I have finally developed my new rubber wrap. It goes on like leather wraps and the more your hand sweats the grip-pier it gets. It will be going on my new "Pearl" line of cues. Earl has always wanted a rubber wrap and I have them now, for sale or I will put them on. They are in stock, call me at 864-430-7797, ask for Mike.
Rubber wraps
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One of the problems with the slip-on/roll-on rubber wraps that the carom players use is that they don't last for very long. Of course they are fairly thin and not attached to the cue so they tear easily. How long do you expect your wrap to last?
these are new kind of rubber wraps. they are permanently installed like leather. The seam can be sanded and hid. They do not require a deep cavity that destroys the wrap, area for changes. they come in pieces just like leather wraps.
What will be the color options (if any), and what is the price for one installed by you? Thanks.
What Brecht said :thumbup: How bout some go Vols Orange??????
so these wraps go into the groove like leather would? any trouble getting them into and out of instroke cases? friend of mine almost had a big problem because of the roll on rubber wraps.
reservoir tip???
Curious myself. Plus will it hurt certain cases when you pull the cue out. The rubber grabbing the felt.
Can we see a pic?
pic ?
i would also like to see a pic and get an answer to the longevity question, also a price
i would also like to see a pic and get an answer to the longevity question, also a price
Yes. The grippier the wrap the more chance it has to get stuck in a case. Any case with a snug fit is not good for rubber wraps.
We make a sleeve for this purpose. The rubber grips that are on Poision and Fury cues are fine in our cases but carom grips and similar levels of tack tend to get stuck. We have had a customer using an elephant skin wrap get his cue stuck.
You know of any retail sources for textured grips like on Lucasi's and others ? That could be rolled on like other grips . The factory grips have a padding which i wouldn't like , underneath the grip. Think Cuetec's had something called veltex , but in black only.
lol..........hahahahahha
Ask sfleinen, he knows where to to get them. Also you can ask in the carom section or just post a new thread in the main forum and one of the carom guys will hook you up.
Rubber grip options
Hi folks!
(Thanks John, for the referral. Your $0.01 agent's fee is in the mail.
)
As for "highly textured" wraps like you see on Lucasi Hybrid, I've never seen those in "roll-on" varieties. The texturing on those is so prominent, that a roll-on variety would be so thick as to be a beotch to install.
However, there are three textured varieties I like:
The first one (the Cyclone brand carom rubber grips) are the most common, and have a very nice knurled texture applied. If you're in the habit (as I previously was) of installing/uninstalling them each time you take your cue out of the case, they don't last long at all. (Micro-splits in the rubber at the ends of the "tube" turn into full-blown tears with the stresses of installation -- much like how an old rubber band starts at first with tiny little cracks, that get bigger, and finally snap at the next stress applied to it. But hey, considering how inexpensive these are, and how nice the knurled texture is, it's worthwhile to buy a handful of 'em.)
The second one I really like, because of how durable they are. Yes, they are expensive, but when you consider that your grip is your "interface" to your cue, you can splurge a bit here, especially if the grip itself is more durable than the cheapies. What's nice about these, is that they are made of a silicone rubber (much like the silicone bathtub sealant, except without the acrid acetic acid smell). Silicone is exponentially more durable than rubber, almost impervious to weather, and lasts a long, l-o-n-g time. I had my Crystal grips for over two years now (I found about these from AZB user "3kushn" on this thread), and they don't show signs of any wear and tear -- even with constant use. They are thicker than the Cyclone grips, but interestingly enough, are just as easy to install using the "roll-into-a-doughnut" installation technique -- the silicone "gives" a little easier than vulcanized rubber. The texturing on these is not as nice as the Cyclone brand, but the grippiness of the silicone seems to make up for that. The only downside of the Crystal grips is that they *will* add girth to the grip area of your cue, because of their thickness. You'll either want to install these on a cue whose butt is a little thinner than you're used to, or otherwise just force yourself to get used to the extra girth.
The third one, the Mezz SP Grip, I purchased directly from Caroline Pao of Mezz, however, you can get these at vendors such as BestBuyCues. The Mezz SP Grip seems to be made of a polyurethane rubber, and has approximately the same texturing as the Cycone vulcanized rubber grips. And being made of polyurethane, they are probably just as durable as the silicone rubber Crystal grips. The nice things about this grip are, as mentioned, the texturing, and they're thinner than the Crystal grips -- they don't add much girth to the grip area of the cue. So they have all the advantages of the Cyclone and Crystal grips, and none (that I've found, anyway) of the disadvantages. I've only had these for about six months, but they show no signs of wear and tear. I have a good feeling about these, durability-wise. These are rapidly becoming my favorite grips.
