Ripped off by Realkingcobra anyone?

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Not my business either, but I dont think its fair to try to publicly tarnish a mans reputation over one bad transaction. I know Glen has bent over backwards trying to help me with a table problem of mine. He did that for free via phone calls, PM's and posts.....for almost a year so far. And he helped me out without knowing me from a hole in the wall. Was I the first? Very doubtful. This is a guy who has been helping people for years, he doesnt strike me as someone in the business of ripping people off. I will chalk this up to some unusual cirsumstances involving a late payment, and nothing more.
 
I have had many financial transactions in our industry. One of the things that I always keep in mind is that this is still a "one man" show industry. That is what makes it kinda special. There still are craftsman, and artisans doing the work. Hell, I sent money over seas for a snooker cue that was 9 months late, and struggled getting a hold of the maker for months. When it was delivered it blew away all expectations.

I have never worked with RKC, but I have seen his posts, and the next time my tables need work he will get the call..................and I will wait until he comes to town. Because I want to work with the guy that will go the extra mile, and who has passion for his work. That is what is lacking in most of country today....passion, craftsman, a hand shake deal.

Bottom line...................if you want customer service you call corporate America and a BIG manufacturer. If you want to deal one on one with the actual guy doing the work........... there are some sacrifices we need to make.

As a buyer, only mail out as much money as you can afford to lose. Cause ya never know!!

Mike
 
all the girls liked the guys in the drum line the best (1956-1967 rifle bearer in NJ) :)

Prolly cause we were really wild...well, I know I was about as wild as they came...and it could be that we were the most handsome also :grin:
 
Prolly cause we were really wild...well, I know I was about as wild as they came...and it could be that we were the most handsome also :grin:

drummers have the best rhythm - seemed like the french horn players were the next most popular :grin:
 
drummers have the best rhythm - seemed like the french horn players were the next most popular :grin:

Rhythm....yes, so thats how we say it now.....hmm, good to know......... Boom Chacka Lacka:grin-square:

Ok, Meezer Girl....I HAVE to see a picture of you......for study of course
 
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Ripped off by Realkingcobra anyone?

With all these posts, I haven't seen anyone answer, "Yep."

That's friggin amazing, right there...

Actually the person who started this thread has felt that way and while he may have been looking for corroboration it seems as if the question was more rhetorical in nature. Of course under civil law it's a contract dispute since the parties had agreed on some terms and a certain performance under those terms.

In practical terms however the table mechanic has deprived the customer of the use of his money for far longer than was expected and thus has effectively stolen that money and the attendant opportunities for that length of time.

To play a simple hypothetical;

Let us imagine that the person who has collected $3000 and is supposed to pay it to the person owed comes across a cue for $3000 and decides to use the money to purchase the cue. He then sells the cue a month later for $5000.

Unbeknownst to the mechanic the same cue was offered to the person who was owed the $3000 and he asked the seller to wait one week as he was expecting the money to be paid which he was owed. A week comes and goes and the money is not paid and the cue is sold to someone else.

In this simple exercise it is clear that the collector of the money has deprived the rightful owner of the opportunity to profit through the use of those funds.

Let us assume that the collector did not need the $3000 to purchase the cue. In other words he could have paid the $3000 and purchased the cue as well.

In this situation he has stolen the opportunity for the rightful owner of the money to have the same opportunity to purchase the cue and resell it at a profit.

If you went to the bank and deposited a check for $3000 and a week later the bank collected the money, the check was good, but they then did not credit it to your account, how would you take that? If they held your money for six months and despite your attempts to retrieve it they would not release it to you would you feel somehow cheated?

Ripped off?

The moral of the story is if you owe somebody something then try hard to pay it back in the fastest and quietest manner possible. Especially if you are just the courier.

And I have something to say to the table mechanic.

Sir, if you are the best in the business as has been attested to here almost universally and you are not making a very good income from the amount of time you spend on the road then you are either undercharging or severely mismanaging your income. Your situation is completely unknown to me but perhaps a good secretary/bookkeeper would be a welcome addition to your business.
 
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However, In this economy, IF the Cobra gave the Doc his $3K a year ago, THEN the Doc invested it, the Doc would have most likely LOST 1/2 of it!

So, by having the Cobra hold your money, YOU ARE ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY!

I wish the KingCobra was holding my money from 5 years ago. I'd be rich.

At any rate, my point is that one guy has a complaint. Nobody else here has a complaint. Do your own research ALL of that one complainer guy's posts, then decide if the complainer is the type you want to do business with.
 
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However, In this economy, IF the Cobra gave the Doc his $3K a year ago, THEN the Doc invested it, the Doc would have most likely LOST 1/2 of it!

So, by having the Cobra hold your money, YOU ARE ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY!

I wish the KingCobra was holding my money from 5 years ago. I'd be rich.

At any rate, my point is that one guy has a complaint. Nobody else here has a complaint. Do your own research ALL of that one complainer guy's posts, then decide if the complainer is the type you want to do business with.

So, if the table mechanic had held on to your money for a year would you feel good about it? Would you give him a pass because of his great reputation for putting a pool table together?

What does the reputation of the person who is owed the money have to do with it? Assuming he has 100 bad deals previously that still doesn't give anyone the right to delay the transfer of funds owed without some sort of amazing reason.

The one complaint is serious and has nothing to do with the capability of the table mechanic as a craftsman. It speaks to his competence as a businessman.

