SBE "Amateur" event

It's only 65 bucks man.. for me that doesn't mean much. I'm sorry if that is to you. Not putting you down.. everyone is different.

So? How long?

Put me down? Not at all.

How many weeks in a row would you play an event that had you play svb early every time???
 
So? How long?

Put me down? Not at all.

How many weeks in a row would you play an event that had you play svb early every time???

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you lol if your scared say your scared. It's once a year. I don't care. I'm fine it with it.
 
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you lol if your scared say your scared. It's once a year. I don't care. I'm fine it with it.

Wyf? I think it is a reasonable question... You say it as though people should be okay with just donating their money, but that is not sustainable.
 
I think a majority of players that play in the open have absolutely no expectations of winning or even cashing. They may play TAP so they enter for the heck of it since they will be there anyways. So basically with no real expectations we are basically donating money. So yeah I would love to play SVB. BEATS getting beat by some kid.

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Wyf? I think it is a reasonable question... You say it as though people should be okay with just donating their money, but that is not sustainable.


Well yeah.... But you guys are talking past one another.

You ask how many weeks in a row would someone pay $65 to join a tournament where they have no chance? That, standing alone, is a legitimate question.

But you said it in response to someone who in effect was conveying something pretty different from that.

Suppose you're a pool nut. You think about it at least some every day. Your friends and family think of you as "the pool player." You even lurk on pool discussion forums. One a year you take some days off of work, travel with a few friends to a gargantuan gathering of like-minded people. You pay for hotel and food, buy a new case from John Barton because you really NEED it, stay up too late, and generally have a great time.

For an extra 10-15% beyond what you're already spending--the cost of a good steak dinner--, you can enter a tournament where you probably won't go very far and definitely won't go really far. But you might get further than you expect. You might get to bed thinking "hey I'm still in this thing." The disappointment of losing out because you dogged an easy shot or moving on because you stayed down and got out in a difficult situation is what makes you feel alive. You might even draw somebody who you normally only see on an internet stream...

That's a pretty different situation from beating your head against the same weekly-tournament wall...
 
I think a majority of players that play in the open have absolutely no expectations of winning or even cashing. They may play TAP so they enter for the heck of it since they will be there anyways. So basically with no real expectations we are basically donating money. So yeah I would love to play SVB. BEATS getting beat by some kid. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
I agree. I like that idea.
I'd love to play SVB on the cheap. He'd win, of course, but I'd try to drive him bat crazy throwing snooker after snooker at him and making him work. :)
It would be a fantastic training experience....AND he is such a gentleman. That alone is worth the price paid.
I'd even gamble with him....................$5 a game. :D:D
 
Thanks for the gavel strike, Mike.

Makes sense, we are approaching the topic from slightly different perspectives.
 
I agree. I like that idea.
I'd love to play SVB on the cheap. He'd win, of course, but I'd try to drive him bat crazy throwing snooker after snooker at him and making him work. :)
It would be a fantastic training experience....AND he is such a gentleman. That alone is worth the price paid.
I'd even gamble with him....................$5 a game. :D:D
Haha...you wouldnt do anything of the sort to svb.

Youd go 3-10 games in a row without a shot to do something of your own choosing.

Then youd realize you cant wrestle with a gorilla.
 
Haha...you wouldnt do anything of the sort to svb.
Youd go 3-10 games in a row without a shot to do something of your own choosing.
Then youd realize you cant wrestle with a gorilla.
So what?
The idea is to play against a champion who has style, skill, and dignity.
(some things I imagine you do not have)
Just my opinion, though.
 
Well yeah.... But you guys are talking past one another.

You ask how many weeks in a row would someone pay $65 to join a tournament where they have no chance? That, standing alone, is a legitimate question.

But you said it in response to someone who in effect was conveying something pretty different from that.

Suppose you're a pool nut. You think about it at least some every day. Your friends and family think of you as "the pool player." You even lurk on pool discussion forums. One a year you take some days off of work, travel with a few friends to a gargantuan gathering of like-minded people. You pay for hotel and food, buy a new case from John Barton because you really NEED it, stay up too late, and generally have a great time.

For an extra 10-15% beyond what you're already spending--the cost of a good steak dinner--, you can enter a tournament where you probably won't go very far and definitely won't go really far. But you might get further than you expect. You might get to bed thinking "hey I'm still in this thing." The disappointment of losing out because you dogged an easy shot or moving on because you stayed down and got out in a difficult situation is what makes you feel alive. You might even draw somebody who you normally only see on an internet stream...

