Secret To This Shot........

skins said:
one more time....... you can't do it. when are you guys gonna learn:confused:

The trick shot artist also said that the reason it's a sucker's shot is that he knows he can make it. He pots the 5 and also gets shape on and makes the 6. That's the trap; he knows he can do it. Only problem is he says it's a 5 or 10 percent proposition, where he loses 90% of the time. He says that's how you go broke....

Flex
 
NineBallNut said:
Lol how do you define "frozen", because your telling me I don't know what a frozen ball is so by all means enlighten me so I can set the shot up correctly

you did not have both balls frozen to the rail ie. touching the rail. the position can only be made if one of the balls is off the rail even very slightly because of friction physics, gravity and inertia.

take the bet. i'll even give 10 try's. deal? i'll be at the us open next month come there and i'll enlighten you and take your money.
 
Flex said:
The trick shot artist also said that the reason it's a sucker's shot is that he knows he can make it. He pots the 5 and also gets shape on and makes the 6. That's the trap; he knows he can do it. Only problem is he says it's a 5 or 10 percent proposition, where he loses 90% of the time. He says that's how you go broke....

Flex

i'll give him 20 try's. that's 5%. have him see me at the us open.
 
skins said:
you did not have both balls frozen to the rail ie. touching the rail. the position can only be made if one of the balls is off the rail even very slightly because of friction physics, gravity and inertia.

take the bet. i'll even give 10 try's. deal? i'll be at the us open next month come there and i'll enlighten you and take your money.

I don't like to argue but you are very arrogant in thinking that I don't know how to make a damn ball freeze against a rail and try a shot. It is obvious that untill someone comes to you and sets this shot up and makes it that you will continue to be bull headed about it. I would think that a player that has played for twenty eight years would be a little more open minded. That's just my 2 cents and that is the last thing I will say because your only response is come and bet it up, which I have no possibility to do. I'm sure you could beat me playing pool so it is a mute point for me to argue... good day sir.
 
Flex said:
The trick shot artist also said that the reason it's a sucker's shot is that he knows he can make it. He pots the 5 and also gets shape on and makes the 6. That's the trap; he knows he can do it. Only problem is he says it's a 5 or 10 percent proposition, where he loses 90% of the time. He says that's how you go broke....

Flex

Hey, Flex. I'm just curious if the trick shot artist you're speaking to is Jamison. If so, I would think he'd want to take a few whacks at it; not at 5 to 1, but maybe at 10 to 1. I'm not really into the whole trick shot thing, but I was pretty impressed with a couple of the "impossible" shots Jamison showed me. When I think back on all of the crazy sh*t I've seen on a pool table, I'm reluctant to call any shot impossible, lol.
 
skins said:
i'll give him 20 try's. that's 5%. have him see me at the us open.

For some reason, I don't think he's interested. You know how some people are.

Flex
 
skins said:
i'll give him 20 try's. that's 5%. have him see me at the us open.

Question.

IF, by some small chance, someone gets with you and takes you up on this proposition bet, and beats you, will you come back to the message board and admit that you were a sucker for assuming you knew more than the guy that actually knows how to make the shot?

And to all the others here, no reason for you to risk the shot yourselves. If he puts up at least a grand and gives them five chances, a lot of the pros at the Open will gladly practice this shot for an hour or two on the Open equipment and rob him. I would think all you would have to do is freeze up the bet and tell skins you'll be back in two hours with a player.

Russ
 
NineBallNut said:
I don't like to argue but you are very arrogant in thinking that I don't know how to make a damn ball freeze against a rail and try a shot. It is obvious that untill someone comes to you and sets this shot up and makes it that you will continue to be bull headed about it. I would think that a player that has played for twenty eight years would be a little more open minded. That's just my 2 cents and that is the last thing I will say because your only response is come and bet it up, which I have no possibility to do. I'm sure you could beat me playing pool so it is a mute point for me to argue... good day sir.

i'm not arrogant at all. would you call your teachers in school that? i was trying to teach some players something about physics and pool and they were the ones who came at the "teacher" and called me wrong. i've proved i'm right because no one will take me up on this bet including a top trickshot artist and the one who is calling me arrogant. look i have no hard feeling and i am just pushing your buttons but i'm tell you just like i said before this position when setup correctly is a 99.99% quack. if i've offended you i apologize but it still can't be done.:D
 
Aaron_S said:
Hey, Flex. I'm just curious if the trick shot artist you're speaking to is Jamison. If so, I would think he'd want to take a few whacks at it; not at 5 to 1, but maybe at 10 to 1. I'm not really into the whole trick shot thing, but I was pretty impressed with a couple of the "impossible" shots Jamison showed me. When I think back on all of the crazy sh*t I've seen on a pool table, I'm reluctant to call any shot impossible, lol.

Nope, not Jamison. Perhaps he'd like to take Skins up on his bet?

Flex
 
Russ Chewning said:
Question.

IF, by some small chance, someone gets with you and takes you up on this proposition bet, and beats you, will you come back to the message board and admit that you were a sucker for assuming you knew more than the guy that actually knows how to make the shot?

And to all the others here, no reason for you to risk the shot yourselves. If he puts up at least a grand and gives them five chances, a lot of the pros at the Open will gladly practice this shot for an hour or two on the Open equipment and rob him. I would think all you would have to do is freeze up the bet and tell skins you'll be back in two hours with a player.