The great thing about a public forum however is that a person may air his grievances and the accused may defend himself and those that are able to can weigh in on one side or the other to build a clear picture of the actual situation.

So you may be right that the original poster also has a backstory and other issues and certainly he opens himself up to that side being researched by airing his grievance. Hopefully, however, we readers can separate the fact from the fiction through discovery.
 
the original poster

I agree with you. All I have read about the original poster was the excepts in this thread trying to make him look bad. From what I read I didn't see where he had actually wronged anyone, just pretty clueless as to how to conduct business. I already knew that from him putting up with this mess as long as he did.

Making the victim out to be the bad person is the last fallback of someone with no defense for their actions. It is still a common ploy to attempt in courtrooms, sometimes a lawyer even gets away with it. That doesn't make it right.

I am hereby offering my services as a middle man for any business deals that any and all of the people that feel this deal was OK make in the future. The only requirements are that the deals involve sums greater than $1000.00 and that you don't mind me using the funds for a year or two until I get around to returning them. Maybe a lot longer unless I get a lot of public heat on me about it.

I'll sweeten the pot, I'll bet a nickel with any third party that nobody takes me up on this deal! ("Sorry dude, I can't send your money right now, I had to pay out a nickel I wasn't expecting to, but you'll get it when I get it or at least when I have that much extra and nothing I'd rather do with it!")

Hu



So, if the table mechanic had held on to your money for a year would you feel good about it? Would you give him a pass because of his great reputation for putting a pool table together?

What does the reputation of the person who is owed the money have to do with it? Assuming he has 100 bad deals previously that still doesn't give anyone the right to delay the transfer of funds owed without some sort of amazing reason.

The one complaint is serious and has nothing to do with the capability of the table mechanic as a craftsman. It speaks to his competence as a businessman.

The great thing about a public forum however is that a person may air his grievances and the accused may defend himself and those that are able to can weigh in on one side or the other to build a clear picture of the actual situation.

So you may be right that the original poster also has a backstory and other issues and certainly he opens himself up to that side being researched by airing his grievance. Hopefully, however, we readers can separate the fact from the fiction through discovery.
 
,,, Hopefully, however, we readers can separate the fact from the fiction through discovery.

Fact - RKC admits he owes OP money.
Fiction - thinking that starting this thread will get the money paid any faster.

Solution - pay the man and move on.
 
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Fact - RKC admits he owes OP money.
Fiction - thinking that starting this thread will get the money paid any faster.

Solution - pay the man and move on.



Fact- He has ruined his good reputation amongst thinking folks.
 
However, In this economy, IF the Cobra gave the Doc his $3K a year ago, THEN the Doc invested it, the Doc would have most likely LOST 1/2 of it!

So, by having the Cobra hold your money, YOU ARE ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY!

I wish the KingCobra was holding my money from 5 years ago. I'd be rich.

At any rate, my point is that one guy has a complaint. Nobody else here has a complaint. Do your own research ALL of that one complainer guy's posts, then decide if the complainer is the type you want to do business with.

Actually the stock market has gone back up past 10,0000. He would have made a bundle with that money in his posession.
 
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I'am not taking up for Destrukkt. You have 19 post, 0 Itrade and Join Date Jul 2009. So its ok for you to come on here and call people Idiots More than once :confused:
 
Fact- He has ruined his good reputation amongst thinking folks.

You're entitled to your opinion which is surely shared by some here.
His reputation is all about table work which speaks for itself (and attested to by others).
 
You're entitled to your opinion which is surely shared by some here.
His reputation is all about table work which speaks for itself (and attested to by others).

It's OK Rick, I've stated that I owe DR. the money, the facts have nothing to do with these negative posters, they just like to stick their noses in other people business like THEY have something to do with it, THEN as if it's going to make a difference, voice their opinions in such a way as to make me out to be someone that I'm not, all they've done is show what kind of people they really are...nosey nobodies, as they've decided that they've all scratched me from their list of possible mechanics to come and work on their pool tables at home...without even considering if I would come in the first place, so my list of "Not to work" for just grows, as I would never work for someone so shallow as them, no mater how much was offered in cash, because as of right now, an offer of $10,000 in cash from ANY of them wouldn't even get me to THINK about moving in their direction.

I know what I'm doing, and that's all that counts, the DR will get his money sent to him on Tuesday, like I already told him, and that clears us up....but does NOTHING, and never will for some of the posters here:wink:

Glen
 
It's OK Rick, I've stated that I owe DR. the money, the facts have nothing to do with these negative posters, they just like to stick their noses in other people business like THEY have something to do with it, THEN as if it's going to make a difference, voice their opinions in such a way as to make me out to be someone that I'm not, all they've done is show what kind of people they really are...nosey nobodies, as they've decided that they've all scratched me from their list of possible mechanics to come and work on their pool tables at home...without even considering if I would come in the first place, so my list of "Not to work" for just grows, as I would never work for someone so shallow as them, no mater how much was offered in cash, because as of right now, an offer of $10,000 in cash from ANY of them wouldn't even get me to THINK about moving in their direction.

I know what I'm doing, and that's all that counts, the DR will get his money sent to him on Tuesday, like I already told him, and that clears us up....but does NOTHING, and never will for some of the posters here:wink:

Glen

Brothers don't shake hands.....brothers gotta hug.
 
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