That's a pretty different situation from beating your head against the same weekly-tournament wall...

I can picture Jack Nicholson saying this. Pretty much sums up a lot of us.
 
So what?
The idea is to play against a champion who has style, skill, and dignity.
(some things I imagine you do not have)
Just my opinion, though.

He's actually been around a long time, a good guy, and a great player. So yes, just your opinion. He was simply saying that, while it's always fun to say that I would gamble with so and so, it often turns out to suck because you never really get a shot and the only thing you walk away with is being able to say I donated $xxx to Y. If that's your thing then have at it but it doesn't make him a bad guy for pointing it out.
 
there's always gonna be guys who would feel happy, honored even, to draw someone like SVB in a Wednesday Warmup kind of situation. It's a great experience and you'll have a story to tell and a fun memory. Hell, you might even win a game. :smile:

then there's others who play the warmup really hoping for the chance to play random other amateurs for the chance to start their sbe with a few extra hundos in their pocket that might make a difference for them on what level of food they eat or maybe can get some equipment at the show. This group might be less appreciative of running into a buzzsaw (read pro) at an event that's advertised as being amateur.

Same could be said about the open which def has some pro-level players in it.

I think the wednesday warmup should either be a genuine amateur event with no pros stealing lunch money or just list it as a pro-am event.

here's an honest question everyone should ask themselves:

if you made it say 4 or 5 rounds in the Amateur Open then drew Josh Roberts or Jonathan Pinegar, would you be good with it?

be honest. ;)

best,
brian kc
 
So what?

The idea is to play against a champion who has style, skill, and dignity.

(some things I imagine you do not have)

Just my opinion, though.


I imagine he does have some, and he likely plays a touch stronger than you do.

Just my opinion though
 
Even if you take those big name players out of the tournament whoever wins the tournament
Is probably going to play very close to pro speed anyway. I've never been to SBE
but even if I played every year I wouldn't expect to do very well in the tournament


On another note people go to the Derby and donate their entry fee every year
 
So what?
The idea is to play against a champion who has style, skill, and dignity.
(some things I imagine you do not have)
Just my opinion, though.

You may not know it, but, you're talking to a guy who will roll in the gravel
with good players.........he wins once in a while, also.
 
there's always gonna be guys who would feel happy, honored even, to draw someone like SVB in a Wednesday Warmup kind of situation. It's a great experience and you'll have a story to tell and a fun memory. Hell, you might even win a game. :smile:
then there's others who play the warmup really hoping for the chance to play random other amateurs for the chance to start their sbe with a few extra hundos in their pocket that might make a difference for them on what level of food they eat or maybe can get some equipment at the show. This group might be less appreciative of running into a buzzsaw (read pro) at an event that's advertised as being amateur.
Same could be said about the open which def has some pro-level players in it.
I think the wednesday warmup should either be a genuine amateur event with no pros stealing lunch money or just list it as a pro-am event.
here's an honest question everyone should ask themselves:
if you made it say 4 or 5 rounds in the Amateur Open then drew Josh Roberts or Jonathan Pinegar, would you be good with it?
be honest. ;)
best,
brian kc
Sure...why not?
I think it would be great training and great experience, at a very reasonable price, too.
Might even get lucky and see one of them dog an easy shot......it's happened before.
:)
 
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you lol if your scared say your scared. It's once a year. I don't care. I'm fine it with it.

Trob I did the same thing in my college years in S. IL at Janscos in Johnson City. I only played in the 14.1 division. The field tho was waaaaaaaaaay stronger than this event and I didn't play in the 1 pocket or nine ball, because that's allot of entry fees for a college kid. Play was on 9 footers, and it was a special moment in my life, tho I come from a sports background and know losing is part of life. Some nitty pool players always want the best of it. Your teachers in life are your beat downs. Many can't take it or handle it....that's how they are wired. Some never give up and keep trying. Loses in life are what life is all about. Some never get that. But playing guys like Lassiter/Crane/Balsis/Rempe/Marino/Boston Shorty/Weenie Beanie/Coslosky/Amadeo/Ronnie Allen in my early years was not to be missed, it was ''exciting'' you understand. FUN.
 
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There's a big difference between knowingly sacrificing your money to pros in a professional event, and pulling a known pro in the first or second round of an amateur event when everyone else plays around your speed.
 
You may not know it, but, you're talking to a guy who will roll in the gravel
with good players.........he wins once in a while, also.

Ha, most of my gravel time is a result of that silly bicycle. Pretty sure it hates me (but thats ok, im gonna buy another one...show it who's boss!)
 
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