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Schon make a very nice hitting cue. Also they make them in a price range for everyone. If you buy one you won't be disappointed. However I have a Schon , but I shoot with a Jerry Olivier and it hits IMO better than the Schon.---Smitty
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radge69 said:
Agreed! There is a lot of nice Schons on this forum that have been selling for dirt cheap lately IMHO. If you decide to purchase one you shoud have an easy time finding what you like.
it's going to play different from your predator that's for sure.
good cues good hit, And u can find one for ur price range. From rock bottom to a couple of grand
I am proud to say i live in Milwaukee where they are made and know the owner. Schon cues are in a class not so much of there own but rank up there with all the solid hitting cue manufacturers.
However if you have become adapted to the hit and low deflection of the Predator you may have trouble adjusting.
My 2 cents
TJ
However if you have become adapted to the hit and low deflection of the Predator you may have trouble adjusting.
My 2 cents
TJ
> I've had mine for 17 years. Since I bought it,I've hit balls with as many others as possible,totaling close to 5-600 cues of all different constructions,woods,and joint types. Only 10 or so of those would be an equal or superior replacement. But,that's just me. Tommy D.
Schons are solid hitting cues. Many pros currently, or have in the past, used Schons with great success, including Johnny Archer and Alex Pagulyon(sp). Alex played with a Schon butt and a Predator shaft for years - it looks like he used his old Schon butt during the recent events in Vegas - Also, Shane Vanboening used his mother's old schon butt with his old joss shaft during his great run last year.
Hope this helps a little. Dave
Hope this helps a little. Dave
I used to shoot with a Predator cue but just switched to a Schon a few weeks ago and I love it. I put an OB-1 shaft on the cue and it hits even better now even with a crappy tip on it. Like someone else said "You can't go wrong with a Schon." 
I've used a bunch of high end cues and I ended up sticking with the Schon. The old R-Era cues are phenominal. Schons feel so good. Very different than a Predator. Try and find a bud that has one. Use it for a day the see what you think. If you like it, try and find one from 1982 through 1991. Magic.
I have had a STL-4 that I just sold a few days ago - it played lights out for sure. There is a tremendous difference between a Predator and a Schon for sure - but if you put a predator shaft on the Schon it will be OK and not much - if any - adjustment needed. I played with it the stock iv. shaft and it was great - but very stiff
I highly recommend a Schon, I think they are much better than Joss, McDermott, Meucci, Pech, or even Predator now - considering the horrible quality control of Predator.
I highly recommend a Schon, I think they are much better than Joss, McDermott, Meucci, Pech, or even Predator now - considering the horrible quality control of Predator.
Hey poo
What did you get instead?
If you like the Predator shafts playability and feel and the reduction in cue ball deflection then you will like this combination and it will be much more then OK.....
Personally I didn't like the the hit/feel/playability of Mcdermott, (new) Meucci or Viking BUT I do think that Pechauer and Jacoby are right up there with the Schon when it comes to quality and playability.
Can't really compare it to a Predator unless you put a Predator shaft on the Schon or a single piece shaft on the Predator...
But I do like the Schon/Predator combo better then a full Predator cue, mainly because of the balance point.
I would like to see more Schon cues lighter then 19oz tho.
Why do you think that the quality control of Predator is horrible?
poohkiller said:
What did you get instead?
poohkiller said:
If you like the Predator shafts playability and feel and the reduction in cue ball deflection then you will like this combination and it will be much more then OK.....
poohkiller said:
Personally I didn't like the the hit/feel/playability of Mcdermott, (new) Meucci or Viking BUT I do think that Pechauer and Jacoby are right up there with the Schon when it comes to quality and playability.
Can't really compare it to a Predator unless you put a Predator shaft on the Schon or a single piece shaft on the Predator...
But I do like the Schon/Predator combo better then a full Predator cue, mainly because of the balance point.
I would like to see more Schon cues lighter then 19oz tho.
Why do you think that the quality control of Predator is horrible?
Hey skor!
I got a Capone 4 pointer cue with ivory inlays! I'll send you the link to it in a PM
I agree with you on that, I just said simply OK because I am not playing with Predator anymore. However, the player who bought my STL immedaitely put a 314(2) shaft on it - and he plays lights out with that cue. Last night literally no one could beat him despite that there were a couple of really good shooters.
I don't think that we'll see many Schons at or under 19 oz. because of their laminated handle - that should weigh a bit more. My Schon shaft weighted 4.5 oz and I have never really heard of a schon shaft under 4 oz.
I do not know whether they core their butt sections but if they don't then that should add quite some extra weight to their cues - my cue was built using plenty of ebony.
As for Schon's balance... well, I have never experienced anything balanced better than a Schon - but I am still waiting for my Capone to arrive
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I said that about predator's quality because I am running into more and more defective cues and shafts. For example the Air cues' finish is running off of them and it gets dinged very easily - I do not have one because even those player's cues get dinged who show extreme care to their equipment. My friend's only 6 months old BLAK-3 started to buzz in a way that you wouldn't expect from a $100 Scorpion cue. And I could go on...
I am pretty sad having to face all this as I loved my Predator 5k2 very much.
However I could feel - for some reason - that my Schon was constructed much much better than that BLAK-3 or any other production cue in the pool hall I am playing at.
