Ross Noggle's Aiming System

Jen_Cen said:
Anyone ever look into this? ...
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Well, the claims in the advertising are very, very remarkable.

I think that if you have tried Byrne, Fels, Capelle, Martin, Mosconi, Kukla, Kanov and Stauch, Tucker, as well as checked out all of the free on-line information, and none of that has gotten where you feel you need to be, pool-knowledge-wise, then what could it hurt? Alternatively, you might consider adding a little more and getting a lesson from a local instructor who might be able to help with the specific problems you're having.

Which of the other authors have you read so far?
 
Bob Jewett said:
Well, the claims in the advertising are very, very remarkable.

I think that if you have tried Byrne, Fels, Capelle, Martin, Mosconi, Kukla, Kanov and Stauch, Tucker, as well as checked out all of the free on-line information, and none of that has gotten where you feel you need to be, pool-knowledge-wise, then what could it hurt? Alternatively, you might consider adding a little more and getting a lesson from a local instructor who might be able to help with the specific problems you're having.

Which of the other authors have you read so far?
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I believe I have read Byrne, Capelle, Martin, Kanov and Stauch, Tucker, and your info as well.

At first, the guy was charging $99, but then I guess nobody bought it, so he lowered it to $49. I e-mailed him questions about it, but he didn't reply.

I'm thinking about going to an instructor. I'm leery though. One of my friends went to a BCA Certified Instructor around here, who's website said he was "born with a pool cue in his hand" and he spent most of his youth shooting straight pool, etc. Turned out the guy was APA level 5.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Do you use any aiming system(s)?

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Not really. One guy at the room where I played showed me some system where "there was only 1 shot."

You sight every shot as if it was a half-ball hit, while positioning your tip off to the side. Then you pivot back to center and shoot. Supposedlt this is what Efen Reyes and all the Filipinos do.

For me it works when the object ball is close to the pocket. But it doesn't work all over the table.
 
Jen_Cen:
... One guy at the room where I played showed me some system where "there was only 1 shot."

You sight every shot as if it was a half-ball hit, while positioning your tip off to the side. Then you pivot back to center and shoot.
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Sounds like one of those Jedi systems that help you loosen up and use your Force. These systems are more psychological than scientific, and are better suited for some than others. Other systems like this claim there are more cut angles, but usually only a few.

Tucker's system looks similar to these but is different because it's upfront about the fact that its 9 system angles aren't the only angles needed to pocket every shot, and actually explains how to aim the in-between shots.

pj
chgo
 
JOe's system is different because.....

Patrick Johnson said:
Sounds like one of those Jedi systems that help you loosen up and use your Force. These systems are more psychological than scientific, and are better suited for some than others. Other systems like this claim there are more cut angles, but usually only a few.

Tucker's system looks similar to these but is different because it's upfront about the fact that its 9 system angles aren't the only angles needed to pocket every shot, and actually explains how to aim the in-between shots.

pj
chgo
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Joe's system is also different because it is rooted in geometric fact not magic angles of perception or other jedi B.S.
 
Jen_Cen said:
Not really. One guy at the room where I played showed me some system where "there was only 1 shot."

You sight every shot as if it was a half-ball hit, while positioning your tip off to the side. Then you pivot back to center and shoot. Supposedlt this is what Efen Reyes and all the Filipinos do.

For me it works when the object ball is close to the pocket. But it doesn't work all over the table.
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I'm curious since some people have claimed it works but haven't explained it, can you describe this further?

Are you using backhand English or something?
 
Jen_Cen said:
... One of my friends went to a BCA Certified Instructor around here, who's website said he was "born with a pool cue in his hand" and he spent most of his youth shooting straight pool, etc. Turned out the guy was APA level 5.
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Well, if you ever get out this way, I may be able to help, but be warned that I started playing fairly late in life, can't guarantee any improvement in your game, and am not an APA level 5.
 
Jen_Cen said:
I'm thinking about going to an instructor. I'm leery though. One of my friends went to a BCA Certified Instructor around here, who's website said he was "born with a pool cue in his hand" and he spent most of his youth shooting straight pool, etc. Turned out the guy was APA level 5.
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well the old adage, "He who cannot do, teaches".:D So, don't be too hard on him. Maybe his knowledge of teaching far surpasses that of performing.

But, I think if you locate an instructor in your area from the forum, you will be very well satisfied.

There is also a lot of very knowledgeable people on here that will guide you and provide you with enough information about the game to last a life time. However, without an instructor, YOU will have to make it work.

Good luck and welcome to the group
 
Joe's system is also different because it is rooted in geometric fact not magic angles of perception or other jedi B.S.
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Joe's system appears to be based on the principle of parallel aiming, which is a geometrically correct system like point-to-point, ghost ball and double-the-overlap.

pj
chgo
 
aiming systems

Jen_Cen said:
You sight every shot as if it was a half-ball hit, while positioning your tip off to the side. Then you pivot back to center and shoot.
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My local pool room owner uses this same technique and he pulls off some incredible ball pocketing. It works well when you keep the cue level. I would say it works better for 'stand up' shooters.
 
PKM said:
I'm curious since some people have claimed it works but haven't explained it, can you describe this further?

Are you using backhand English or something?
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To be fair, I don't have a great understanding of it to begin with.

So I don't want to butcher the explanation.

Maybe one of the more experienced people can post it.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
Well, if you ever get out this way, I may be able to help, but be warned that I started playing fairly late in life, can't guarantee any improvement in your game, and am not an APA level 5.
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Ha ha, that would be awesome Bob, but unfortunately I am on the East Coast!
 
klockdoc said:
well the old adage, "He who cannot do, teaches".:D So, don't be too hard on him. Maybe his knowledge of teaching far surpasses that of performing.

But, I think if you locate an instructor in your area from the forum, you will be very well satisfied.

There is also a lot of very knowledgeable people on here that will guide you and provide you with enough information about the game to last a life time. However, without an instructor, YOU will have to make it work.

Good luck and welcome to the group
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Thanks for the warm welcome Klock!

I'll give you an idea of where this instructor is at. When my friend asked about tips on safety play, the guy said he never really got into safeties himself. He said he would "rather go down swingin'."

Lesson learned is: always ask the instructor what level he plays at. He could be an APA 4 or 5 that just took an intructor course or whatever and then can call himself a BCA Instructor.
 
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