Finally, there's the option of going the cheap route, by repurposing a common item from the medical community. That item is Penrose drainage tubing, which is made of latex rubber. This is tubing that is installed inside of a wound to allow it to drain, and is available in all sizes. The upshot of Penrose tubing is that it's made of a very durable latex rubber, and is extremely thin. The downside is that most of the Penrose tubing products available (that I've found) are untextured -- very smooth. However, the "grippy" nature of the latex rubber, combined with the fact it doesn't add any noticeable girth to the grip area of your cue, combined with their inexpensive nature, seems to offset that pretty well. I learned about the use of Penrose drainage tubing as a cue grip material from AZB's own "greyghost" in this thread.
Case-wise, yes, it's not a question of if, but *when*, that you'll have a problem with a cue jamming in one of the butt slots. Most likely, you'll see this problem immediately -- the very first time you make a mistake and try to "get away with" putting your cue away with the rubber wrap still installed. (Because, let's be honest, uninstalling and reinstalling a rubber wrap each time you want to use your cue can be a pain in the taint.) After you've done this, the next time you want to use your cue and try to get it out of your case, you'll hear words come out of your mouth that'll make Andrew Dice Clay blush.
You'll have to use a cloth "sock," preferably made of the same material as pool gloves are made of, to drop your cue's butt into, before dropping it into your case. The upside of using a "cue sock" is that you can keep the rubber wrap installed (therefore letting even the Cyclones last that much longer), and the sock removes and installs without any effort. For those that use rubber wraps, it's really worth it.
Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
Hi folks!
(Thanks John, for the referral. Your $0.01 agent's fee is in the mail.
)As for "highly textured" wraps like you see on Lucasi Hybrid, I've never seen those in "roll-on" varieties. The texturing on those is so prominent, that a roll-on variety would be so thick as to be a beotch to install.
However, there are three textured varieties I like:
The first one (the Cyclone brand carom rubber grips) are the most common, and have a very nice knurled texture applied. If you're in the habit (as I previously was) of installing/uninstalling them each time you take your cue out of the case, they don't last long at all. (Micro-splits in the rubber at the ends of the "tube" turn into full-blown tears with the stresses of installation -- much like how an old rubber band starts at first with tiny little cracks, that get bigger, and finally snap at the next stress applied to it. But hey, considering how inexpensive these are, and how nice the knurled texture is, it's worthwhile to buy a handful of 'em.)
The second one I really like, because of how durable they are. Yes, they are expensive, but when you consider that your grip is your "interface" to your cue, you can splurge a bit here, especially if the grip itself is more durable than the cheapies. What's nice about these, is that they are made of a silicone rubber (much like the silicone bathtub sealant, except without the acrid acetic acid smell). Silicone is exponentially more durable than rubber, almost impervious to weather, and lasts a long, l-o-n-g time. I had my Crystal grips for over two years now (I found about these from AZB user "3kushn" on this thread), and they don't show signs of any wear and tear -- even with constant use. They are thicker than the Cyclone grips, but interestingly enough, are just as easy to install using the "roll-into-a-doughnut" installation technique -- the silicone "gives" a little easier than vulcanized rubber. The texturing on these is not as nice as the Cyclone brand, but the grippiness of the silicone seems to make up for that. The only downside of the Crystal grips is that they *will* add girth to the grip area of your cue, because of their thickness. You'll either want to install these on a cue whose butt is a little thinner than you're used to, or otherwise just force yourself to get used to the extra girth.
The third one, the Mezz SP Grip, I purchased directly from Caroline Pao of Mezz, however, you can get these at vendors such as BestBuyCues. The Mezz SP Grip seems to be made of a polyurethane rubber, and has approximately the same texturing as the Cycone vulcanized rubber grips. And being made of polyurethane, they are probably just as durable as the silicone rubber Crystal grips. The nice things about this grip are, as mentioned, the texturing, and they're thinner than the Crystal grips -- they don't add much girth to the grip area of the cue. So they have all the advantages of the Cyclone and Crystal grips, and none (that I've found, anyway) of the disadvantages. I've only had these for about six months, but they show no signs of wear and tear. I have a good feeling about these, durability-wise. These are rapidly becoming my favorite grips.
Finally, there's the option of going the cheap route, by repurposing a common item from the medical community. That item is Penrose drainage tubing, which is made of latex rubber. This is tubing that is installed inside of a wound to allow it to drain, and is available in all sizes. The upshot of Penrose tubing is that it's made of a very durable latex rubber, and is extremely thin. The downside is that most of the Penrose tubing products available (that I've found) are untextured -- very smooth. However, the "grippy" nature of the latex rubber, combined with the fact it doesn't add any noticeable girth to the grip area of your cue, combined with their inexpensive nature, seems to offset that pretty well. I learned about the use of Penrose drainage tubing as a cue grip material from AZB's own "greyghost" in this thread.
