is hooked and then subsequently hooks the incoming player the incoming player must take the shot as he finds it.
In some rules any combo on the money balls pays the shooter and the money ball is respotted on the table until such time as it is made directly.
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9 Ball Ring Game - only the nine wins. No ball in hand, same rules apply as above concerning honest attempt and being hooked. All balls spot.
Some people play it with regular TE express rules including ball in hand.
Generally safeties are frowned on.
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Poker Pool - awesome ring game - five cards dealt you have shoot your hand. Most places play that the shooter gets one shot per turn only. The 1 is the ace - 2 through 10 are the corresponding numbers - 11,12,13 are jack, queen and king, and the 14 and 15 are free balls. The only time a shooter may shoot twice is by making a free ball first. Scratches and other fouls are penalized by having to draw another card.
Payoffs are for the game and cards left in the hands of non-winning players. ex. $10 a game and $2 a card.
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Kelly Pool - played with numbered "peas". - each player draws one number. Play is in rotation with 15 balls. You win by shooting your number in OR shooting everyone else's number in before they do. Shoot your number in and get paid by everyone, shoot another player's number in and get paid by that player.
In some versions of Kelly Pool when your number is shot in by another player you are out of the game. In other verisons you can continue to play and shoot other people's numbers in but you can win the whole game.
Shoot til you miss.
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Mexican Rotation -
Played with the 3-15 balls lined up on the diamonds. 3 ball is worth 6 points and all other balls are worth face value. Played like regular rotation with each player getting the points for the balls they made. Play continues until all the balls are gone and the player with the most points wins. Played up to four handed.
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Golf - on the snooker table.
Each player has ONE ball. Object is to make that ball in each of the six holes. Player is responsible for "holding" their man or not allowing the person behind them to make a shot in their hole. Very skilled game up to seven handed.
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Carom/Pin billiards games - Italy.
Play is on a carom or pool table with small wooden pins set up in the center of the table and sometimes at other locations. Points are awarded for either knocking over or avoiding the pins depending on the game. Played up to four handed with many variations.
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Two card pool - similar to Kelly Pool above played in China. Each player gets two cards and has to make his balls to win.
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Three Stage Carom on a pool table - popular in Taiwan and China.
Carom game played with four balls. One ball, three ball and eleven ball, or one yellow and two reds.
Player shoots until they miss.
First shot MUST be a carom between the yellow and a red. Second shot must be a carom between the two reds. Third shot must be a carom on all three balls.
When a player completes this sequence then he is paid by all the other players.
Fouls cost a token amount to be paid into the table time kitty.
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Killer -
In this game the incoming player has ONE shot to make a ball or they lose a "life". All players start out with three lives or three misses. The object is to make a shot and not leave a shot for the incoming player, i.e. force them to miss. Only one shot per turn.
The winner is the last person standing with lives left. All other players pay out according to the amount of lives the winner has left. Also a great game which forces some fantastic shots.
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Those are all the ring games I can remember playing around the world.
I like that idea. The problem is if you have some guys who are playing as a "team" they aren't going to agree to those options.
Redrawing is standard practice but doesn't always solve the problem.
Ring games are a lot of fun IF it is an honest game.
This can definitely be a problem if two stronger players "brother up", but I have occasionally given this up as a spot to weaker players when I couldn't get a normal ring game going. They normally don't work together quite as well as they anticipate, and they often miss shots without leaving their partner anything great, which makes it a fairly easy spot to outrun.
Aaron
"Pill pool"
we draw "pills" from the bottle (i.e. Numbers 1-15) and play full-rack rotation. If you make your own ball, everyone pays you $1. If someone else sinks your ball, you pay him $1. Payment is made immediately after the ball is made.
The game is best with 5-7 players. For example, with 5 players each could draw 2 "peas" for 10 balls in action...or better yet, each draw 3 so that all balls are money balls. If you have the 1,2 and 3 balls and break and run, you win $24 at only $1/ball.
Winner breaks, must make an honest attempt to hit the lowest ball. After a foul, next player has option of shooting or making the fouler shoot (no ball-in-hand, CB scratches play from the kitchen). Slop counts (and is encouraged).
The game is best played with beer and smart-assed remarks and plenty of good-natured sharking. As with 3-ball, the player who gets too ahead is expected to buy a round to ease the pain of those losing money.
we draw "pills" from the bottle (i.e. Numbers 1-15) and play full-rack rotation. If you make your own ball, everyone pays you $1. If someone else sinks your ball, you pay him $1. Payment is made immediately after the ball is made.
The game is best with 5-7 players. For example, with 5 players each could draw 2 "peas" for 10 balls in action...or better yet, each draw 3 so that all balls are money balls. If you have the 1,2 and 3 balls and break and run, you win $24 at only $1/ball.
Winner breaks, must make an honest attempt to hit the lowest ball. After a foul, next player has option of shooting or making the fouler shoot (no ball-in-hand, CB scratches play from the kitchen). Slop counts (and is encouraged).
The game is best played with beer and smart-assed remarks and plenty of good-natured sharking. As with 3-ball, the player who gets too ahead is expected to buy a round to ease the pain of those losing money.
My favorite game growing up was called check and double check and was usually 4 or 5 players, each drew 3 pills and broke on the highest unless you had 16. 16 was a free pill since there was no ball corresponding so if you had the 8 pill and made it you showed the 16 and 8 pills and got paid. The only balls you could shoot at after the break were the 1 the 8 and 15 so if you had the 6 and 10 pills for instance you had to start with say the 8 and go up or down hoping that you didn't put someone else out. It was great fun at a buck from everyone to the winner and this was 36 years ago so a buck was like ten bucks now. Man I miss J C Brantleys pool room (The 74 Drive In ) and JC himself.--Leonard
I forgot about Amos and Andy a board game like Keno just a southern version
I forgot about Amos and Andy a board game like Keno just a southern version
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I think this thread on games for three or more is worth revisiting.
Was King of the Hill Scotch Doubles mentioned? (4) players. Each round consists with (3) sets where everyone plays once with everyone in each round. Play as many rounds as you want. If there's one stronger player that everyone else or two week and two strong players you can agree to handicaps, etc. We used to play race to five $20 a man for hours and hours.
Did you ever write an article?