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Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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IMO if you can hit the aim point on the OB it's going in the pocket no matter how you get there...even standing on your head. I think most players (myself included) wanting to run more balls/ miss less should practice as much or more on position play as they do shotmaking. Like some great player said years ago, "if you play pinpoint position you will rarely have a hard shot". Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
IMO if you can hit the aim point on the OB it's going in the pocket no matter how you get there...even standing on your head. I think most players (myself included) wanting to run more balls/ miss less should practice as much or more on position play as they do shotmaking. Like some great player said years ago, "if you play pinpoint position you will rarely have a hard shot". Johnnyt
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Nothing could be more true, and I doubt you will get any disagreement!!

Thanks great post.
 
manwon said:
Nothing could be more true, and I doubt you will get any disagreement!!

Thanks great post.
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This is a great post and very true indeed. As long as you hit the correct contact point the ball is going in the hole. It does not matter where you use an aiming system or not.......some people are just better at aiming. But as you stated Johnny if you play great position you can have easier shots and more choices. The best aiming system you can find is on youtube.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q4jEPmHFa8 its called put it in the hole lol
 
you can actually approach things backwards

Johnnyt said:
IMO if you can hit the aim point on the OB it's going in the pocket no matter how you get there...even standing on your head. I think most players (myself included) wanting to run more balls/ miss less should practice as much or more on position play as they do shotmaking. Like some great player said years ago, "if you play pinpoint position you will rarely have a hard shot". Johnnyt
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As a general statement it is harder to do what you need to do with the cue ball than it is to pocket a ball. If anyone focuses solely on cue ball control their total game will soar. You have to pocket balls too but when you can control the cue ball pocketing balls is easy; easy in comparison, easy in actual practice.

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That may have been Buddy Hall that said that. Not sure. One quote from Buddy that I just loved was "If you have position don't play position" I know that sounds extra simple but if you really think about some of the stuff you see on pool tables all over the world it really does make a lot of sense. Think about your own game too. When you're looking at a shot think to yourself, can I stop right here and make this next ball or do I actually need to take that 2 rail route to it that I was thinking about. That one was a huge one for me. Unfortunately I posted that here a long time ago and got a bunch of "Duh!" replies to it. hehe!! I still think it's great advice that goes a long way.
MULLY
 
Johnnyt said:
IMO if you can hit the aim point on the OB it's going in the pocket no matter how you get there...even standing on your head. I think most players (myself included) wanting to run more balls/ miss less should practice as much or more on position play as they do shotmaking. Like some great player said years ago, "if you play pinpoint position you will rarely have a hard shot". Johnnyt
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YUP, that's what i'm talkin about.

KISS is really where it's at + playing 3 balls ahead in our positional patterns

The first thing i noticed when i played "champions" was how they didn't make many "hard" shots
 
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Please!
We need more aiming threads.
No cueball control threads please.
That should be in the NAR ( non-aiming related ) section.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Please!
We need more aiming threads.
No cueball control threads please.
That should be in the NAR ( non-aiming related ) section.
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You're right Joey. Practicing and becoming good at position/QB control is too much like work for the instant grad generation. What was I thinking.:eek: Johnnyt
 
I've said it before on here. Great QB control is what keep players like Earl, Efren, Parica, and others in the game as they get up in age and can't come with those long 8 and a half foot shots as often as they use too. If you think about it or keep track of what stops a run playing the ghost most often it will be very bad position on the ball=no or very hard long shot or QB behind a ball. Position is huge. Johnnyt
 
Most of the time you do not need pinpoint position. You just need to get into a favourable area of the table where the shot can be made.

First determine where the shot cannot be made and then make sure what you are doing won't take you there.:D

One of the great pleasures in snooker is the superiority you feel watching your opponent make a colour only to leave the cue ball snookered when the ball is placed back on the table.:D:D:D
 
Scaramouche said:
Most of the time you do not need pinpoint position. You just need to get into a favourable area of the table where the shot can be made.