It is good to see you here, skor! How's your McDaniel?
I got a Capone 4 pointer cue with ivory inlays! I'll send you the link to it in a PM
skor said:
I agree with you on that, I just said simply OK because I am not playing with Predator anymore. However, the player who bought my STL immedaitely put a 314(2) shaft on it - and he plays lights out with that cue. Last night literally no one could beat him despite that there were a couple of really good shooters.
I don't think that we'll see many Schons at or under 19 oz. because of their laminated handle - that should weigh a bit more. My Schon shaft weighted 4.5 oz and I have never really heard of a schon shaft under 4 oz.
I do not know whether they core their butt sections but if they don't then that should add quite some extra weight to their cues - my cue was built using plenty of ebony.
As for Schon's balance... well, I have never experienced anything balanced better than a Schon - but I am still waiting for my Capone to arrive
)I said that about predator's quality because I am running into more and more defective cues and shafts. For example the Air cues' finish is running off of them and it gets dinged very easily - I do not have one because even those player's cues get dinged who show extreme care to their equipment. My friend's only 6 months old BLAK-3 started to buzz in a way that you wouldn't expect from a $100 Scorpion cue. And I could go on...
I am pretty sad having to face all this as I loved my Predator 5k2 very much.
However I could feel - for some reason - that my Schon was constructed much much better than that BLAK-3 or any other production cue in the pool hall I am playing at.
It is good to see you here, skor! How's your McDaniel?
poohkiller said:
Mine is 113 grams which is 3.985 oz
But since I mostly shoot with a Predator shaft then as long as the butt is under 15 oz it'll be lovely.....
As soon as I'll find an STL9 in that weight I'll grab it.
poohkiller said:It is good to see you here, skor! How's your McDaniel?
It's resting..... I hardly take it out these days.
I've been rotating between the Schon and the Jacoby and as of late I've downgraded my self to a Lucasi.... but you know what, it shoots great with the Z-2 shaft on it and I really like the way it looks...
wadds said:
I happen to have all the cues you mentioned. I just got my Schon Tuesday and been playing with it every night. Compared to the Jacoby, Joss and McDermott, you'll notice a very different hit. The Schon comes with a very hard tip and you'll notice it immediately. The Joss and McDermott should have Triangles. The Jacoby probably has an Everest. So, unless you get the same tip all around, you may have a hard time comparing. The Joss plays the closest to the Schon (balanced close to the same). The Joss is a really nice hitting cue.
My over-all review so far of the Schon is that it is a very good balanced cue. It feels good in my hands. It has a hard hit. But last night it all clicked. I guess I got use to the hit because it was playing very nice. The hard hit didn't seem to be too bad. I even put on the OB-1 and it played well and balanced out good (much softer hit). I tried the Joss shaft on the Schon and it felt nice too (I think it was the tip difference here). The only problem I'm having now is the draw. I cannot seem to draw the Schon with the Schon shaft and tip. I have no problem with the OB-1 shaft on the Schon (draws too good) so it must be the shaft or tip. Still working on that one.
The Schon is nice, but if I had it to do all over, I'd play with my Joss and save the money.
JED
Schons with the Ivory ferrules play great!
A bit more deflection, but the hit is excellent. Like someone else on this forum said, ivory ferrules play LIVE! Much more feedback than the mushy Predator ferrules. I think Evan Clarke has got steel jointed cues down to a tee, the balance is perfect and the butt diameter just right
A bit more deflection, but the hit is excellent. Like someone else on this forum said, ivory ferrules play LIVE!
Much more feedback than the mushy Predator ferrules. I think Evan Clarke has got steel jointed cues down to a tee, the balance is perfect and the butt diameter just right
Hey JED,
The Schon strong tapper and hard tip makes it a bit harder to draw the ball, it requires a better stroke to get the job done, not a bad idea to keep on using the Schon in order to develop your stroke....
I've had a Joss as well and sold it after a week...
I tested both the Schon and the Joss with the same shafts (and tips), with a Predator and an OB-1, in both cases I liked the feel of the Schon better, it felt more solid.
The construction of the Schon with its laminated handle provides a unique hit that has been praised by so many players.
I see you have a Jacoby as well, I can really recommend Jacoby to everyone who is looking for a great player that constructed very well and also looks good, it has a nice solid hit only a bit softer then the Schon, mainly because the SS joint is not full on the Jacoby but only a sleeve over the wood so there is some wood contact with the shaft.
The Schon strong tapper and hard tip makes it a bit harder to draw the ball, it requires a better stroke to get the job done, not a bad idea to keep on using the Schon in order to develop your stroke....
I've had a Joss as well and sold it after a week...
I tested both the Schon and the Joss with the same shafts (and tips), with a Predator and an OB-1, in both cases I liked the feel of the Schon better, it felt more solid.
The construction of the Schon with its laminated handle provides a unique hit that has been praised by so many players.
I see you have a Jacoby as well, I can really recommend Jacoby to everyone who is looking for a great player that constructed very well and also looks good, it has a nice solid hit only a bit softer then the Schon, mainly because the SS joint is not full on the Jacoby but only a sleeve over the wood so there is some wood contact with the shaft.