Schon vs. Joss

skankhammer

skankhammer

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I own several Joss cues, and really like the hit of them. I have heard that Schon cues have a similar hit, but have never played with one, not too many in my area, what i am wondering, is the difference in the price justified, in thems of playablity? I know the resell is better on a Schon, but is the playabily worth the additional cost?
 
I have heard simliar things about them hitting the same but i never shot with a schon so i cant say anything bad i do know they are good cues.
As far as a re-sell vaule i think it varies from one Joss to another Schon. I would think the value might be between which of the two are harder to find.

like my main playing Joss is one of a kind so it might hold its value better than some schons out there. But i think it might vary from cue to cue and im no expert i could be wrong so feel free to correct me .
 
I have a nice Schon, and I have hit with a few Joss cues too, and I must say they do not hit the same. The older Joss cues hit similar, but not the same, and the newer Joss cues hit good, but not like a Schon. If I was going to buy one or the other, without a doubt, I would pay the little extra cash and buy the Schon. Im not saying I would not ever buy a Joss, I just prefer the hit of a Schon. Of course this is all my subjective opinion.




Joe
 
They do not hit the same, the Schon feels more solid. I have compared them side by side each with their original shafts and then with the same 314 shaft and even with the Joss shaft on both butts (did not test with the schon shaft on both cues as the schon joint is has a tight fir and couldn't fit the Joss)
I used to own both, sold the Joss and still have the Schon...
 
I also heard that the shaft from a Joss and Schon are interchangeable or were at some point have you tried that ? I also never knew that Schon's were more money than Joss Cues, But i would love to see the diffrence in hit on my 4200 cue Vs a 4200 Schon I would inmagine the should be the same or very simliar i would inmagine but i an very intrested to find out.
 
I used to play a Schon cue with a joss shaft. Schons feel a little stiffer to me. I always liked the way schon's looked better and right now joss has nothing I like.
 
i agree

i agree with Schon cues looking better. I am considering getting one, i just dont want to have to make a major adjustment to the hit.
 
> The shafts are interchangeable from a Joss to a Schon,but not in reverse. Schons have a slightly undersized pin,so the Joss shaft will fit. The Schon shaft will screw down onto a Joss butt about 3 full turns,then locks up tight,the difference in the pin is .010 at the top and the bottom of the thread.

The playability issue leans heavily in Schon's direction,but the cost difference may make up for that to some people.

You also have to make sure you're comparing similar cues though. A Joss from the late 80's may very well have the edge over a newer Schon. My Schon from 1991 would make a new Joss feel like a Viper :thumbup:.

Both,in my opinion,play better with ivory ferrules. Tommy D.
 
I've had both and both hit well. I, like others that have posted here, like the cosmetics of the Schon cues more than the Joss cues, but I have seen a few Joss cues I really liked. I think right now you can get a Schon cue for a real good price on here right now if you are looking.
 
I have owned both and have actually switched to a schon from a joss ,back in the early 90's . The schon's play stiffer and i just liked the feel and feedback i got from my schon compared to the joss, now a days i would not buy a production joss cause from what i heard they are made elsewhere and imported to the usa. I sold all my joss cue's still have my schon , but now all i play with is customs .for the past 5 years <<
 
Have owned 4 Joss and about one dozen Schons. To me the Schons hit much better and give better feedback. If you find an old Joss from the eighties they hit much better than newer Joss cues. Many people say the old Schons from the eighties hit much better than newer Schons. To me all Schons hit good. Hit is very subjective. Some may prefer Jossover Schon but I have never heard anyone make that comment. Now shoot with couple Oliviers but have kept 4 of my old Schons. They just look good, hit great and I didnt want to give them up. My 2 cents worth
 
skankhammer said:
I own several Joss cues, and really like the hit of them. I have heard that Schon cues have a similar hit, but have never played with one, not too many in my area, what i am wondering, is the difference in the price justified, in thems of playablity? I know the resell is better on a Schon, but is the playabily worth the additional cost?
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i think that joss cues are the better cue imo. they're not as fancy as schons but after seeing that picture of a schon cut down the middle i think i'd stick with joss
 
I have played with both. I really like the feel of the old schon's up until the mid 90's. However I like the playability of a Joss. For me the Joss seems to play better but just doesn't have the feedback. I have own several Joss's and have always had a very good shaft on them. As it's been said this is all subjective.
 
JoseV said:
.... But i would love to see the diffrence in hit on my 4200 cue Vs a 4200 Schon I would inmagine the should be the same or very simliar i would inmagine but i an very intrested to find out.
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I doubt if your $4200 Joss hit much different then a $500 Joss. you payed about $500 for playability and $3700 for cosmetics.... the shaft is probably just the same shaft that comes with a $200 Joss.
Same goes to fancy Schons vs. simpler Schons.

If you compare two cues that cost $4200 then compare the art work and not the playability....
Most of the playability comes from the shaft and tip, the butt affect the feel more the it affect playability. Take the test I've done using the same 314 shaft on two butts (actually 4 butts as the same shaft fits my McDaniel and my Jacoby as well) each cue feels different but all play the same with the same shaft. Your $4200 went into how the butt will look and not how the cue will play.
To be honest, if I had to spend $4200 on a cue then neither Joss or Schon would be my pick...
 
I can't answer the question because I've never owned a Joss but I do have a story. I was in a tournament with my Schon and the guy I was playing asked me where I got my cue. When I told him Cue & Cushion he said he used to own my cue, traded it for the Joss he was using.

I won the match, beating him with his former cue, but he went on to win the tournament with his Joss.
 
alstl said:
I can't answer the question because I've never owned a Joss but I do have a story. I was in a tournament with my Schon and the guy I was playing asked me where I got my cue. When I told him Cue & Cushion he said he used to own my cue, traded it for the Joss he was using.

I won the match, beating him with his former cue, but he went on to win the tournament with his Joss.
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Well i guess that proves it?????

i've seen a few threads on here of pictures of people's schons that were broken. most of them say that the guy just dropped the cue, from the leaning it against the table or some thing, and it breaks at the forearm. i've never heard of joss's breaking that easily
 
I love the feel of the Runde Schons. I've gone through about 25 cues, but always come back to my Schon R12. I had an S-14 once that was the best cue
I've ever hit with. Joss feel nice, but the old Schon feel sturdy and smooth.
 
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