Self-Proclaimed Open Level Shooters
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Can you point to some of these posts? It's not that I dont' believe you, because after being on the internet forums for over 10 years now, I've read a lot of hints and innuendos knowing full well that the poster wasn't as good as they were writing.MBTaylor said:
But, I'm not an open player. I'm not an A player. At my best, I was a BB player. Today, I'd say I'm playing about at a C+ level. And as long as I don't play much, I should be about a D come next summer.
Fred
MBTaylor said:
Without names this thread is useless.
How can you come on here and call people out but not name names?????
Jude Rosenstock said:
amsterdam's one of the more competitive leagues but it's handicapped and it's only as good as the other players in it. while being an open in any league is an achievement it's still just a league ranking.
for example, i was an apa 6 but then i get out to vegas and i'm really like an apa 4. i was only a 6 cause the league was weak but nationally i'm closer 4.
i thought the definition of an open level player is someone who's competitive in an open competition. how have you done in open competition? have you cashed in the predator 9-ball tour? what about the blaze? the joss? these are all local open tourneys without a handicap.
how have you matched up with other open players - like some of the people at masters?
just curious.
Is it just me?
After following this thread for a couple of days now, I can not believe that the op does not understand that there is no "open player" classification.
The term open in all sports simply means amateurs and pros and everyone in between are eligible to participate.
Hence the term open.
M.C.
(I'm a can't c player)
After following this thread for a couple of days now, I can not believe that the op does not understand that there is no "open player" classification.
The term open in all sports simply means amateurs and pros and everyone in between are eligible to participate.
Hence the term open.
M.C.
(I'm a can't c player)
crawfish said:
I now know enough to stay away from him if he is in the same poolroom.
I never find it necessary to say how great I do or do not play, those interested in my skill level can come watch, and make up their own mind as to my personal skill level.
curlyscues said:
I define open class in pool as someone who not only competes in open events, but is capable of winning regional open events with pros in the field. See blaze, tiger, jossnortheast, predator, viking tours. These players will also cash a majority of the time. You are correct though there is no official definition. That is why many people get confused/aggrivated.
I win local open events all the time, I am by no means an open player.
curlyscues said:
Actually in our BCA league at Amsterdam, there is an actual Open player classification as well as an Open+ level thats right below Pro. And in many of the tournaments in NY there is an Open level player classification.
JoeyA said:Now we know who Travis Trotter is.
Shame on your for beating Pops.
JoeyA
Damn, I logged in on the wrong account...
Regards,
Walt Frazier
i guess i'm a little old so you may have to forgive me the fact that i am not always aware or fond of the fact that someone or some organizationpoolmonkey said:
is in the process of reinventing the definition of some words.
I was always under the impression that open meant open. Now if it said modified open i might understand. i would scratch my head, but i would understand.
M.C. ..........from the backward state of michigan
Everyone's a Champion
We run into this on the shooting forum; everyone who posts is a world beater.
The difference is, over there, in the main shooting games there's an objective way to rate shooters. We don't say Open (That's an equipment division not a skill level) instead we say D,C,B,A, Master, and Grand Master.
You can't just "decide" you are, you have to earn it.
It's not about "paying dues" or time in, it's simply the scores you post.
To give you a frame of reference, you average SWAT or SF Operator is a "B". So when you have a guy TELLING you how things are and you find out he's a "C" who shoots whatever the gun magazines tell him to, you take it with a grain of salt and wait for a more seasoned M or GM to answer your question.
There is no such system in pool. I've been out of it 15 years and can't name 3 of the top 25 guys, unless they were kicking ass in the early 90's.
Top that off with the gamble and pool player attitudes, and behind the internet veil, everyone's a champion.
We run into this on the shooting forum; everyone who posts is a world beater.
The difference is, over there, in the main shooting games there's an objective way to rate shooters. We don't say Open (That's an equipment division not a skill level) instead we say D,C,B,A, Master, and Grand Master.
You can't just "decide" you are, you have to earn it.
It's not about "paying dues" or time in, it's simply the scores you post.
To give you a frame of reference, you average SWAT or SF Operator is a "B". So when you have a guy TELLING you how things are and you find out he's a "C" who shoots whatever the gun magazines tell him to, you take it with a grain of salt and wait for a more seasoned M or GM to answer your question.
There is no such system in pool. I've been out of it 15 years and can't name 3 of the top 25 guys, unless they were kicking ass in the early 90's.
Top that off with the gamble and pool player attitudes, and behind the internet veil, everyone's a champion.
Maybe a, who have you beat? would have been a better question. When you ask a question on here like this you need a team of lawyers to make sure you leave no outs or loopholes. Anything less is just chumming the waters!
Open in Canada: Not eligible for national amateur events. They base this on past results in the Canadians and probably U.S. pro events. Open should mean you can play with anyone walking in the door. Pro level would be the top guys expected or fav to win pro events.
I am listed as open here in Canada and cannot play in the Canadian 8 and 9 ball amateur events. I have good wins against great players, but I struggle to maintain that level of play.
I practice everyday to close the gap between my higher level of play and my off game. At my current level, I have all the shots, just not all the time. My main focus now during practice is Shape. I have a bunch of new drills that are working. My goal is to get my "off" game at open speed.
Open in Canada: Not eligible for national amateur events. They base this on past results in the Canadians and probably U.S. pro events. Open should mean you can play with anyone walking in the door. Pro level would be the top guys expected or fav to win pro events.
I am listed as open here in Canada and cannot play in the Canadian 8 and 9 ball amateur events. I have good wins against great players, but I struggle to maintain that level of play.
I practice everyday to close the gap between my higher level of play and my off game. At my current level, I have all the shots, just not all the time. My main focus now during practice is Shape. I have a bunch of new drills that are working. My goal is to get my "off" game at open speed.
dirtypool40 said:
DP,
Small clarification. There is a fairly systematic way to rate pool players; used frequently in Germany, and other parts of Europe: the PAT system. It is designed to build and test pool fundamentals; it is very, very thorough; and in my view meets the requirements to assess a players skill - very objective.
Perhaps we could require all board members to take the test and post their scores (or would the temperature drop from Hell freezing over be too uncomfortable??).
Williebetmore said:
I agree. I also like Allen Hopkin's Cue Skill rating system. If a player runs a few racks of Cue Skill (maybe 10) and averages it, that's the player they are for sure. Very accurate.