Rip-off is official..beware Yuri_b17 and Tim_hong
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Thanks to everyone
I must say that I am overwhelmed by all of the support that you guys are putting forth. I want to personally thank each of you who has posted on here, those who have e-mailed me, and those who have given me a phone call. Only by putting forth our collective strength and support can we run down and hopefully stop scam artists like this one.
I don't figure that I will receive my money or cue back, but I do think that we can help stop this from happening to someone else.
Pool players are a tight-knit bunch. We may be a little loose in the head sometimes, but we do stick together when it counts. Thank you very, very much for your support.
A special thank you to Kamdaswani in Hong Kong for his help. Hopefully, the technical crimes unit will put a hurt on this a--hole before anyone else is taken by him.
Joe
I must say that I am overwhelmed by all of the support that you guys are putting forth. I want to personally thank each of you who has posted on here, those who have e-mailed me, and those who have given me a phone call. Only by putting forth our collective strength and support can we run down and hopefully stop scam artists like this one.
I don't figure that I will receive my money or cue back, but I do think that we can help stop this from happening to someone else.
Pool players are a tight-knit bunch. We may be a little loose in the head sometimes, but we do stick together when it counts. Thank you very, very much for your support.
A special thank you to Kamdaswani in Hong Kong for his help. Hopefully, the technical crimes unit will put a hurt on this a--hole before anyone else is taken by him.
Joe
Got taken in a Ebay Paypal transaction for $1,320
Sent a Paypal superviser the UPS investigator name & phone#
The buyer signed for the delivery, gave Paypal the drivers name and provided them with the signature delivery
The buyer kept the item they bought and received their $1,320 back
Talked with a Paypal supervisor 3 times to no avail
Closed my Paypal account......
Paypal sides with the buyer every time
They recomended I contact the local police.
Sent a Paypal superviser the UPS investigator name & phone#
The buyer signed for the delivery, gave Paypal the drivers name and provided them with the signature delivery
The buyer kept the item they bought and received their $1,320 back
Talked with a Paypal supervisor 3 times to no avail
Closed my Paypal account......
Paypal sides with the buyer every time
They recomended I contact the local police.
I also shipped a Justis West case to Yuri (Yuri_b17) a few days ago.
So I am expecting a resersal on my Paypal anytime now. The only reason why I decided to ship the case to him was because he had seemed to establish a good track records on AZ, and other AZer's have left positive feedbacks for him. Otherwise, there is not a chance that I would accept Paypal on an international transaction.
I received a call last night from Yuri, who claimed that he is the real Yuri. But since Joe already posted the info on page 2, I won't post much more details. Basically, supposedly Yuri had a friend (Tim-Hong) who did all this frauds.
I am still trying to sort out things. From the conversation with "Yuri", the emails I received from him, and other people coming forward here, there are some questions. As I start to put things together, I will post here.
My Paypal payments came from:
yurib76@yahoo.com (Name associated with this account is: B Yuri)
and
choi_lindah@yahoo.com (Linda Choi, supposedly his wife)
So I am expecting a resersal on my Paypal anytime now. The only reason why I decided to ship the case to him was because he had seemed to establish a good track records on AZ, and other AZer's have left positive feedbacks for him. Otherwise, there is not a chance that I would accept Paypal on an international transaction.
I received a call last night from Yuri, who claimed that he is the real Yuri. But since Joe already posted the info on page 2, I won't post much more details. Basically, supposedly Yuri had a friend (Tim-Hong) who did all this frauds.
I am still trying to sort out things. From the conversation with "Yuri", the emails I received from him, and other people coming forward here, there are some questions. As I start to put things together, I will post here.
My Paypal payments came from:
yurib76@yahoo.com (Name associated with this account is: B Yuri)
and
choi_lindah@yahoo.com (Linda Choi, supposedly his wife)
Paypal is involved in a class action suit right now, but I have not taken the time to see what it is all about. It seems tome that there are enough people with your exact story to get a REAL class action lawsuit going. I do not undersatnd why this has not happened.Panhdlce said:
Check this out. this is the newly announced settlement from a 2005 case.
http://www.steelesettlement.com.
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Michael-Hoang said:
Dont fall for his Phonecall lies Michael. He already posted Joe's Meucci up on another website.
http://forum.bilyar.net/viewtopic.php?t=2844
At this point he'll probably do everything he can to make people think he's innocent.
Overwhelmed
I know how you feel.
The outpouring of support you get under these circumstances is a little overwhelming, especially when your feeling victimized.
I was so overwhelmed by it, that I became a club member, as a simple token of my appreciation.
I hate to stop taking or making pay-pal payments because it is such an easy way to do business, but a friend of mine did get $3,000.00 lifted from his accounts by pay-pal for a Franklin Southwest, that he sold on Ebay, and was paid for with a stolen credit card.
I thought it was just the conflict of interest with pay-pal and Ebay being under the same umbrella, but it looks like Ebay has little to do with it.
Pay-pal is only out to protect themselves, and not their customer base.
Just like the rest of corporate America.
Bamacues said:
I know how you feel.
The outpouring of support you get under these circumstances is a little overwhelming, especially when your feeling victimized.
I was so overwhelmed by it, that I became a club member, as a simple token of my appreciation.