Case-wise, yes, it's not a question of if, but *when*, that you'll have a problem with a cue jamming in one of the butt slots. Most likely, you'll see this problem immediately -- the very first time you make a mistake and try to "get away with" putting your cue away with the rubber wrap still installed. (Because, let's be honest, uninstalling and reinstalling a rubber wrap each time you want to use your cue can be a pain in the taint.) After you've done this, the next time you want to use your cue and try to get it out of your case, you'll hear words come out of your mouth that'll make Andrew Dice Clay blush.
You'll have to use a cloth "sock," preferably made of the same material as pool gloves are made of, to drop your cue's butt into, before dropping it into your case. The upside of using a "cue sock" is that you can keep the rubber wrap installed (therefore letting even the Cyclones last that much longer), and the sock removes and installs without any effort. For those that use rubber wraps, it's really worth it.Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
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I will have pictures soon. I have been moving to Dalas. These wraps are a smooth black and are installed like a leather wrap so there will be no problems with your cases unless an installed leather wrap won't go in but that does not make sense.I get $100.00 to install the wrap if there is already a wrap. These are .030 thick so it will not interfere with any replacement.
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Hi folks!
(Thanks John, for the referral. Your $0.01 agent's fee is in the mail.
As for "highly textured" wraps like you see on Lucasi Hybrid, I've never seen those in "roll-on" varieties. The texturing on those is so prominent, that a roll-on variety would be so thick as to be a beotch to install.
However, there are three textured varieties I like:
The first one (the Cyclone brand carom rubber grips) are the most common, and have a very nice knurled texture applied. If you're in the habit (as I previously was) of installing/uninstalling them each time you take your cue out of the case, they don't last long at all. (Micro-splits in the rubber at the ends of the "tube" turn into full-blown tears with the stresses of installation -- much like how an old rubber band starts at first with tiny little cracks, that get bigger, and finally snap at the next stress applied to it. But hey, considering how inexpensive these are, and how nice the knurled texture is, it's worthwhile to buy a handful of 'em.)
The second one I really like, because of how durable they are. Yes, they are expensive, but when you consider that your grip is your "interface" to your cue, you can splurge a bit here, especially if the grip itself is more durable than the cheapies. What's nice about these, is that they are made of a silicone rubber (much like the silicone bathtub sealant, except without the acrid acetic acid smell). Silicone is exponentially more durable than rubber, almost impervious to weather, and lasts a long, l-o-n-g time. I had my Crystal grips for over two years now (I found about these from AZB user "3kushn" on this thread), and they don't show signs of any wear and tear -- even with constant use. They are thicker than the Cyclone grips, but interestingly enough, are just as easy to install using the "roll-into-a-doughnut" installation technique -- the silicone "gives" a little easier than vulcanized rubber. The texturing on these is not as nice as the Cyclone brand, but the grippiness of the silicone seems to make up for that. The only downside of the Crystal grips is that they *will* add girth to the grip area of your cue, because of their thickness. You'll either want to install these on a cue whose butt is a little thinner than you're used to, or otherwise just force yourself to get used to the extra girth.
The third one, the Mezz SP Grip, I purchased directly from Caroline Pao of Mezz, however, you can get these at vendors such as BestBuyCues. The Mezz SP Grip seems to be made of a polyurethane rubber, and has approximately the same texturing as the Cycone vulcanized rubber grips. And being made of polyurethane, they are probably just as durable as the silicone rubber Crystal grips. The nice things about this grip are, as mentioned, the texturing, and they're thinner than the Crystal grips -- they don't add much girth to the grip area of the cue. So they have all the advantages of the Cyclone and Crystal grips, and none (that I've found, anyway) of the disadvantages. I've only had these for about six months, but they show no signs of wear and tear. I have a good feeling about these, durability-wise. These are rapidly becoming my favorite grips.
Finally, there's the option of going the cheap route, by repurposing a common item from the medical community. That item is Penrose drainage tubing, which is made of latex rubber. This is tubing that is installed inside of a wound to allow it to drain, and is available in all sizes. The upshot of Penrose tubing is that it's made of a very durable latex rubber, and is extremely thin. The downside is that most of the Penrose tubing products available (that I've found) are untextured -- very smooth. However, the "grippy" nature of the latex rubber, combined with the fact it doesn't add any noticeable girth to the grip area of your cue, combined with their inexpensive nature, seems to offset that pretty well. I learned about the use of Penrose drainage tubing as a cue grip material from AZB's own "greyghost" in this thread.
Case-wise, yes, it's not a question of if, but *when*, that you'll have a problem with a cue jamming in one of the butt slots. Most likely, you'll see this problem immediately -- the very first time you make a mistake and try to "get away with" putting your cue away with the rubber wrap still installed. (Because, let's be honest, uninstalling and reinstalling a rubber wrap each time you want to use your cue can be a pain in the taint.) After you've done this, the next time you want to use your cue and try to get it out of your case, you'll hear words come out of your mouth that'll make Andrew Dice Clay blush.
Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
Thank You , appreciate that . Didn't realize those grips were much thicker , thanks for the links .