Secret To This Shot........
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skins said:
...well for your information I am not a liar and never have been. I made it with perfect shape and I made SURE the balls were frozen.
skins said:
How do you figure no takers? I saw at least 2 people say they'll get someone to rob you. Just make sure you bring your bankroll to the U.S. Open. I'm sure someone will tag a pro to show you how to shoot this shot, since you are bound and determined to pay to learn it.
Other people would be satisfied with believing people who say they can make it, and asking them how to do it, or to show it on video, but not you, you're MUCH too smart for that.
Russ
Somebody needs to get with skins at the Open. Anyone who knws the shot can be made. Just grab any of the good pros, they'll do it for a cut of the profits.
Here is the video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6C3dem2CZg
I think you have to wait a few minutes. It says it hasn't been processed yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6C3dem2CZg
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Skins, you say it can't be done with position, then you say it's a 99.99% quack(whatever that means). Lets see, that's 1 in a thousand right. So you admit it's possible, although highly unlikely, but yet you can't bring yourself to believe at least one of the posters that said they HAVE done it. A lot of the posters in this thread probably have tried it, and i bet the total is more than 1,000 times.
I didn't post in this thread until i tried the shot, I thought it would only be fair. I know this shot is tough, but not impossible, especially on a loose table.
Maybe making the shot was 1 in 146,107,962 chance, but it went in, and it was set up correctly. Besides someone has to win powerball sometime right?
Rodney
I didn't post in this thread until i tried the shot, I thought it would only be fair. I know this shot is tough, but not impossible, especially on a loose table.
Maybe making the shot was 1 in 146,107,962 chance, but it went in, and it was set up correctly. Besides someone has to win powerball sometime right?
Rodney
Hal said:
let me set the posters shot up and take my bet than. i gaurantee your rails are either not straight or one or both of the balls is not frozen to the rail. i have many spots on my table where i can "rake" the balls on the rail and the ball comes off just enough to make your " shorter" shot your doing. heck i even did it twice raking the balls like you did. let me set it up and we can put this to rest once and for all. take my bet
LMFAO!!!! Go get'em Hal.
What the hell are you even talking about Skins? You just saw the shot made on video dude and you are still wanting to bet him. Thats like someone saying to me I bet you cant jump up and down. Now I know I CAN jump up and down but why would this guy want to still bet me I couldn't. Suggestion to all posters....DO NOT BET THIS MAN! Something is up his sleave like I suggested earlier. He probably wets the object ball or some shit and if he don't have a trick he will not pay due to "faulty" equipment. Your right Skins...it is a bet for suckers.
What the hell are you even talking about Skins? You just saw the shot made on video dude and you are still wanting to bet him. Thats like someone saying to me I bet you cant jump up and down. Now I know I CAN jump up and down but why would this guy want to still bet me I couldn't. Suggestion to all posters....DO NOT BET THIS MAN! Something is up his sleave like I suggested earlier. He probably wets the object ball or some shit and if he don't have a trick he will not pay due to "faulty" equipment. Your right Skins...it is a bet for suckers.
skins said:
Skins,
This thread is starting to disturb me. This is the ultimate in self delusionment. A number of us say we can make the shot. One poster made the shot 4 out 5 times. And you tell him his RAILS AREN"T STRAIGHT? Because he already told you they were froze. And I for one believe he is probably a good enough player to know when a ball is, or is not froze.
And just for your information, the shot is not appreciably easier with one or both balls a milimeter or two off the rail.
And because one has to use outside english on the shot, it actually throws the ball down the rail. The fact that outside must be used actually makes the shot easier, because it reduces friction on the slight cut down the rail. For someone who proclaims to know the physics of the shot you, in fact, do not sir.
I got a real funny feeling you will either not be at the U.S. Open, or you will have had a "sudden change of heart" or other extenuating circumstances by that point. If you were planning on doing something shady when setting this shot up for your bettor, you ought to know that they aren't gonna be dumb enough to let you get away with it.
After a day's practice on the equipment at the Open, I would bet all day lon I could make it 3 out of 10 times. The fact that you are allowing 10 tries to make it ONCE, shows you don't know the shot as well as you think you do.
