Run This (11)
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There is no break shot here that I really like, and the balls are sitting pretty well for making one. If the balls were not sitting so well, I'd accept the 12 as a break. Anyway, I see two ways to make a standard "side of the rack" break shot, and one of them naturally leads to the other if I mess up the first one.bluepepper said:
Under other circumstances, the 8 would be a good break shot even though I'm right handed. It would require a better ball to get onto the rail just above the 8 for a thin-hit break. It's possible to get there from the position shown but there is no good ball to do it with.
You can take a free shot at bumping out the 8, you don't have to get perfect on the 5 and you should have a decent shot on the 12. If you get the wrong angle on the 7 in the side you can shoot the 15 in the side.
I don't know how to make the wei table show up so you have to click on the link.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@3EWIy4GOEh3...cpy3PLjw@3EcQw1GenA3HMsl3Icxq4LdOo3Ocpy3PLjw@
I don't know how to make the wei table show up so you have to click on the link.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@3EWIy4GOEh3...cpy3PLjw@3EcQw1GenA3HMsl3Icxq4LdOo3Ocpy3PLjw@
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Sometimes it's hard to tell the angles with the Wei table, but I think you have to be a lot straighter on the 5 than you've shown to bump the 8. I would shoot the 15 first to get a straigher angle to move the 8, even though the 15 is my preferred key ball for the 8.Marop said:
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I'm with Bob on this one. I'd shoot the 12 with about a half tip outside english to bump the 9 out (cue ball A). From there I shoot the 15 and clean up the others. 7 is the key ball. If I miss the 9 and end up somewhere near B then I go for the 5 and bump the 8 out. Then clean up the others and leave the 15 for the key ball. I wouldn't shoot the 7 or the 15 first in any case because they are good key balls, and you aren't sure yet which side of the table your break ball is going to be on.
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I did something very similar to what you both have suggested.
Exactly what I had in mind. If the first try doesn't work, you have another barrel.Dan White said:
That's the best lesson I've learnt from "Run this" series so far - don't miss a single detail. I tried to approach the position with the potential break balls present (8 or better 12) but I see there is a way for a real straight pool player to develop the position and improve the chances to extend his run.Bob Jewett said:
Thanks Bob and Dan.
I like Bob's solution the best - but this another lower percentage alternative -
Shot 1 - knock in the 9 and get on the 12
Shot 2 - 12 in the corner, come out towards center table for the 15
Shot 3 - 15 in the side get on the 7
Shot 4 - 7 in the side, draw back for a good angle on the 5
Shot 5 - pocket the 5 ball and draw behind the 8
In the diagram, I show the cue ball staying closer to the rail - drawing in behind and around the 8 - not sure sure I would like to do that, the position is tricky and very low percentage. Honestly, I would have a better chance just using the 12 ball on the bottom rail as a break ball - by doing something like this -
Bluepepper - I have a one for you to look at - it's a straight pool table management test - I'll start a new thread for that one...
Shot 1 - knock in the 9 and get on the 12
Shot 2 - 12 in the corner, come out towards center table for the 15
Shot 3 - 15 in the side get on the 7
Shot 4 - 7 in the side, draw back for a good angle on the 5
Shot 5 - pocket the 5 ball and draw behind the 8
In the diagram, I show the cue ball staying closer to the rail - drawing in behind and around the 8 - not sure sure I would like to do that, the position is tricky and very low percentage. Honestly, I would have a better chance just using the 12 ball on the bottom rail as a break ball - by doing something like this -
Bluepepper - I have a one for you to look at - it's a straight pool table management test - I'll start a new thread for that one...
Blackjack, I didn't even consider the 5 as the key ball. It just goes to show how many ways there are to look at a table. And maybe if there's a legitimate way to use the 15 as the ball before the 5 you have perfect position for the draw around the 8.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I think I'd try the 15 with easy draw (a foot or so) the 5 gently nudging the 8 out, then the 12, 9, and 7. Or, if I came up a little too far on the 9, I'd play the 7 first, 9 in the top left pocket and stun up for the 8.
The thing is, once you play the 5 and nudge the 8, depending on that new lie, you may decide the 12 is a good break shot and finish a whole different way. With 6 balls on the table, and my superior position play, I can easily get all the way to plan "E" or "F"
The thing is, once you play the 5 and nudge the 8, depending on that new lie, you may decide the 12 is a good break shot and finish a whole different way. With 6 balls on the table, and my superior position play, I can easily get all the way to plan "E" or "F"
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Blackjack I too like your first table the best, it was the first run I thought of when I studied the table before looking at the other solutions. I guess great minds think alike? I always like what Bob Jewett comes up with as he always seems to make sense to me, and I like that I learn to look for other ways to get to a certain place. Great exercise for the mind and then to take to the felt.
I play it the same way you do, Blackjack, except I draw out around the 8 and shoot it in the lower pocket rather than going the long rail. I may go with the far end pocket depending on how I end up on that 5 though. I love the concept of bumping up the 9 or bumping out the 8 for a break but I gotta be honest with myself, my cue ball control isn't tight enough that I would risk screwing it up.
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