First determine where the shot cannot be made and then make sure what you are doing won't take you there.:D

One of the great pleasures in snooker is the superiority you feel watching your opponent make a colour only to leave the cue ball snookered when the ball is placed back on the table.:D:D:D
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Just get the jump-cue out.:D. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
IMO if you can hit the aim point on the OB it's going in the pocket no matter how you get there...even standing on your head. I think most players (myself included) wanting to run more balls/ miss less should practice as much or more on position play as they do shotmaking. Like some great player said years ago, "if you play pinpoint position you will rarely have a hard shot". Johnnyt
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So no aiming system will work perfect if you can't hit the aim point, AMEN!:wink:
 
I must insist that this thread be moved. It is blatantly NASR.
The nerve of some people. The unmitigated gaul. How dare someone expound the notion that a pool player could simply walk up behind a shot, pick a contact point on the object ball, hit said contact point with a cue ball, and expect it to go into a pocket, is beyond me. It's blasphemy, I say.
Anyone with the correct amout of DNA sequencing knows that an Aiming system must be employed in order to pocket balls and the proper amount of time be set aside to practice this system. Five minutes a day and preferably right after your seven-minute ab workout, should be sufficient to accomplish your goal. If this schedule cannot be met due to time contraints from soccer practice, yoga classes, and so on, then self-hypnosis cd's are highly recommended.
I sincerely hope that a moderator will correct this agreagious situation as soon as possible. Thank you.
 
Johnnyt said:
IMO if you can hit the aim point on the OB it's going in the pocket no matter how you get there...even standing on your head. I think most players (myself included) wanting to run more balls/ miss less should practice as much or more on position play as they do shotmaking. Like some great player said years ago, "if you play pinpoint position you will rarely have a hard shot". Johnnyt
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I agree completely...but, where is that aim point for all cut angles at all distances....does it move?
 
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Lamas,
What Johnnyt said is right, all what was said in the subsequent posts again right and what you said is again, right.

Perception of the contact point is the key. Correct placement of the ghost essential.

How you come to all of that is what determines your success the conundrum for most people is consistency doing what they do and completion of correct hit point placement. The easy angles well they are easy, the hard ones well more difficult. If they didnt exist neither would this thread just as you suggest, doesnt the contact point move? If no one misses a shot because "hey its just the contact point" and that is so easy then there shouldnt be any conversation about consistency. I have yet to be able to pocket a shot with my stellar cue ball control alone. Somewhere first I have to know how the shot is going to get there. Then I might have a chance to apply the cue ball control I have.Its not enough to align yourself with proponents of any one brand of thinking if you cant get past a skill level and blame it on the aiming system guys which Im not. Everything I do is based on Natural things. At some point you need to figure out what youre doing, how you are doing it and be able to repeat it. A game built entirely on feel is a great thing if you play often. If you can see what you see based on a consistent clue that feeds you information then maybe you need not live on a pool table when not at work and still get better. I dont do well with CTE and dont use it but I have found technical clues that keep me on track and let me concentrate the feel I have to more smaller manageable areas. No system exists that is perfect but the feel is when perfectly aligned and you are looking at a much smaller area to deal with, and you feel good, had rest, have a straight stroke and great fundamentals, stance etc. Its all a part of it all. No one side of it stands out more than aim. That is just a natural fact. If you cant make the shot well its not your turn anymore.

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336robin
 
With me I have worked on ball pocketing for a long time now,just because I thought my position play was not a problem.But what I have found recently is just because I understand the physics(throw,rails,transfer etc...)and have a pretty strong stroke does not mean I am playing the patterns correctly,or for that matter concentrating on center ball patterns that I think are the key to consistent run outs.Watching pros run out without extreme spin and keeping with the correct angle is what I am putting my focus on now
 
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Petey,
I understand exactly where you are. A friend recently showed me something with my game that helped me and it had more to do with not moving the ball any more than I needed to. It seems to me that by doing that for awhile I was able to better understand when I really needed a stroke shot and when I did I better understood just how hard to hit it too.


336robin :thumbup:
 
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