Russ
You know I just thought of something. Maybe its you Skins who is not setting the shot up right. Do you like to tap the object ball with another ball to make sure it stays frozen? I bet you do don't you. Or maybe even tap it at an angle into the rail so that the object ball is not only frozen but indented into it a fraction. Whether you purposely do this or not I bet this is what you do to make sure their frozen eh? You shouldn't tap balls dude. Even when racking. You can give them a "push" down but don't be a tapper.
Harvywallbanger said:You know I just thought of something. Maybe its you Skins who is not setting the shot up right. Do you like to tap the object ball with another ball to make sure it stays frozen? I bet you do don't you. Or maybe even tap it at an angle into the rail so that the object ball is not only frozen but indented into it a fraction. Whether you purposely do this or not I bet this is what you do to make sure their frozen eh? You shouldn't tap balls dude. Even when racking. You can give them a "push" down but don't be a tapper.
then find someone to take my bet. i use my hand to set the balls no trickery. there is a reason hal won't even take the bet and it's not cause he don't want my money. it's because as i've always stated this position shot, the way the poster said, set up with balls trully "frozen" to the rail is a 99.99% loss of your bet. i'm waiting to be proven wrong. any takers? my pm box is empty
skins said:
well whatever. I am a very particular person and I made sure they were frozen when I shot it and I even eyed the rail to make sure it was straight. Granted it was a barbox but....I don't know. What makes you think you are going to be performing this shot on 100% perfect equipement to begin with even if you are right. I mean hell its starting to sound like the table has to be put under a micro-scope, the balls have to be waxed, all chalk residue has to be cleaned from the felt, it can't be raining outside due to humidity, the temperature has to be 79 degrees, and if all that is perfect than science says the shot is impossible. I'm not ragging on you but you better re-think your offer before betting this shot anywhere. You may be right even. But no equipment is perfect. Even a tape measure is off from one to the next just the slightest. On PERFECT equipment maybe science doesn't permit this shot. But like I said you better re-think your bet because NO table on earth is PERFECT to the kilter.
Harvywallbanger said:
listen harvey, i know this is becoming a little more than anyone expected but i said from the beginning that the shot the way the poster described is a 99.99% quack. i stand by that. if the distance of the shot is the same and the balls are truly frozen this shot/position is virtually impossible and i'm willing to bet on it. as far as the equipment all i would need is a 9' table with standard cloth, straight rails, normal pockets, normal balls and the chance to set the shot up so i know the criteria for the shot is as described in the original post that's all and the bet would stand. hal's shot does not fit the criteria because as i said his shot is shorter and no one but him knows, and maybe not even him, if the rails are straight, the balls are frozen or even if the cue ball is lighter than the object ball (hal i'm truly not inferring that your cheating) which would make the shot an easy draw. i will stand by my knowledge and am ready to take the brunt of my stance.
skins said:
...well OK. You are standing strong so I will give you credit for that. What about if the shot is performed on Simonis cloth that is cleaned with pledge once in a while. Alot of room owners do this and it makes the cloth super fast. Anyways good luck. And just because I am nosey what is your playing speed? c- b- a- semi pro- pro? You said you play alot and people know you. After all this I think I'm entitled to know.
Harvywallbanger said:...well OK. You are standing strong so I will give you credit for that. What about if the shot is performed on Simonis cloth that is cleaned with pledge once in a while. Alot of room owners do this and it makes the cloth super fast. Anyways good luck. And just because I am nosey what is your playing speed? c- b- a- semi pro- pro? You said you play alot and people know you. After all this I think I'm entitled to know.
the shot's problem is physics related not cloth related. as long as this position shot is set up correctly it's virtually impossible to perform. as far as my playing ability i'm an A speed now. don't play to many tournaments nor do the "g" word anymore ( which is how i got my "skins" handle. i would play for big "skins" per game). i toured locally around chitown and the surrounding states from 87' til 92' and was a stronger player then but i married and chose music and design instead. i still play pretty well and i'm sure i'll find something at the open, ya know anonymity in some things is the key to success. but after this thread it could be either really good or a chance for me to see the inside bottom of a bucket.