Russ

to answer your first ? yes to respond to your second.... i'll be at the u.s. open. for you russ correct me if i'm wrong but didn't you say "I've made the shot we've been discussing, position and all. So I know what I am talking about." i'll give you 30 tries to make the ball and get draw position on the six in the corner. the offer stands.
 
Flex said:
Nope, not Jamison. Perhaps he'd like to take Skins up on his bet?

Flex

call him and i would not be surprised at all if he says the same thing i've been saying. isn't this fun. ;) :D
 
skins said:
to answer your first ? yes to respond to your second.... i'll be at the u.s. open. for you russ correct me if i'm wrong but didn't you say "I've made the shot we've been discussing, position and all. So I know what I am talking about." i'll give you 30 tries to make the ball and get draw position on the six in the corner. the offer stands.

And at 30 to 1 I'd rob you all day long. I have absolutely no doubt on that. I know how to make this shot, I used to practice it. You don't know how to make the shot, you call it impossible. I think that anyone that says a shot is impossible is arrogant. Even top level pros get shown shots they had no idea could be made. I don't have the option to be at the U.S. Open, though. If I can get a commitment for one of the top players to try you out on this, (with a trustworthy person to hold my money) I will put in at least a grand on a side bet. In fact, if you'll give 10 to 1 on the money and bring at least 20,000, I'll let you bet per shot, with max tries at 10, or when you go broke, whichever comes first.

Russ
 
skins said:
not with both balls frozen to the rail. you've never made this position shot. it can't be done period. case closed
I've got it on video. I'll upload it tonight at work. I made it 4 out of 5 times. I have dialup at home and it'll take forever. I must admit that when you pull the cue ball back further away from the object ball, the shot becomes impossible. At least for me anyway. Here is the position of the balls:
 

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Hal said:
I've got it on video. I'll upload it tonight at work. I made it 4 out of 5 times. I have dialup at home and it'll take forever. I must admit that when you pull the cue ball back further away from the object ball, the shot becomes impossible. At least for me anyway.

Dude!! Yer queering my action here!

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
And at 30 to 1 I'd rob you all day long. I have absolutely no doubt on that. I know how to make this shot, I used to practice it. You don't know how to make the shot, you call it impossible. I think that anyone that says a shot is impossible is arrogant. Even top level pros get shown shots they had no idea could be made. I don't have the option to be at the U.S. Open, though. If I can get a commitment for one of the top players to try you out on this, (with a trustworthy person to hold my money) I will put in at least a grand on a side bet. In fact, if you'll give 10 to 1 on the money and bring at least 20,000, I'll let you bet per shot, with max tries at 10, or when you go broke, whichever comes first.

Russ

come on russ. get smart. just so we're clear on this i never said the "shot" can't be made. i said the shot cant be made with draw to get position behind the six to make the ball in the same side opposite corner pocket. do you still want to "rob" me because i'm in northwest indiana and since you have such a great chance of "robbing" me you wouldn't mind the 5 hour drive to make bank right. i'll bet you 2 to 1 . let me know when you want to do it.
 
Hal said:
I've got it on video. I'll upload it tonight at work. I made it 4 out of 5 times. I have dialup at home and it'll take forever. I must admit that when you pull the cue ball back further away from the object ball, the shot becomes impossible. At least for me anyway. Here is the position of the balls:

let me set it up hal and i'll bet you 2 to 1 10 try's. when would you like to do this? this is fun. :D
 
Russ Chewning said:
Dude!! Yer queering my action here!

Russ

see ya know what the worst part of this is. you and some others posting here prove i'm right because i've already put my self out there and no one will take the bet. if it's such great action and you really are a player you'ld be here in a heartbeat. when will that be?
 
skins said:
come on russ. get smart. just so we're clear on this i never said the "shot" can't be made. i said the shot cant be made with draw to get position behind the six to make the ball in the same side opposite corner pocket. do you still want to "rob" me because i'm in northwest indiana and since you have such a great chance of "robbing" me you wouldn't mind the 5 hour drive to make bank right. i'll bet you 2 to 1 . let me know when you want to do it.

Haw haw haw!!! You said it's a 99% MISS, but now somehow, yer only willing to give 2 to 1 on the money? If you believe your probabilities, you should still make money giving 50 to 1 on the money. With only 2 to 1 on the money per try, yer requiring a 50% make percentage to get yer money.

Put up some money odds in line with what YOU think the make percentage is. And please quit woofing at me. I already told you I am in Iraq for at least 2 years. If what you said is correct about you appreciating my sacrifice, quit making me look like I am dodging you.

What I AM saying is I will definitely back a pro to try you out, assuming you make the money worth it. If you are saying 2 to 1 on the money per each 10 try bet, then you got it. If yer talking about 2 to 1 per actual try, that would be suicide for me to take.

Russ
 
I don't need or want your money and I'm not interested in arguing with you.

I'll post the video tonight. You will clearly see that I "roll" the balls against the rail with my cue in order to freeze them to the rail. I have to go to bed now.
 
Hal said:
I don't need or want your money and I'm not interested in arguing with you.

I'll post the video tonight. You will clearly see that I "roll" the balls against the rail with my cue in order to freeze them to the rail. I have to go to bed now.


hal, i don't care what you do with your cue i know different. you can post any video you wan't that don't prove a thing. no video can prove both balls are frozen and that the rails are straight which by the way is the only way iv'e seen this shot even done close and even then it was still a disaster. the bet stands
 
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