I hate to stop taking or making pay-pal payments because it is such an easy way to do business, but a friend of mine did get $3,000.00 lifted from his accounts by pay-pal for a Franklin Southwest, that he sold on Ebay, and was paid for with a stolen credit card.
I thought it was just the conflict of interest with pay-pal and Ebay being under the same umbrella, but it looks like Ebay has little to do with it.
Pay-pal is only out to protect themselves, and not their customer base.
Just like the rest of corporate America.
Very Good Point!!!!!! I Dont Think He Ahd Any Clue That Most Of The Az Guys Watch So Many Sites!!!! Think He Is Tryin To Backpedal , But Didnt Realize He Would Get Caught Tryin To Move The Cues Elsewhere! Thats Why This Site Is Sooooooo Great!!!!!
Alot Of Heavy Hitters Here That Watch Alot Of Places !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Bama For Your Loss, I Got Taken For A 1k Cue A Few Ywaers Ago And And I Learned To Watch Forthis Stuff, But They Are Getin Better!!!!!
Alot Of Heavy Hitters Here That Watch Alot Of Places !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Bama For Your Loss, I Got Taken For A 1k Cue A Few Ywaers Ago And And I Learned To Watch Forthis Stuff, But They Are Getin Better!!!!!
I have always had paypal setup with my accounts and use the account STRICTLY FOR THAT my back up funding credit card is a debit card from that same account for the reason that if someone hacks it !!! AND THEY ARE GETTIN GOOD AT IT! it is a vicious circle of NOTHING! NO MONEY!! i always pull my money out asap!!!!!
never did that till i was referred here years ago!!!! alot of high end esellers gettin burned! was referred here from a fellow ebay powerseller!!! VERY SCARY!!!
heres the link! http://www.paypalsucks.com/
never did that till i was referred here years ago!!!! alot of high end esellers gettin burned! was referred here from a fellow ebay powerseller!!! VERY SCARY!!!
heres the link! http://www.paypalsucks.com/
Yuri is responsibel
This Yuri guy is still responsible even if some (friend) of his used his account and computer access. You just don't do that unless you are Jay Helfert using Fatboy's computer or vice versa! The computer owner is responsible for protecting protecting his computer and account information - and he is responsible for choosing who to associate with.
Michael-Hoang said:
This Yuri guy is still responsible even if some (friend) of his used his account and computer access. You just don't do that unless you are Jay Helfert using Fatboy's computer or vice versa! The computer owner is responsible for protecting protecting his computer and account information - and he is responsible for choosing who to associate with.
joeboxer said:
I AM going to sort this thing out. :smile: At the very least, I am going to find out who steals from me.
I have been to Hong Kong several times. It is not a big place actually. I wouldn't mind making another trip there to see some old friends. :grin-square:
like i did years ago just read this linkhttp://www.paypalsucks.com/ a bit and PLEASE BEWARE!!!!
ITS A OK DEAL BUT MANY GET BURNED BY THE PAYPAL RULES!!!
BEEN WITH EM SINCE 2000 AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS, NOT MANY OTHER ONLINE OPTIONS TO MAKE IT EASIER!
ITS A OK DEAL BUT MANY GET BURNED BY THE PAYPAL RULES!!!
BEEN WITH EM SINCE 2000 AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS, NOT MANY OTHER ONLINE OPTIONS TO MAKE IT EASIER!
Bamacues said:
i am not doing much.. it is royston and jhun who are in the front line of this investigation in hong kong .. i am just trying to help as a liaison
so all credit goes to those two stand up guys ...
i also contacted the owner of the most popular place here.. he stands ready to go over to the address of the perpetrator once it is confirmed ..
we're all trying to help fix this and reinstate the integrity of the market here...
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kamdaswani said:
kamdaswani,
Do you know of Jonathan Yip?
Jonathan took me to Joe's Billiards one time. While we were there, it seemed like EVERY BODY came up to our table and shake hands with him, including Joe (the owner). I have to look through my contact info to find him.
If you see him, please tell him that I am looking for him.
no i don't know him but there are just so many people who only play at certain times .. perhaps he is an evening session guyMichael-Hoang said:
i more of a 4 - 6 pm player
Greg, I Didn't/couldn't Read Anything You Wrote.......
Who The Hell Is This?????
Who The Hell Is This?????
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So far, here are a few AZers who have been taken:
patrickjuhlin (Jacoby D-1 cue....fill in the value here)
Bamacues (Meucci cue....fill in the value here)
99% sure taken:
Michael-Hoang (that's me. Justis West case $420)
Edit: Potential victim:
BryanMordt
patrickjuhlin (Jacoby D-1 cue....fill in the value here)
Bamacues (Meucci cue....fill in the value here)
99% sure taken:
Michael-Hoang (that's me. Justis West case $420)
Edit: Potential victim:
BryanMordt
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I Was Called The Other Day By An Azer, And Asked If They Should Take Seperate Paypal Payments..... I Told Them, Hell No Don't Get Scammed.
I Can't Remember Who It Was Though. I Get Alot Of Calls
I Can't Remember Who It Was Though. I Get Alot Of Calls
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joeboxer said:
I SAW, THAT'S WHY I EDITED RIGHT AWAY, YOU WERE JUST TOO QUICK.