SALUX System: a new pivot system
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Claude,
You asked:
"Is your pictured system working with one cut do it all.."
It works with all cut angles.
I describe it more in my other thread, "OB contact point, shift & pivot ",
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=448090
Have fun.
Pivot point changes
The pivot point would need to be farther away from the CB
as the distance increases between CB and OB. I run into the
same problem with CTE when diagramed.
What is the compensation for this changing pivot point?
UPDATE: AFTER PLOTTING IT OUT ON A COMPUTER,
THE PIVOT POINT DOES NOT CHANGE WHEN USING
THE SALUX METHOD. The reason why is because the
initial reference point on the CB is on the backside toward
the pocket. Interesting method. Probably very handy on some shots!
The pivot point would need to be farther away from the CB
as the distance increases between CB and OB. I run into the
same problem with CTE when diagramed.
What is the compensation for this changing pivot point?
UPDATE: AFTER PLOTTING IT OUT ON A COMPUTER,
THE PIVOT POINT DOES NOT CHANGE WHEN USING
THE SALUX METHOD. The reason why is because the
initial reference point on the CB is on the backside toward
the pocket. Interesting method. Probably very handy on some shots!
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CTE is all visual, no pivot required in the form of I have to maunually do this to arrive at the shot line. Vision does ALL of the work.
Why is pivoting tied to CTE? Hal taught pivoting , so everyone thought PIVOTING was inherent to the process. Well, it's not and Hal knew that.There is a major reason as to why PIVOTING is a part of learning CTE, though.
In conventional aiming, there is an alignment for a straight- in that everyone knows about. That is the way CTE is full-time. See the CB OB relation and just align the cue like it is a straight in.
I said many years ago right here on AZ that pivoting is overrated. I was right. I know why that I thought that and now I can fully explain it.
Having said all of this, I still teach pivoting just like Hal did but for the right reason.
Stan Shuffett
Why is pivoting tied to CTE? Hal taught pivoting , so everyone thought PIVOTING was inherent to the process. Well, it's not and Hal knew that.There is a major reason as to why PIVOTING is a part of learning CTE, though.
In conventional aiming, there is an alignment for a straight- in that everyone knows about. That is the way CTE is full-time. See the CB OB relation and just align the cue like it is a straight in.
I said many years ago right here on AZ that pivoting is overrated. I was right. I know why that I thought that and now I can fully explain it.
Having said all of this, I still teach pivoting just like Hal did but for the right reason.
Stan Shuffett
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I think I understand. A pivot system or CTE aiming can show you the line of
aim. You can visualize this line, using CTE or a pivot like SALUX, then get
right down on that line to stroke the shot without actually pivoting.
Is this correct? (I catch on slow, but retain very well.)
aim. You can visualize this line, using CTE or a pivot like SALUX, then get
right down on that line to stroke the shot without actually pivoting.
Is this correct? (I catch on slow, but retain very well.)
It is all about what to look at and how to use your eyes. I am super slow because it has taken me ten years to be able to properly explain what happens with CTE.
Stan Shuffett
Hi LAMas,
This is what you posted in response to SALUX explaining his new aiming system.
So, please can you explain or direct me to a post explaining this system you posted as being another simple aiming system and what is the name of that system.
Thank you in advance.
Claude.
See post # 62.
Also:
Claude,
You wrote:
"If I aim at CCB to EOB and parallel shift at Center OB( ignoring CB) to about quarter or CB then pivot to center it should pocket balls in the 30deg (half ball range)"
If you aim at CCB to Edge of the OB (EOB) that would be the contact point for a 90 degree cut. Forget about the "quarter or CB" don't look at the relative position that you tip is in relation to the CB for it changes with changes in separation//distance between the CB and OB - focus only on the OB contact point pre parallel shift to center of the OB.
Actually as the distance between the CB and OB changes, the relative perceived size of the OB becomes smaller or larger so the shift to the center of the OB changes in direct linear proportion - small shift for OB far away and larger shift for the OB close. No need to change your comfortable/normal bridge distance between the CB and Bridge.
It is known that pivot systems like this can compensate for the distance between the CB and OB by shifting the tip by 1.4, 1.2, full or....etc.. Or moving the bridge back and forth with the same tip offset.
Have fun.
PoolCat
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Brian must have been scared off by a complaint that he was selling poology in every one of his posts. So I'll be his spokesperson !
His method has no pivot and no bridge length. If you miss you didn't deliver the CB to where you aimed.
How about no posts in a year and 2 in a few weeks.
His method has no pivot and no bridge length. If you miss you didn't deliver the CB to where you aimed.
How about no posts in a year and 2 in a few weeks.
Thanks for slipping in a positive comment for "Poolology" Mike!
As far as SALUX method, it looks workable. The bridge length/pivot point works out to be
about 3.5" on shots where the OB is a foot from the pocket, and around 6" when OB
is 3 feet from the pocket. You'd have to know how to compensate for that.
With requiring a short bridge, it would probably be a good system on bar boxes
where a short jab-like stroke often gets used.
As far as SALUX method, it looks workable. The bridge length/pivot point works out to be
about 3.5" on shots where the OB is a foot from the pocket, and around 6" when OB
is 3 feet from the pocket. You'd have to know how to compensate for that.
With requiring a short bridge, it would probably be a good system on bar boxes
where a short jab-like stroke often gets used.