Shane learned alot from Earl
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Maybe you should play him some, he may spot you 3 or 4 racks of 10 ball in a race to 11 or so, you should be able to beat him, but make sure you bet lots of money, that way he'll be under even more pressure
I disagree... did you watch a different match than me? Shane seemed to have the give up stroke in the very beginning. You could see it in his body language. But when he made his comeback in the last 5 games, he was playing very well.
He looked pretty loose to me, I thought SVB was doing things right, ball just wasnt dropping all the time. Plus let's face it, SVB got the rolls during the 8 ball set only to get completely horse boned during the one hole and ten ball.
I won money and I can only think of two words "Re Match" lol. I think only thing they proved this weekend is that at that top level no one has to win at anything. Being a "favorite" dont mean shit. A 7 game lead don't mean shit.
I won money and I can only think of two words "Re Match" lol. I think only thing they proved this weekend is that at that top level no one has to win at anything. Being a "favorite" dont mean shit. A 7 game lead don't mean shit.
jerryterry
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who played and for how much?
If he played with that intensity throughout the match things could've been different. This is where Varner was soooooo great. You could have him stuck 10 games and he still came to the table with the same pi$$ & vinegar.....
I agree completely with you.At the beginning I really thought Shane was
dumping,thats how bad it was looking to me.When Dennis hung a ball right in the corner and Shane just stepped up and fired it in and his cueball followed the object ball straight in the corner with it.At that moment I thought''oh no here we go".
It looked really bad to me when Dennis had a straight in ball in the corner
that was facing Shane,and the moment Dennis got down to shoot,Shane
pulled out his cellphone and started texting.
Dennis sort of got him back near the end of the match dropping his cue
while Shane is running out.That might of been a accident but the
cellphone thing,not so much.Good match overall but the feed was awful
and froze up every 45 seconds for the first half of the match.Besides that
the end of match got pretty interesting.
He also learned to leave the cue extension on all the time!!!
Agree. But this is Shane. He does NOT have the constant intensity of a Varner or an Archer. In my banger player status, this is Shane's biggest weakness. We have seen him go on tilt versus the Filipinos many times in TAR matches. He simply does not have the mental toughness in this game to match his stroke. Archer, Varner, Martinez, and all the Filipinos have both.
Don't get me wrong, I think Shane is the only American today who can play anyone in the world. But if his mental toughness was stronger, he'd be a slight notch higher.
Don't think shane was using the cue extension for the 8 ball, don't recall, but it seems since he started using it for the 10ball his shape has suffered a bit. Just me but that's what I noticed. The first time I thought he was using a longer cue was at the 10ball 10 foot at Tunica. Earl may have convinced him!
There were definite signs. The way he flips his hand at every roll, slumps in his chair, shakes his head, literally drags his stick along the ground while walking back to his seat.
I don't think he ever consciously steps to a table and thinks "I don't care where the CB goes or if I make the ball, I'm just gonna whack this one".
...that's the horrible thing about give-up mode. You can know what to do, and how to do it, and you go through the motions... but your body somehow matches your mindset and the shot just doesn't go, the shape is way off, etc.
On one kick he got kind of frustrated and just whacked it at warp speed, with a completely random outcome. Warp speed might make sense in 9 ball but in 10b there's no advantage to it. That looked a lot like a "fᴜck it" stroke to me.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it. That tight makes some shots missable that we expect pros to make. Then when they miss it, it's easy to say "he'd have made that if he were in gear and had the right attitude". But sometimes even pros just plain miss a ball. Dennis' demeanor was great and he missed nothing in the 8 ball sets, but in 10b he missed several towards the end that let shane back into it briefly.
I don't think he ever consciously steps to a table and thinks "I don't care where the CB goes or if I make the ball, I'm just gonna whack this one".
...that's the horrible thing about give-up mode. You can know what to do, and how to do it, and you go through the motions... but your body somehow matches your mindset and the shot just doesn't go, the shape is way off, etc.
On one kick he got kind of frustrated and just whacked it at warp speed, with a completely random outcome. Warp speed might make sense in 9 ball but in 10b there's no advantage to it. That looked a lot like a "fᴜck it" stroke to me.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it. That tight makes some shots missable that we expect pros to make. Then when they miss it, it's easy to say "he'd have made that if he were in gear and had the right attitude". But sometimes even pros just plain miss a ball. Dennis' demeanor was great and he missed nothing in the 8 ball sets, but in 10b he missed several towards the end that let shane back into it briefly.
You might mention that I refunded your money. Before the match ended. Which you evidently were able to finish watching even though the feed was terrible.
My feed was very nice for me. I watched the 8 ball on loop, not live. No lag that I remember.
I watched the 1 pocket on loop. No lag that I remember.
I watched the 10 ball live. I had 3 lags/freeze that I remember the whole match. They were each about 5 seconds long, then the stream resumed.
Overall, the lag/freeze was not an issue for me, but I also realize everyone's system and connection is different, so some may have had a poor stream, while others had an excellent stream. So goes the internet.
I watched the 1 pocket on loop. No lag that I remember.
I watched the 10 ball live. I had 3 lags/freeze that I remember the whole match. They were each about 5 seconds long, then the stream resumed.
Overall, the lag/freeze was not an issue for me, but I also realize everyone's system and connection is different, so some may have had a poor stream, while others had an excellent stream. So goes the internet.
You know, I was thinking the same thing. First time I have seen him with that slumped look, his face really showed that he was not happy with what was happening and that he accepted the loss already. Acting a lot like Earl does with reactions to an open shot the other guy gets and being hooked after the break and such.
oh yeah i had those 4 second lags too but who the f#ck cares? I mean the live feed is better than most of the Accu-stats tapes up til 2000 where u pretty much cant ID any ball. Excellent Video quality now- TAR and Accu-stats both!!
We've come a loooooong way in a pretty short time and it did cost $$ for these guys but they are smart enough to know it pays off in the end.
He did look giveupish a little bit early on. This is what I noticed. But like you mentioned in the end he looked real strong.
Pool is a funny game...
Ok, but Varner never gambled unless he had the 7 ball the best of it...I heard that come straight out of his mouth...He was the greatest nut hunter the World has ever seen...